But you're basing you're argument on figures you're guessing at.
However - with both social and cultural consideration why do you think there would be a large demand for mental health services by refugees?
Ok so it doesn't happen. We can just ignore it?
Surely if demand shoots up, either the services need to as well or service goes down?
Perhaps the latest attack by Muslims in Europe..........you know the one where they slit the catholic priests throat screaming Allah Akbar wasn't terrorists either !! Where will be next ? And MartGermany can't see a bit of danger in what Merkel did, it was all worth the risk.........well as events continue to unfold as they surely will, I hope people keep reminding you that wet blankets just like you are out of your depth when talking about this onslaught. You might be well intentioned and a decent person but you and your type have exposed millions more people to grim possibilities from these religious brainwashed maniacs.
The facts?
Or do you mean your facts? Like I want to replace Hitler. And that black people are brown people if they are muslims. And people in the UK think it is OK for white Christians to murder people but not OK for brown muslims to do so.
Yes all comments made by you. And you are sick if it should have been a joke but the smilie on your phone isn't working
If you put ; and ) together you get a wink. But you should know this by now. Phones have done it for enough years now.
So what did you mean with this bullshit then?Maybe you should become the new Führer and place everyone who is Muslim ( or maybe brown) in a camp? That way we would all be safe....?
...an already strained system where even children cannot get access to the consultations they need.I'm talking about the stuff in Germany where mart says to just give everybody treatment.
Where people from war zones come over there would be a lot more stuff going on that could give them mental health issues. I dread to think what some of them have seen.
If you take in thousands that need mental health treatment or need to go into a unit, surely that would strain the system?
In fairness this is no different to he guesswork involved in allowing the influx to start with. It was probably guessed that there would be very few migrants that were non-refugees (I. E. Economic migrants) nor that posed many/any unacceptable risk to the rest of us. That guessing was done by those living mostly within a security cocoon where their kind neither know nor care how much a pint of milk costs let alone what risks the average punter faces with increasing frequency.But you're basing you're argument on figures you're guessing at.
However - with both social and cultural consideration why do you think there would be a large demand for mental health services by refugees?
In fairness this is no different to he guesswork involved in allowing the influx to start with.
Whilst the numbers of people acknowledging they have mental health issues and seeking assistance to address them is slowly increasing in the West, it simply doesn't follow that people from other countries/cultures will suddenly flock to take up such services.
Maybe they should, they wouldn't hack at people with axes then.
So you've flipped from raising issue with the swamping of mental health services resulting in locals being pushed down the queue to saying that people with mental health issues should take up the services you've originally criticised them from negatively impacting upon!
Well done, no seriously, well done! :facepalm:
So you've flipped from raising issue with the swamping of mental health services resulting in locals being pushed down the queue to saying that people with mental health issues should take up the services you've originally criticised them from negatively impacting upon!
Well done, no seriously, well done! :facepalm:
Mart is saying they should be in a unit, so I was saying surely if you were to put them all in a unit it would have an impact on the services.
Because they could not be stopped back in the days by means you are asking for today. Doesn't make sense to me.I'm curious why you think this is relevant.
Yes.Any real Germans here?
Okay, fair enough.
It's just that you give the impression that you're speaking for the German public whereas my knowledge of them suggests they are thinking very differently from you indeed.
Just the ones wishing themselves back to 1933.
You see, what you perceive as the views of the right and extreme right (on this matter at least) are what I believe a majority of Germans are really thinking even if they haven't yet come out and said so.
Ah the old Nazi shout
That's what you said.
Define "majority".
Don't think so. A "majority" would give neo nazi parties like the AfD more than 15%.
And you have obsessed over a single point in a wide discussion, for a change.
Mart is saying they should be in a unit, so I was saying surely if you were to put them all in a unit it would have an impact on the services.
Christ, stop taking everything so literally all the time.
You made issue about locals being pushed down the lists, but the flipped your position and said the refugees should take up the available service - so which is it?
No, I don't.So you're suggesting that anyone who disagrees with Angela's open door policy or is even slightly more conservative than you is a "Neo Nazi"?
No, I don't.
I do think whoever votes for a party with proven links to criminal + violent right wing gangs and one that can't come to terms to refrain from one of them openly claiming that the killing of jews in WWII never happend is.
They wouldn't be voting for these fringe parties if the mainstream parties adopted more sensible immigration policies more in line with how a majority of Germans feel.No, I don't.
I do think whoever votes for a party with proven links to criminal + violent right wing gangs and one that can't come to terms to refrain from one of them openly claiming that the killing of jews in WWII never happend is.
I still think you miss the points completely by taking things too literally and insisted on bar charts and written statements before understanding anything you don't agree with.*
Martcov is trying to say that the refugees involved have mental health issues and should be helped before they can cause issues like this, so if they are forced to receive help for the safety of themselves and others. Who is going to do this? Will they build new units to house them?
If they don't receive it, then they are wandering the streets with an axe.
*Is this where you say "where have I insisted on bar charts and written statements", again clearly mis-understanding.
The politicians that vote for more immigration should be forced to live in the immigrant areas. That might cause a change in policy.
I'm not missing the point, I just don't think you're making your point very well.
You introduced the 1000s figure into the discussion.
You know there are people in these numbers in Germany with such a level of mental health issue they'd take such steps as using an axe?
Unless of course you think everyone will a mental health issue is prone to carrying out an axe attack or any attack for that matter?
I'd rather take this literally than make it up as I go along.
They wouldn't be voting for these fringe parties if the mainstream parties adopted more sensible immigration policies more in line with how a majority of Germans feel.
So you claim the European population is "racist, mysoginistic and outrageously homophobic" ?I wouldn't start taking a pro Jewish stance if I were you. The people being allowed into your country don't even recognise Israel on a map. It's actually removed.
It is funny that a particular culture which is deeply racist, mysoginistic and outrageously homophobic is staunchly defended by those who would be morally outraged if the indegenous European population espoused the views that they do.
I'd rather have a thousand refugees around me than one of you lot.Completely agree. Their hypocrisy is sickening. Mention anything like the cologne attacks are you're the mysoginistc one not the 'refugee' perpetrators.
I'd rather have a thousand refugees around me than one of you lot.
They scare me less.
I'm not speaking for anyone, I 'm making an observation.So now you are speaking for all of Germany ?
If we're looking in particular at Syria its been a colossal fuck up. We started bombing them with no idea what we would do when people very predictably started fleeing the area.So you're suggesting that anyone who disagrees with Angela's open door policy or is even slightly more conservative than you is a "Neo Nazi"?
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