chiefdave
Well-Known Member
That might be a good result for SISU. If it moves out of the hands of CCC there could be an increased chance of an offer to make it all go away.
Mean while back in court (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter sotonskyblue
- Start date
That might be a good result for SISU. If it moves out of the hands of CCC there could be an increased chance of an offer to make it all go away.
Captain Dart
Well-Known Member
SISU are taking on the Secretary of State now, this baby is going to Europe unless it is strangled now.
DazzleTommyDazzle
Well-Known Member
I must confess, I didn't think that we'd have a chance of being back in Europe so quickly!
John_Silletts_Nose
Well-Known Member
Agreed. If the government are involved then the emotion will be removed from one side and hopefully someone will bring sense to this dispute to end this ongoing legal saga that benefits nobody (... at the moment).
Specs WT-R75
Well-Known Member
well that escalated quickly...
stevefloyd
Well-Known Member
Cant be arsed to read it all anyone got any snippets of any good ?
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
In theory things should have become clearer.......
bang goes that theory...... I think I feel more confused by that than anything
the summaries provided pointed to so many contractions, and dare I say it inaccuracies. one minute things over valued the next under valued :thinking about:
I have no real idea which way this will go. I would think most of the things said were not relevant and the judges will strictly interpret the law in a very narrow way
bang goes that theory...... I think I feel more confused by that than anything
the summaries provided pointed to so many contractions, and dare I say it inaccuracies. one minute things over valued the next under valued :thinking about:
I have no real idea which way this will go. I would think most of the things said were not relevant and the judges will strictly interpret the law in a very narrow way
Last edited:
stevefloyd
Well-Known Member
Have I missed the theories/conspiracies/lies/corruption/pie in the sky/etc etc
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
One very interesting thing was that it appears CCC were talking to Wasps, or about Wasps, before they were taken over. This ties in with CRFC saying they were approached about working with Wasps by Richardson before he took them over.
Kind of blows the notion that they were planning to move back to London but couldn't out of the water.
Kind of blows the notion that they were planning to move back to London but couldn't out of the water.
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
No-Emerdale's on later
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't want to make that phone call!!!
You would have thought when the Lords got the heads up about this case, they should have asked straight away where is the QC for the government.
I would imagine if they are to be held accountable if the decision is in SISU's favour that they may ask for another hearing
As the Lord asked why there were not represented in one of his first questions but then just cracked on! Surely if the Government are liable he should have adjourned it to firstly to check if it would be them who liable and secondly to inform them do they can represent themselves.
You would have thought when the Lords got the heads up about this case, they should have asked straight away where is the QC for the government.
I would imagine if they are to be held accountable if the decision is in SISU's favour that they may ask for another hearing
As the Lord asked why there were not represented in one of his first questions but then just cracked on! Surely if the Government are liable he should have adjourned it to firstly to check if it would be them who liable and secondly to inform them do they can represent themselves.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
It all comes down solely to the loan and whether it was state aid or not. In that respect a lot of the details put forward are irrelevant.
However I would say that the talks relative to ACL value are relevant, as the lower the value of ACL the bigger the risk can be associated with the loan. The bigger the risk, then the bigger the interest rate that should be applied.
That risk would have been at the time of the loan but could relate to potential future incomes known to CCC at the time like any Wasps interests.
However I would say that the talks relative to ACL value are relevant, as the lower the value of ACL the bigger the risk can be associated with the loan. The bigger the risk, then the bigger the interest rate that should be applied.
That risk would have been at the time of the loan but could relate to potential future incomes known to CCC at the time like any Wasps interests.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
Why ?
Samo
Well-Known Member
We don't need that... of course it's flat, otherwise everything would roll off.
John_Silletts_Nose
Well-Known Member
Judges, not Lords. We have not had the case raised to the House of Lords ... yet!
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
It's just come to me this could all be a complete waste of time if after the referendum the vote is to leave the EU lol
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
With the intention of Sisu buying some or all of ACL or receiving a lower rent?
To be honest, I haven't followed enough and I'm enjoying the football, I'm going to leave it at this and just wait to see what happens.
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
The Dury's out.
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
What lies Nick?
Nick
Administrator
The fact she said the first contact was July the year they took over, but they were waiting wings with a document from 2012 is one.
Imagine if it was something proving tim Fisher wrong about a stadium....which is also common.
If he had said there was 5% chance there was going to be a stadium in Solihull, there would be fois, minutes from council meetings to try and disprove him.
Whereas ann Lucas and maton seem to get free reign on bullshit.
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
What was the document? Just interested. I believe in people too much you see
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Why would you need FOIs ? You've got three judges who are going to tell you all you need to know.
Nick
Administrator
It hasn't been published, the council qc confirmed it also.
Nick
Administrator
Aren't they just judging if it was state aid, rather than the council lying to tax payers? It seems they are untouchable with things like that.
The same as the "washing its face". Soon turned into "misadvised" and left at that.
Thankfully Tim Fisher doesn't run a city.
Kingokings204
Well-Known Member
Again regardless of what happens here it's the fans who are put through it and lose out.
You have to admit it's all a much to do about nothing. It's boring and it seems all rather irrelevant. It's got nothing to do with football and everyone is trying to argue over every fart made. It's boring and tedious.
I guess the saying is true.... "The only people who win are the lawyers"
You have to admit it's all a much to do about nothing. It's boring and it seems all rather irrelevant. It's got nothing to do with football and everyone is trying to argue over every fart made. It's boring and tedious.
I guess the saying is true.... "The only people who win are the lawyers"
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Not one European election more.
JimmyHillsbeard
Well-Known Member
Unless you think our dip in home form has coincided with the pitch being churned up by the rugby
Hobo
Well-Known Member
Nick you'd never unravel a he said she said debate. What any organisation public sector or private says to the public compared to what is really going on is miles apart.
Hobo
Well-Known Member
And the away form?
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Well. Sounded like more he said she said to me. I was sort of expecting the judges summing up from the JR to be picked apart in detail through the appeal but that just never seemed to happen except a very few times. Sounded more like a recap of the original court action than dissecting the conclusion from that. Based on that impression I can't see the appeal succeeding but then again thought they'd won originally so what do I know. SISU's legal team have probably swung it this time and if that does happen I wouldn't be surprised if the most surprised people are SISU's legal team. They'll probably be kicking themselves because the gravy train has just reached the end of the line 
unless they can find an angle to appeal the compensation claim because there aren't enough zeros on the cheque
unless they can find an angle to appeal the compensation claim because there aren't enough zeros on the cheque 