Mediation/arbitration (4 Viewers)

[lifelongcityfan]

and the only way they can get any money back is to force ACL into liquidation and then use the club as a "foil" to pick up the assets. Once they have that they will sell as quick as possible, with no benefit to the club at all.

 

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[Deleted member 5849]

Depends whether you welcomed them in the first place!

True enough

 

[James Smith]

SISU's original plan was to get to the Premiership; they bottled that and lost a lot of money in the process. What we are seeing now ( and for the last 2 years) is in my opinion plan B- which is to get as much money back as posible and not sink any more in.

I can see it now in SISU HQ "How does he know about the details of plan b? Listen up, Operation Suicide has been compromised......."

 

[wingy]

Tis a tired subject for sure and debated now for many months .This particular point 3-4 times in the last 9 months ,thats a gestation period for a monster to be born ,which is what we have now .

The Solution now is for a judge on two different points to declare how they see fit for this massive Dilemna to play out ,accompanied by the reasonings of the football authorities who have around 4 weeks to decide where and if this club can fullfil its commitments.If it is to be in our home City then the ADministrator needs to do his job and represent the part of the Club that deals with the lease.

 

[Ashdown1]

I don't understand why some are so against something that might help the club stay in Coventry. Isn't that what we all want?

We want SISU gone, unless they have next season will be a non starter. I won't give them any of our family money !

 

[georgehudson]

over the past two weeks i've done a straw poll amongst as many city fans as possible,
the question being 'do you want rid if sisu' ? yes / no,
99.6% want rid,
secondary question being 'given the current situation, do you want ccfc to play in Coventry' ? yes / no
99.2% yes,
still, we supporters who want rid of sisu are in the minority according to some

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I can see it now in SISU HQ "How does he know about the details of plan b? Listen up, Operation Suicide has been compromised......."

In the answers given to the Trust it's revealed that they wouldn't agree anything with ACL if it meant SISU had to put any more in.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

In the answers given to the Trust it's revealed that they wouldn't agree anything with ACL if it meant SISU had to put any more in.

It was also ACL who said no to arbitration, albeit the club put lots of conditions in their answer.

You'd have to ask why ACL would be against arbitration if they were so confident their offer was the fairest possible.

Call the club's bluff if they don't believe they'd actually sit down and agree to be bound by it. if they're so confident it wouldn't hurt their case, why not? Expose them for the sham they are, push them to binding arbitration.

Or... refuse to consider it.

In which case to the objective outsider, there's one side being more obstructive to a deal being thrashed out than the other, and it ain't the club.

 

[cloughie]

It was also ACL who said no to arbitration, albeit the club put lots of conditions in their answer.

You'd have to ask why ACL would be against arbitration if they were so confident their offer was the fairest possible.

Call the club's bluff if they don't believe they'd actually sit down and agree to be bound by it. if they're so confident it wouldn't hurt their case, why not? Expose them for the sham they are, push them to binding arbitration.

Or... refuse to consider it.

In which case to the objective outsider, there's one side being more obstructive to a deal being thrashed out than the other, and it ain't the club.

How can it be obstructive when

ACL lowered the rent offer massively yet the other side moved not one dot?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

ACL lowered the rent offer massively yet the other side moved not one dot?

We only have their word for that, not a legally binding agreement with an arbitrator.

What are they afraid of by introducing a third party, if they're 100% in the right?

 

[Bennets Afro]

Why do all you sisu boys now want arbitration????

Sisu had their chance and fucked it up. Time to move on!!!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was also ACL who said no to arbitration, albeit the club put lots of conditions in their answer.

You'd have to ask why ACL would be against arbitration if they were so confident their offer was the fairest possible.

Call the club's bluff if they don't believe they'd actually sit down and agree to be bound by it. if they're so confident it wouldn't hurt their case, why not? Expose them for the sham they are, push them to binding arbitration.

Or... refuse to consider it.

In which case to the objective outsider, there's one side being more obstructive to a deal being thrashed out than the other, and it ain't the club.

This of course assumes that the owners actually see the rent as an important issue rather than use its withholding as an attempt to bust ACL.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Why do all you sisu rent boys now want arbitration????

Sisu had their chance and fecked it up. Time to move on!!!

Corrected.

 

[cloughie]

We only have their word for that, not a legally binding agreement with an arbitrator.

What are they afraid of by introducing a third party, if they're 100% in the right?

We don't only have their word for that fisher said he was happy with £ 400,000 but wanted extras

 

[Deleted member 5849]

This of course assumes that the owners actually see the rent as an important issue rather than use its withholding as an attempt to bust ACL.

Then there's their chance to give some actual evidence, as opposed to spin through the press.

I thought everyone wanted a solution? Yet reading through this thread it seems I'm the only one who would support an attempt to find a solution to still playing in Coventry

 

[Deleted member 5849]

We don't only have their word for that fisher said he was happy with £ 400,000 but wanted extras

We do, so why so afraid of a chance for that to be tested?

 

[Bennets Afro]

I think most people would Want a solution as long as sisu are not involved.

They have destroyed our club!!!

 

[cloughie]

We do, so why so afraid of a chance for that to be tested?

I take it you are suggesting we cannot take fishers word for anything

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I take it you are suggesting we cannot take fishers word for anything

I wouldn't take anybody's press release as gospel truth, there's always an agenda.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think most people would Want a solution as long as sisu are not involved.

They have destroyed our club!!!

So you want the club to move out of Coventry if it hastens them leaving?

 

[cloughie]

I wouldn't take anybody's press release as gospel truth, there's always an agenda.

Agreed, yet we cannot be selective about who said they would or wouldn'tagree arbitration /mediation on that basis, just through their press rerleases

 

[Bennets Afro]

No I don't want the team to move out of Coventry. I don't think it will happen and wherever the team play next season if sisu are still in control I fear that crowds will drop even further b

They need to realise that they took a chance on a football team and it never worked and feck off instead of trying to screw anyone over to get control over a stadium as things never went the way they wanted and trying to exploit every loophole to get what they want

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Agreed, yet we cannot be selective about who said they would or wouldn'tagree arbitration /mediation on that basis, just through their press rerleases

We can be certain that ACL rejected it!

 

[cloughie]

We can be certain that ACL rejected it!

How if you cannot believe press releases?

That applies to both sides about whoever says whatever

 

[Deleted member 5849]

How if you cannot believe press releases?

That applies to both sides about whoever says whatever

So they said no but meant yes?

Sounds a bit like a Marlon King view of the world that.

So tell me a reason why they'd secretly want to go to arbitration, but give an unequivocal no when asked? What's in it for them to do that?

 

[cloughie]

So they said no but meant yes?

Sounds a bit like a Marlon King view of the world that.

And sisu/fisher said yes but meant no? or do you only believe certain press releases that suit

You said you do not believe press releases

Make up your mind

 

[Ashdown1]

We only have their word for that, not a legally binding agreement with an arbitrator.

What are they afraid of by introducing a third party, if they're 100% in the right?

Stop bleating about nothing you SISU fool, they tried to bust their way to the real estate, their bluff was called, no one wants them. They've failed and now they need to move on !

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Stop bleating about nothing you SISU fool, they tried to bust their way to the real estate, their bluff was called, no one wants them. They've failed and now they need to move on !

Don't be such an abusive tool.

I've been perfectly polite, so shut up if you can't say anything polite in return.

 

[Ashdown1]

Stop talking utter bollox then !

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Stop talking utter bollox then !

God forbid I put forward an argument that suggests there's no winner or loser.

If you can't contribute more than drivel, keep out of it.

 

[Ashdown1]

There is nothing polite to say about the cretinous hedge fund that have utterly trashed my football club, no one wants them to stay.....................no one !!

 

[Bennets Afro]

Northern wisdom wants sisu to stay!!!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

There is nothing polite to say about the cretinous hedge fund that have utterly trashed my football club, no one wants them to stay.....................no one !!

Seems there's nothing polite that comes out of your mouth either.

Perhaps before shooting your mouth off, you ought to try reading properly and see that I'm not actually wanting SISU to stay, that's not what I've said.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Northern wisdom wants sisu to stay!!!

Another one who can't manage 1+1

 

[Bennets Afro]

And why is that?