Next manager thread (3 Viewers)

[Skybluekyle]

King: Do you want me to show you out the CBS or would you prefer to be dragged off kicking and screaming?

Robins: Ohh, kicking and screaming, please

King: As you wish

Robins: Noooooooooooo

 

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[skybluecam]

As I said on a previous thread I think it will be Russell Martin when he is sacked from Southampton.

But the thought of Lati, Kitching and Thomas playing tiki taka out from the back gives me nightmares.

Lati wouldn't get in a Martin team

Kitching and Thomas are actually pretty good with their feet.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Lati wouldn't get in a Martin team

Kitching and Thomas are actually pretty good with their feet.

If I’m not wrong, hasn’t Lati already been in a Martin team at Swansea? If I’m not wrong he was his captain during some games.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think most of us agree with that but if MR can't, or doesn't want to work under Doug King's "new model army" what do we do?

Let’s keep things civil

 

[skybluecam]

If I’m not wrong, hasn’t Lati already been in a Martin team at Swansea? If I’m not wrong he was his captain during some games.

True actually. He must’ve forgotten how to pass since then.

 

[Deity]

He’d only move to a Premier League club from where he’s at, it’s a bit mental to think he’d consider it

Not true. He nearly left in the summer.

West Brom are a mess behind the scenes.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Not true. He nearly left in the summer.

Oh right didn’t know that. Where did he nearly leave to?

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Not true. He nearly left in the summer.

West Brom are a mess behind the scenes.

Not anymore they’re not. They’ve had a takeover and the only issue they have atm is staying within FFP parameters.

which they should. They’ll be ok next next year

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

The Mick Beale chat simply has to stop. He was essentially found out to be a charlatan.

I don't see anyone out there better than what we have (who would be interested in us), the issue Doug has is nobody will come in and work with the merry men he has assembled to support Robins. So does he sack them all?

IF we do make a change it'll be because you can only lose so many games as a manager before you go, that's just the nature of the game we love.

This isn’t true at all. As I’ve said before you put the coaching staff in place for the profile you want. You then hire a head coach to go with that profile.

the coaching staff or players haven’t been assembled with Robins in mind - it’s up for Robins to adapt to them not the other way round.

 

[Stevenage_sky_blue]

I think most of us agree with that but if MR can't, or doesn't want to work under Doug King's "new model army" what do we do?
There is an astonishing difference to me between previous displays under MR and now. Previously we have always had fighting characters in the team. Remember how we brought in Doyle, Kelly, and later McFadz, Godden etc.
This team NEEDS 1 or preferably 2 tough experienced leaders but for some reason we don't have any. Crazy!

Doug King’s vision is key though. It would appear that he just wants to buy, at some cost, young players in the hope that they progress enough to earn profit from in future, as opposed to bringing in a gnarly leader figure who has been about a bit and fusing that with a couple of younger lads, with a bit of quality, on loan from bigger clubs who will bust a gut to try and prove a point to their parent club therefore adding that raw bit of talent to the team at a fraction of the cost.

In all a very risky stratergy and clearly one that is not working. We need a real leader to manage things on the pitch, for me we do not have that at the club currently, and I agree, this is crazy!

 

[Deity]

Not anymore they’re not. They’ve had a takeover and the only issue they have atm is staying within FFP parameters.

which they should. They’ll be ok next next year

It’s not going quite to plan …..

 

[Stevenage_sky_blue]

Let’s keep things civil

 

[shmmeee]

Lati wouldn't get in a Martin team

Kitching and Thomas are actually pretty good with their feet.

I mean he did play over 60 times in two seasons for Martin.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

I mean he did play over 60 times in two seasons for Martin.

Don't let things like that get in the way of a fellow posters entrenched opinion of a player

 

[skybluecam]

Don't let things like that get in the way of a fellow posters entrenched opinion of a player

It's not entrenched at all, I thought he was improving then at QPR he'd forgotten how to kick a ball.

It was painful to watch him trying to control it.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

This isn’t true at all. As I’ve said before you put the coaching staff in place for the profile you want. You then hire a head coach to go with that profile.

the coaching staff or players haven’t been assembled with Robins in mind - it’s up for Robins to adapt to them not the other way round.

That’s the way I’m seeing it as well. Robins is out of his depth right now with the modern day set-up.

 

[ProfessorbyGrace]

All of these observations about ‘players forgetting how to pass/control a ball’ reminds me of my own experiences as a young footballer. Admittedly, I was ‘ok’, however whenever I had a trial for the school team, I’d play within myself. I’d overthink everything, over-hit passes, get dragged out of position too easily, and it’s like I was trying to trap a bag of cement.

Some of these players are playing this way, like they’re trying too hard and not
performing ‘naturally’. There’s too much pressure, probably self induced to a degree.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I mean he did play over 60 times in two seasons for Martin.

C’mon man

All of these observations about ‘players forgetting how to pass/control a ball’ reminds me of my own experiences as a young footballer. Admittedly, I was ‘ok’, however whenever I had a trial for the school team, I’d play within myself. I’d overthink everything, over-hit passes, get dragged out of position too easily, and it’s like I was trying to trap a bag of cement.

Some of these players are playing this way, like they’re trying too hard and not
performing ‘naturally’. There’s too much pressure, probably self induced to a degree.

That is pretty evident from how they play in cup games and friendlies.

 

[sixfoursix]

Doug King’s vision is key though. It would appear that he just wants to buy, at some cost, young players in the hope that they progress enough to earn profit from in future, as opposed to bringing in a gnarly leader figure who has been about a bit and fusing that with a couple of younger lads, with a bit of quality, on loan from bigger clubs who will bust a gut to try and prove a point to their parent club therefore adding that raw bit of talent to the team at a fraction of the cost.

In all a very risky stratergy and clearly one that is not working. We need a real leader to manage things on the pitch, for me we do not have that at the club currently, and I agree, this is crazy!

Good points there, Deity replied to my post saying maybe we thought Kitchen and Thomas were those leaders, which is reasonable but so far hasn't worked out that way.
The experienced player(s) we need, whoever they may be, will most likely protect the value of our young upcoming players by getting the most out of them on the pitch.

 

[sixfoursix]

Let’s keep things civil

Could you explain please?

 

[Stevenage_sky_blue]

Good points there, Deity replied to my post saying maybe we thought Kitchen and Thomas were those leaders, which is reasonable but so far hasn't worked out that way.
The experienced player(s) we need, whoever they may be, will most likely protect the value of our young upcoming players by getting the most out of them on the pitch.

Agree on the Kitchen and Thomas train of thought and maybe they will become that leader one day. We need that seasoned player who’s been around a bit has a bit of class in his play and an eye for managing dynamic matters on the pitch when things aren’t going so well.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Could you explain please?

New Model Army - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Stevenage_sky_blue]

New Model Army - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well spotted in the first place Brighton Sky Blue, I did wonder if anyone would pick up on the term in my original comment, and then you backed it up

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The Mick Beale chat simply has to stop. He was essentially found out to be a charlatan.

I don't see anyone out there better than what we have (who would be interested in us), the issue Doug has is nobody will come in and work with the merry men he has assembled to support Robins. So does he sack them all?

IF we do make a change it'll be because you can only lose so many games as a manager before you go, that's just the nature of the game we love.

It’s also too early in the season to really make such a huge decision to sack such a successful manager.

In ten games time, we could go on an excellent run of form and many people look like complete idiots for even questioning Robins.

This literally happened on 2022/23 and the the L1 winning season.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

New Model Army - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Have you finally found my collection of history books?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Have you finally found my collection of history books?

Yes I have. Really enjoyed the Terrible Tudors.

 

[itsabuzzard]

It’s also too early in the season to really make such a huge decision to sack such a successful manager.

In ten games time, we could go on an excellent run of form and many people look like complete idiots for even questioning Robins.

This literally happened on 2022/23 and the the L1 winning season.

Many people are complete idiots.