Who said he was "Informed"It's like believing that clubs doing such questionable acts would inform their shirt sponsor first.
Bottom line is, no-one has any 'facts' here necessarily. All we have is what is out in the public domain.
I have no reason to believe Neal, but then at the same time no reason to disbelieve him. I don't know the bloke personally so am unable to vouch for him. All we do know is that tapping up does go on, even if it is just on an informal basis.
Nothing has been Proven to be correct at all. Anderson says "No contact" so you all believe him. Not once have the words "No contact" been spoken by TM/MV/RUFC.No I'm not. I'm saying you revealed information from a source which proved to be incorrect.
Anti club? How? I said it would be reasonable to believe that some contact had been made although my only 'proof' was what the shirt sponsor said. I also Said that TM only has a year left on his contract so 'may' be sussing out alternatives. Also an example of change of statement which suited you was JS announcing plans/ talks on the BPA which he had originally denied. This showed how much denials mean. You were like a pig in shit at that reversal.He didn't say he was tapped up he said the club had given permission and a formal interview took place between two candidates - neither of whom is the preferred candidate - and as I say why disbelieve someone - why not just accept what was told was not correct.
Good to see Martcov liked your post - he's a bit disappointed as he was waited to poke his anti club stick into proceedings and now has put in on hold.
Anti club? How? I said it would be reasonable to believe that some contact had been made although my only 'proof' was what the shirt sponsor said. I also Said that TM only has a year left on his contract so 'may' be sussing out alternatives. Also an example of change of statement which suited you was JS announcing plans/ talks on the BPA which he had originally denied. This showed how much denials mean. You were like a pig in shit at that reversal.
Bottom line is, no-one has any 'facts' here necessarily. All we have is what is out in the public domain.
I have no reason to believe Neal, but then at the same time no reason to disbelieve him. I don't know the bloke personally so am unable to vouch for him. All we do know is that tapping up does go on, even if it is just on an informal basis.
The scale of the perception problem surrounding our club is unbelievable. Despite the wealth of evidence to the contrary the worst case is always believed.
Bawtryneal stated that he knew that TM had been interviewed; he even gave the venue. Further he was led to believe that Mowbray and Venus approached Rotherham not the other way round. The job he thought would go to either M with V as his assistant or to the former Blackburn boss, Gary Bowyer.
A week on CCFC have denied receiving an approach, Rotherham admitted talking to out of work candidates but have denied being the sort of club who would talk to someone already in a job, and have approached officially - and are set to appoint - Alan Stubbs from Hibs.
So the scenario seems very clear to me. Either Bawtryneal (who is involved with the new sponsors of the Rotherham kit) was genuinely misinformed or there's a series of deceptions, bordering on conspiracy, from our manager, his assistant, their chairman and our chief executive to keep the real story from emerging (except on this fans' message board).
You need a very good reason to reject the simplest explanation (that Bawtryneal was wrong on this). I don't see one.
Who says Bawtryneal was "Misinformed" infact, who says he was "Informed" about anything?The scale of the perception problem surrounding our club is unbelievable. Despite the wealth of evidence to the contrary the worst case is always believed.
Bawtryneal stated that he knew that TM had been interviewed; he even gave the venue. Further he was led to believe that Mowbray and Venus approached Rotherham not the other way round. The job he thought would go to either M with V as his assistant or to the former Blackburn boss, Gary Bowyer.
A week on CCFC have denied receiving an approach, Rotherham admitted talking to out of work candidates but have denied being the sort of club who would talk to someone already in a job, and have approached officially - and are set to appoint - Alan Stubbs from Hibs.
So the scenario seems very clear to me. Either Bawtryneal (who is involved with the new sponsors of the Rotherham kit) was genuinely misinformed or there's a series of deceptions, bordering on conspiracy, from our manager, his assistant, their chairman and our chief executive to keep the real story from emerging (except on this fans' message board).
You need a very good reason to reject the simplest explanation (that Bawtryneal was wrong on this). I don't see one.
The comment said the club had given him permission - that is a formal approach.
So what happened next?
Rotherham thought he was rubbish and rejected him - or -
He decided sisu were far better owners than Rotherham
Either way your pointy stick can't come out can it?
Who says Bawtryneal was "Misinformed" infact, who says he was "Informed" about anything?
Everyone has their opinion on what went on. There are some brainy men/women on this forum yet not one has come up with the answer to Bawtryneal's post. Keep thinking guys/girls,coz I'm not going to do it for youHow did he find out then? Next you'll be saying that it was him who did the interview
Who says Bawtryneal was "Misinformed" infact, who says he was "Informed" about anything?
Everyone has their opinion on what went on. There are some brainy men/women on this forum yet not one has come up with the answer to Bawtryneal's post. Keep thinking guys/girls,coz I'm not going to do it for you
Everyone has their opinion on what went on. There are some brainy men/women on this forum yet not one has come up with the answer to Bawtryneal's post. Keep thinking guys/girls,coz I'm not going to do it for you
Can you explain this for me please? Thanks.
No mate, I don't think it's fantasy at all. 100% believe what Neal has said. It's not what he thought was true.. It's what he knows is trueHe said he was informed. I chose and still choose to believe he was genuinely passing on what he thought was true. As a poster he doesn't have a history of winding up for the sake of it, and he gave a plausible connection to RUFC.
Do you think it's all fantasy?
@ Samo...."Self confessed Grammar police".... QUOTE[Grendel "he's a bit disappointed as he was waited to poke his anti club stick into proceedings and now has put in on hold.UNQUOTE] Come on Nee Nah, Nee Nah. get it sorted. Not proper Inglund ffs!
Pretty much self explanatory Hill83. After all I'm thick aren't I? I don't know anything do I?Can you explain this for me please? Thanks.
Why would that be? I think the important words in the sentence are..."If this is true,"...... Words and twist come to mind SBWM
Lmfao... A million miles away mateI've just realised.....it's half term
Pretty much self explanatory Hill83. After all I'm thick aren't I? I don't know anything do I?
Pretty much self explanatory Hill83. After all I'm thick aren't I? I don't know anything do I?
Weren't you having a go at my post? If not, why reply in the first place?Why would that be? I think the important words in the sentence are "could get awkward",.....Words and twist come to mind SBK
Lmfao... A million miles away mate
Weren't you having a go at my post? If not, why reply in the first place?
You all act like you know more than the OP. So at this point "I'll leave things at that" bye:happy:
NO! I did not say that! I said if it ever comes out that TM/MV had spoken to RUFC they would have "Egg on their faces". A phrase I'm still saying when the truth comes out. Might take some time but the truth will eventually come out.Yeah...you pretty much insinuated that Torch et al would have egg on their faces if TM was appointed. I said that was awkward as Stubbs looks like hes getting a new job with Rotherham.
Can you not see that?
You all act like you know more than the OP. So at this point "I'll leave things at that" bye:happy:
NO! I did not say that! I said if it ever comes out that TM/MV had spoken to RUFC they would have "Egg on their faces". A phrase I'm still saying when the truth comes out. Might take some time but the truth will eventually come out.
Steve Evans has been sacked at Leeds. Who is going to start the TM to Leeds rumour?
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