Johnnythespider
Well-Known Member
He or she probably used the tent on a camping trip
He or she probably used the tent on a camping tripEspecially the bungler who was responsible for logging and storing exhibits.
You can't really make judgements from media stories but there seemed no evidence other than one hair which proved inconclusive. They didn't even seem to be able to link the accused pair to the victim. No apparent motive, no real evidence. Amazed the CPS bought the case forward.
No, you misunderstand. Maybe I worded it wrong. What I meant was that just because you are found not guilty doesn't necessarily mean you didn't do it, so by the letter of the law you are innocent, but guilty people have been found not guilty in the past and continue to do so.Yes it does in a civilised society
Is that Latin for O J Simpson and Oscar Pistorious?Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat.
Is that Latin for O J Simpson and Oscar Pistorious?
Yeah, but then I suppose the assumption could then be that 'not proven' means guilty, rather than possibly innocent in some people's eyes, that the public might well err on the side of guilty.The burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies.
Its the presumption of innocence. English common law is as screwed as a legal system can be. In Scotland by the way the jury has a third option of "not proven".
Yeah, but then I suppose the assumption could then be that 'not proven' means guilty, rather than possibly innocent in some people's eyes, that the public might well err on the side of guilty.
It's never going to be a perfect system is it. Sometimes people can get off because they have good lawyers, or through a technicality whereby forensics weren't gathered correctly, or procedures weren't followed.
There were acquittals in the initial Stephen Lawrence trial down to insufficient evidence, even though police were convinced of their guilt.
Never going to be a 100% full proof system is it unfortunately.
Well that was why I was asking. Haven't followed this trial as intently as some.in this case however - however much the police thought they were guilty, the evidence was worse than a game of cluedo. A complete waste of time
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