Use some common sense and stop listening to the scientists? How’s that work? Listen to Right Said Fred instead? Maybe Laurence Fox? Maybe Piers Corbyn? Maybe that ex nurse with a face full of Botox telling us not to inject poison into us? Ooo David Icke?Are we all forgetting among all the hype and fear that some 98.8% of the population are not at risk? The vaccine will not stop you getting covid or stop you spreading it. The vaccine is supposedly to stop you from becoming extremely ill from covid. The mask thing is nonsense and always has been. I do wish people would start using their common sense and stop listening to the media and the scientist who's models have all been proven wrong so far. Covid exist but the biggest danger are the politicians.
How about the ones who say that you should use some common sense and not listen to the scientists?Everyone is allowed their views, the vaccine seems to reduce cases and gives a better chance to those who do catch it, people have concerns with potential issues with the vaccine and shouldn't instantly be dismissed as those anti vax idiots.
We will take ours , probably wear them in the concourse, take them off in our seats .
Best I can do
What a c**t you are. Suggest you log off and think about what you’re saying more
Certainly if you’re Boris.If you put am umbrella up do you still get wet
I think it’s important to understand that when we’re told the vaccine ‘greatly reduces the chances of death’ that is spin based on efficacy figures around 90% based on what brand you have.They reduce the chances of transmission and greatly reduce the chances of hospitalisation and death. To say it only does one of the three isn't true.
I think it’s important to understand that when we’re told the vaccine ‘greatly reduces the chances of death’ that is spin based on efficacy figures around 90% based on what brand you have.
However, these are relative risk reduction figures (RRR) that should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID.
Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs.
For example the average risk of death from COVID is 0.006%, (pretty much nothing) so having a jab will reduce that risk to 0.004% - When the original risk is very little, this is pretty far from ‘great’.
If you want to be cautious (which is perfectly fine) then that’s a good way of playing it and exactly what I did for the Wembley games of the Euros. It was only in the concourse areas and coming through the turnstiles where it felt like it was necessary to wear my mask due the sheer volume of people crammed together sneaking through the gate.
I will probably do the same for the first game back.
Are you referring to the 1,400+ people who have died in this country alone as a result of an adverse reaction to the jab.Being flippant about people who died is a c*nt, doesn’t matter what beliefs you hold
Are you referring to the 1,400+ people who have died in this country alone as a result of an adverse reaction to the jab.
That’s a government figure from the MHRA btw. Our government also say that the reporting system is underreported by 90%.
It is sad very sad and disturbing.
Don’t be ignorant, it’s not a theory.I find you very sad and disturbing tbh with your crackpot junk science conspiracy theory weirdo bullshit, but it’s your view so you & this ‘paxman’ carry on, knock yourselves out with it all.
Are you referring to the 1,400+ people who have died in this country alone as a result of an adverse reaction to the jab.
That’s a government figure from the MHRA btw. Our government also say that the reporting system is underreported by 90%.
It is sad very sad and disturbing.
Isn’t that the amount of people that have died within a month of having the vaccine rather than died of the vaccine?Are you referring to the 1,400+ people who have died in this country alone as a result of an adverse reaction to the jab.
That’s a government figure from the MHRA btw. Our government also say that the reporting system is underreported by 90%.
It is sad very sad and disturbing.
These are government figures. Do you not believe your government or is it only when Boris is talking to you through your telly box?What is sad and disturbing is people like you believing bullshit on the internet that misinterprets the figures because you have so little going on as a person that you need to be different about something to try and feel special
No, these are figures from adverse reactions and the reaction causing death.Isn’t that the amount of people that have died within a month of having the vaccine rather than died of the vaccine?
I think you’re misreading what the MHRA has said.No, these are figures from adverse reactions and the reaction causing death.
How about the ones who say that you should use some common sense and not listen to the scientists?
These are government figures. Do you not believe your government or is it only when Boris is talking to you through your telly box?
All the evidence is there, plain stats and figures. No theories whatsoever.
Don’t be ignorant, it’s not a theory.
Here’s a link to the source report DEFINE_ME
Maybe you’d believe it if you saw it on Newsround.
They don't. They advise and the government makes the decision.they shouldn't have the power to do it dictate policy and force lockdowns.
Full fact! Seriously! Hardly impartial. I wouldn’t outsource my thinking to a company that is basically funded by Facebook. Just look at there donations - no theory.I think you’re misreading what the MHRA has said.
1,102 people haven’t died ‘of’ the Covid-19 vaccine - Full Fact
This is how many people have died a short period after getting vaccinated.fullfact.org
And that's a tragedy. But did you know him well?
Full fact! Seriously! Hardly impartial. I wouldn’t outsource my thinking to a company that is basically funded by Facebook. Just look at there donations - no theory.
These people are few in number though. The crazies shouting about 5G and nanobots are a sideshow.
There are, however, many legitimate views that don't get a proper airing and that isn't healthy.
There are many that fully acknowledge the realities of Covid as a serious disease and see the suffering it has caused, but who question the reponse to it. A virologist advising the government on the disease itself and recommending measures to control it is fine, they are experts, but what they shouldn't have the power to do it dictate policy and force lockdowns. These measures have serious real world consequences that the scientists calling for them don't understand, because here, they're not experts.
Lockdowns can force people into severe economic hardship with health implications. They cause cancer screenings to be missed and treatments cancelled. People don't present to their GP when ill. Obesity has soared and there is a huge health crisis looming as a direct result of lockdown itself. There is increased substance abuse, domestic abuse and mental health issues. Many will die, and many from younger age groups. The debate about lockdown was not just about how many die, it was also about who dies. In the end, it wasn't really much of a debate at all.
The human cost has been huge and simply asking for these factors to be considered when deciding policy was perfectly legitimate, but many people were shouted down and silenced and lumped in with the 5G moonbats.
Anyhow, we have the vaccine, let's all hope we can emerge from this and move on.
Friggin hell, just spent a couple of hours on YouTube.
Beat me to that one!Always trust the academic opinion of a guy who can’t spell their.
It’s run by Tory donors isn’t it. Besides, the point stands. It’s people who have died a month after the vaccine not died from the vaccine. Full fact are quoting the MHRA that you pointed to as your source.Full fact! Seriously! Hardly impartial. I wouldn’t outsource my thinking to a company that is basically funded by Facebook. Just look at there donations - no theory.
Full fact! Seriously! Hardly impartial. I wouldn’t outsource my thinking to a company that is basically funded by Facebook. Just look at there donations - no theory.
wearing a mask means that should someone be infected they will give you less of the virus, as less droplets and in many cases as you have less of the virus you will spread less and also become else illAre we all forgetting among all the hype and fear that some 98.8% of the population are not at risk? The vaccine will not stop you getting covid or stop you spreading it. The vaccine is supposedly to stop you from becoming extremely ill from covid. The mask thing is nonsense and always has been. I do wish people would start using their common sense and stop listening to the media and the scientist who's models have all been proven wrong so far. Covid exist but the biggest danger are the politicians.
They don't. They advise and the government makes the decision.
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