Londonccfcfan
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Not since Jodi jones got injured.
For the one JCH hit the post, when was the last time we got a midfielder behind the defence in a position like that?! Accringtons left winger did that to us 4 times last week.
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Not since Jodi jones got injured.
Sorry been away couple of days missed all this. I've been banging on about this for ages "reasonable rate" according to BBC scorers charts Biamou 35 shots 15 on target 2 goals 43% on target Akinfenwa about the same % of shots on target 15 goals Grant Notts county the same % 14 goals any reasonable striker in this division will score 1 ever 5 or 6 shots Look our own players Michael Doyle 14 shots 3 goals , Shipley 19 shots 3 goals, Bayliss 2 in 8 come too think ever scorer for us this season has a better goals per shot record than him and they are not strikers . Like I keep saying let the guy learn his trade in the u 23 first . I think he is 1 of the main reason we are where we are at the moment should have been dropped long agoThat's a reasonable rate of return in division 4.
Sorry been away couple of days missed all this. I've been banging on about this for ages "reasonable rate" according to BBC scorers charts Biamou 35 shots 15 on target 2 goals 43% on target Akinfenwa about the same % of shots on target 15 goals Grant Notts county the same % 14 goals any reasonable striker in this division will score 1 ever 5 or 6 shots Look our own players Michael Doyle 14 shots 3 goals , Shipley 19 shots 3 goals, Bayliss 2 in 8 come too think ever scorer for us this season has a better goals per shot record than him and they are not strikers . Like I keep saying let the guy learn his trade in the u 23 first . I think he is 1 of the main reason we are where we are at the moment should have been dropped long ago
Sorry been away couple of days missed all this. I've been banging on about this for ages "reasonable rate" according to BBC scorers charts Biamou 35 shots 15 on target 2 goals 43% on target Akinfenwa about the same % of shots on target 15 goals Grant Notts county the same % 14 goals any reasonable striker in this division will score 1 ever 5 or 6 shots Look our own players Michael Doyle 14 shots 3 goals , Shipley 19 shots 3 goals, Bayliss 2 in 8 come too think ever scorer for us this season has a better goals per shot record than him and they are not strikers . Like I keep saying let the guy learn his trade in the u 23 first . I think he is 1 of the main reason we are where we are at the moment should have been dropped long ago
That's bollocks.well this doesn't fit in with the "he's not getting any chances" comments.
I reckon you could be rightThe most alarming stat is without McNultys goals I reckon we would be relegation to non league fodder.
That's bollocks.
Akinfenwa on average has twice as many shots - 3 shots per game to Biamou's 1.5.
It's 1 shot every 29.6 minutes for Akinfenwa
1 shot every 36.6 mins for McNulty
1 every 39.9 for Danny Hylton before he was injured
a shot ever 43.4 mins for James Collins
a shot ever 45.3 mins for Billy Kee
a shot every 51.1 mins for Jorge Grant
a shot every 53.6 for Matt Rhead.
a shot every 56.6 mins for Biamou.
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So how doesn't it fit with the 'He's not getting any chances comments?' You think 1 shot every other game is creative?not sure that helps the argument for the lack of service camp.
So how doesn't it fit with the 'He's not getting any chances comments?' You think 1 shot every other game is creative?
Why didn't they score them then?As he has no predatory instinct he will not have as as many shots as the other strikers you mention - would he have been in position for the any of the chances his replacement made on Saturday - no. When the keeper saved in the last minute the strikers you mentioned would be in position to score not lumbering around with zero purpose.
So how doesn't it fit with the 'He's not getting any chances comments?' You think 1 shot every other game is creative?
Sorry been away couple of days missed all this. I've been banging on about this for ages "reasonable rate" according to BBC scorers charts Biamou 35 shots 15 on target 2 goals 43% on target Akinfenwa about the same % of shots on target 15 goals Grant Notts county the same % 14 goals any reasonable striker in this division will score 1 ever 5 or 6 shots Look our own players Michael Doyle 14 shots 3 goals , Shipley 19 shots 3 goals, Bayliss 2 in 8 come too think ever scorer for us this season has a better goals per shot record than him and they are not strikers . Like I keep saying let the guy learn his trade in the u 23 first . I think he is 1 of the main reason we are where we are at the moment should have been dropped long ago
Yours is the only reasonable argument on the thread. You think he doesn't make the runs to get in goal scoring positions. Very hard to prove either way though, which is the kind of argument you love! I think he's a perfectly decent L2 striker who took time out of his chosen career to educate himself but is progressing on a rapid learning curve in professional football. All exacerbated by Robins asking him to play in a role he's not played before as a defensive target man. People are comparing him to Akinfenwa whose whole team are set up to play through him.As he has no predatory instinct he will not have as as many shots as the other strikers you mention - would he have been in position for the any of the chances his replacement made on Saturday - no. When the keeper saved in the last minute the strikers you mentioned would be in position to score not lumbering around with zero purpose.
Jorge grant who is playing off the target men of Jon Stead and Shola Ameobi? You should watch more games rather than digging at other people for being negative. Where's the logic in comparing goal scoring midfielders on loan from champ clubs with a player used as a target outlet?surely if he has a shot every 57 mins he is getting 3 shots every 2 games ?, slightly less than Jorge Grant, who has bagged 14 goals ?
Jorge grant who is playing off the target men of Jon Stead and Shola Ameobi? You should watch more games rather than digging at other people for being negative. Where's the logic in comparing goal scoring midfielders on loan from champ clubs with a player used as a target outlet?
Specially for" Esoterica" Collins dictionary version of a striker "mainly attacks and scores goals" look down the page and no 4 is Biamou"positions himself near the opponent's goal in the HOPE of scoring
You agree with all the highlighted things wrong with our team: two defensive midfielders, no natural width, and no pace and then blame our target man, deployed in a defensive role for not scoring while comparing him to strikers whose teams are set up to bring the best out of them. We agree on many of the flaws in our team but this is one is a symptom not the cause. You know why he's been getting picked every week? Because he's been doing exactly what Robins has asked him to do. I think he would score more if we had real wingers and given the freedom to play as an out and out striker. He's never going to be prolific but I think he'd be better. I blame Robins and these terrible tactics, you just think he's shit and are pointing to meaningless shooting stats to try and prove it.Specially for" Esoterica" Collins dictionary version of a striker "mainly attacks and scores goals" look down the page and no 4 is Biamou"positions himself near the opponent's goal in the HOPE of scoring
You agree with all the highlighted things wrong with our team: two defensive midfielders, no natural width, and no pace and then blame our target man, deployed in a defensive role for not scoring while comparing him to strikers whose teams are set up to bring the best out of them. We agree on many of the flaws in our team but this is one is a symptom not the cause. You know why he's been getting picked every week? Because he's been doing exactly what Robins has asked him to do. I think he would score more if we had real wingers and given the freedom to play as an out and out striker. He's never going to be prolific but I think he'd be better. I blame Robins and these terrible tactics, you just think he's shit and are pointing to meaningless shooting stats to try and prove it.
I really, really like you as a poster on here. I must say though, this constant defense of Biamou is really desperate and it's getting a bit annoying.
Yes, as many people have said, our tactics are wrong. Max however is a poor striker and that cannot be overlooked. It is not his fault he is playing every game, and it is not his fault that he isn't crash hot, I know, and we know he is trying his best.
He is a major problem with why we are not scoring enough goals though, and 1 in 26 cannot be defended whatsoever, no matter which way you try and spin it. At the end of the season if we don't go up it will be down to the fact we don't score enough goals. Yes tactics are a problem, yes creativity is a problem, but one of the biggest catalysts will also have been Max Biamou.
I blame Robins and these terrible tactics, you just think he's shit and are pointing to meaningless shooting stats to try and prove it.
You know why he's been getting picked every week? Because he's been doing exactly what Robins has asked him to do..
I assume you are also giving credit to robins for Mcnulty goals tally then ?
Absolutely. He backed him relentlessly from the start, even when he was getting dogs abuse from some people. The reasons for him not scoring were clear.I assume you are also giving credit to robins for Mcnulty goals tally then ?
Or Ponticelli, 0 in 10 for him in the league is it now? Or 5 in the middle to fill the huge hole there whenever we play 2 DMs, which is effectively what Biamou is asked to do anyway, except the ball is kicked at his head not feet 9 times out of 10.or the alternative was Beavon
Or Ponticelli, 0 in 10 for him in the league is it now? .
I am not in any way defending his goals to game ratio - he could have and should have scored more than he has. I'd also be starting JCH, I've said that too - Biamou isn't currently being aggressive enough when he does get in the box or showing the selfishness that strikers usually do.I really, really like you as a poster on here. I must say though, this constant defense of Biamou is really desperate and it's getting a bit annoying.
Yes, as many people have said, our tactics are wrong. Max however is a poor striker and that cannot be overlooked. It is not his fault he is playing every game, and it is not his fault that he isn't crash hot, I know, and we know he is trying his best.
He is a major problem with why we are not scoring enough goals though, and 1 in 26 cannot be defended whatsoever, no matter which way you try and spin it. At the end of the season if we don't go up it will be down to the fact we don't score enough goals. Yes tactics are a problem, yes creativity is a problem, but one of the biggest catalysts will also have been Max Biamou.
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