Mowbray wants to bring back Proschwitz permanently... (5 Viewers)

duffer · Jun 15, 2015

Fair play to TM, at least he explains his thinking in the article...

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/sky-blues-boss-tony-mowbray-9457027

Got to trust the bloke, otherwise there's not much point in making him manager. I hope he's right - if nothing else at least he's seen enough of NP to make a call on it.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jun 15, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Interesting that he was high on Pressley's shopping list.

Wonder if Pressley were here trying to sign him on a permanent deal, if people would be quite so ready to give the benefit of the doubt.

Pressley hadn't earned the benefit of the doubt though, if Pressley had tried to sign him 18 months ago I imagine he would be given the benefit of the doubt at that point.

pusbccfc · Jun 15, 2015

His finishing in the warm up before the games were horrific. At County it took him 7 shots to score one.
He is a big lad but doesn't offer much. Tudgay is a lot better at holding the ball up.

trueskyblue87 · Jun 15, 2015

TM: "I am going back to what I see on the training ground every day and his ability to finish with consummate ease".

Says a lot about our defence then.

ccfc_Tom · Jun 15, 2015

Liked his effort but was shockingly bad I thought, Worst finisher I'v ever seen at the club

Otis · Jun 15, 2015

pusbccfc said:
His finishing in the warm up before the games were horrific. At County it took him 7 shots to score one.
He is a big lad but doesn't offer much. Tudgay is a lot better at holding the ball up.

Yep. I studied him in warm-ups too and 8 out of every 10 shots were dragged wide of the post and miss-hit.

standupforcity · Jun 15, 2015

Having read what TM has to say about this, I'm confident he knows exactly what he's doing, and I feel confident about this signing now. Even though he was pretty bad whenever I saw him play, I can accept that lack of fitness and confidence had a lot to do with that. So I'm confident because TM is a manager of integrity, and someone who trusts his own judgement, and that's good enough for me! There's no question the right supply for him, if he knows he'll get it, will make things a lot easier for him. But if he gets it and doesn't capitalise, then that's different. But I'm happy to go with TM and believe he will score goals with fitness and confidence when he steps out there.

Grendel · Jun 15, 2015

standupforcity said:
Having read what TM has to say about this, I'm confident he knows exactly what he's doing, and I feel confident about this signing now. Even though he was pretty bad whenever I saw him play, I can accept that lack of fitness and confidence had a lot to do with that. So I'm confident because TM is a manager of integrity, and someone who trusts his own judgement, and that's good enough for me! There's no question the right supply for him, if he knows he'll get it, will make things a lot easier for him. But if he gets it and doesn't capitalise, then that's different. But I'm happy to go with TM and believe he will score goals with fitness and confidence when he steps out there.

Mowbray is a good manager and I'm not sure why he's here but he will sign some poor players.

Grendel · Jun 15, 2015

ccfc_Tom said:
Liked his effort but was shockingly bad I thought, Worst finisher I'v ever seen at the club

Too young to remember Robert Rosario?

Otis · Jun 15, 2015

Grendel said:
Too young to remember Robert Rosario?

Kevin Kyle was poor too. Tried too hard if anything.

We've had worse than Proschwitz that's for sure.

skybluepm2 · Jun 15, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Interesting that he was high on Pressley's shopping list.

Wonder if Pressley were here trying to sign him on a permanent deal, if people would be quite so ready to give the benefit of the doubt.

I doubt even Proschwitz would want to drop to League 2.

sw88 · Jun 15, 2015

I wanted it to work for him here. I liked him, but even I could see it wasn't going to work out for him here.

However, Im prepared to give him a second shot, with proper pre season behind him if this deal happens.

Do think hes an honest footballer who was probably trying too hard, hence his massive misses during his time with us.

Do think the penalty miss could have been missed by any of our players last season though, so ill exclude that from the list of poor misses. Just look at our stats; he wasn't alone in missing from the spot.

steveecov · Jun 15, 2015

Waggo involved?

Terry Gibson's perm · Jun 15, 2015

steveecov said:
Waggo involved?

Less and less hopefully

ccfc_Tom · Jun 15, 2015

Grendel said:
Too young to remember Robert Rosario?

Yup, I take it he was worse? Kyle was crap that was in championship so as pros was that bad in l1 I'd say he was worse last season. Hopefully he somehow completely changes next season if we sign though..

covboy1987 · Jun 15, 2015

Signed for Hull city for £2,600,000 in 2012 - must have something - His goal ratio when he settles down at clubs is quite high - needs to have a good run in the team, be encouraged by a manager that rates him and you just never know - The £20,000 a week pay salary he was on at hull will have a few 00 taken off

Sick Boy · Jun 15, 2015

LB87ccfc said:
So 22 Goals Andy Williams is free and available on the verge of signing for Scunthorpe, Bury sign Clarke and Pope and we try to sign this guy, something dont add up here, maybe fitness was an issue, but the budget does not sound great at all.

What do you expect when we have so many proudly going on about Nopm. This is their intention is it not?

Grendel · Jun 15, 2015

covboy1987 said:
Signed for Hull city for £2,600,000 in 2012 - must have something - His goal ratio when he settles down at clubs is quite high - needs to have a good run in the team, be encouraged by a manager that rates him and you just never know - The £20,000 a week pay salary he was on at hull will have a few 00 taken off

Coventry City once held the British Transfer Record - for Larry Lloyd - he was still crap

rupert_bear · Jun 15, 2015

Grendel said:
Coventry City once held the British Transfer Record - for Larry Lloyd - he was still crap

Not at Nottingham Forest though under a proper manager who nicked him off us for £60k, managed him properly, made him a player and he went on to win a league title medal, 2 European cups and a number of league cups, not bad for someone who was crap !

Grendel · Jun 15, 2015

rupert_bear said:
Not at Nottingham Forest though under a proper manager who nicked him off us for £60k, managed him properly, made him a player and he went on to win a league title medal, 2 European cups and a number of league cups, not bad for someone who was crap !

With us he just got fatter and fatter and lazy. Milne wasn't a bad manager.

rupert_bear · Jun 15, 2015

Grendel said:
With us he just got fatter and fatter and lazy. Milne wasn't a bad manager.

And under ten years of Gordon Milne at the helm we achieved ???, NOWT !

Grendel · Jun 15, 2015

rupert_bear said:
And under ten years of Gordon Milne at the helm we achieved ???, NOWT !

I think that's harsh. We survived against incredible odds and had the best season this club will ever experience in mine and probably generations to come lifetime.

Hill was an idiot to just chuck him. He should have been kept on in some capacity. Then again as a chairman Hill was an idiot full stop.

Old Warwickshire lad · Jun 15, 2015

He is the manager. So why for once don't we let him manage.

wingy · Jun 15, 2015

Grendel said:
I think that's harsh. We survived against incredible odds and had the best season this club will ever experience in mine and probably generations to come lifetime.

Hill was an idiot to just chuck him. He should have been kept on in some capacity. Then again as a chairman Hill was an idiot full stop.

It did seem harsh to move him up or on just when we got to within a whisker of Wembley
Then he went to Leicester and IIRC they were relegated then immediately promoted
followed by success In Turkey and worked with several big clubs + England In a coaching capacity + was considered for the England role when Revie got It
Not too shabby IMO

PVA · Jun 15, 2015

He's not great but he's better than Nouble, who most on here proclaimed to be the second coming...

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 15, 2015

wingy said:
It did seem harsh to move him up or on just when we got to within a whisker of Wembley
Then he went to Leicester and IIRC they were relegated then immediately promoted
followed by success In Turkey and worked with several big clubs + England In a coaching capacity + was considered for the England role when Revie got It
Not too shabby IMO

Plus we actually attacked... in an era where negative play was the norm, too.

Not many CCFC managers have thought about winning a game first, rather than not losing.

rupert_bear · Jun 15, 2015

Back to Proschwitz, Milne talk should be a different thread. For me the German certainly improved and could have had a few goals. We have to remember Tony Mowbray is having to juggle the finances and is restricted to who he can sign. There will have to be the odd gamble, I take Proschwitz as a bit of a calculated gamble for Mowbray having seen him and worked with him on the training field last season.

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 15, 2015

rupert_bear said:
Back to Proschwitz, Milne talk should be a different thread.

Not so keen to tell us it's Waggott who makes the choices now, and it's proven by the rubbish players we sign?

The Lurker · Jun 15, 2015

Say for arguments sake this was Pressley keeping NP after his performances back end of last season there would be uproar! Seems the blinkered glasses of TM appointment is clouding many people's judgement and what it tells me, only 2-3 new faces will be coming in and that'll be loans. Anyone at Crawley will tell you they were happy to see the back of him when he went off. He missed so many guilt edge chances last season which almost cost us. He's not proven and the massive transfer few hull paid is irrelevant

rupert_bear · Jun 15, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Not so keen to tell us it's Waggott who makes the choices now, and it's proven by the rubbish players we sign?

Wtf you on about ?

The Lurker · Jun 15, 2015

skybluejelly said:
He was a lot better than madine but where as madine seemed to miss hit them and they went in proschwitz seemed to hit them well and they were saved.. Got to be worth a chance with a decent pre season ..

I take it you forgot those 2 glaring misses that he missed shooting towards the telegraph stand last season. Both 6 yards out and both closer to the corner flag than the goal and that pen miss at Crawley was a timid shot to say the least

ccfcway · Jun 15, 2015

Warwickshire lad said:
He is the manager. So why for once don't we let him manage.

i dont actually think anyone is suggesting an intervention and a fan based consortuim to take control of team affairs. I think its just that a few people have an opinion on this striker and have voiced than opinion on a forum.

Without an opinion on here, it would just be astute and grendal arguing about a bet

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 15, 2015

ccfcway said:
Without an opinion on here, it would just be astute and grendal arguing about a bet

Can't wait for the 'how may goals will Proschwitz score' installment.

hill83 · Jun 15, 2015

Deleted member 5849 said:
Can't wait for the 'how may goals will Proschwitz score' installment.

I've already said at least 15. If we sign him of course. I'll even do another bet with the money going to charity like last time.

mrtrench · Jun 15, 2015

[video=youtube;3HILQFSPjWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HILQFSPjWE[/video]

Well he certainly seems to have had the ability. Confidence could make all the difference. Possibly he was gaining in confidence which is why he started to improve?

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