You claim (many) others have a blind anti-Sisu obsession (which is hardly surprising given they own us and have 'led' us to this) yet you never seem to acknowledge those (few) with 10,000+ posts like you, Grendel, Torch and Robo who obsessively post anti-ACL and anti-protest views. You somehow present them as 'balanced'.. when infact you obsess and post more than anyone else!
...and most people are more interested in Sisu because they own the club and are responsible for health and future (or should be).
I think that council tax protest is silly if that helps. I'm not saying everybody is one sided but when people say they care more about acl than bringing our club home it makes you think... a lot of the posts against the council never really seem AS ott as the anti sisu ones where they get blamed for random things. I have never that I remember agreed with much sisu have done as a lot of it doesn't even need to be said but when people think they are the only factor it gets frustrating as people care more about acl or the council than bringing the club home....
For example the player ratings thread earlier.
All the pressure so far is on SISU, we need to highlight there are two parties that need to come together and agree a deal. SISU and CCC need to talk again and will only be forced if they something us hurting them. For SISU it's money, for CCC it's political pressure......
If you want to pressure a councillor to sell the ricoh to Sisu fill your boots.
I personally think they are incompetent, untrustworthy, will be nothing but trouble and are after a cheap purchase at the expense of taxpayers- and the sale may not benefit the club in any case.
It also may benefit greatly, that is what we don't knowI think it would be hard not to be in a better position than when were were at the ricoh though.
It also may benefit greatly, that is what we don't knowI think it would be hard not to be in a better position than when were were at the ricoh though.
I'm glad you cant put 'we' when talking about Sisu :0)
The fact is they have proved unethical failures, cant be trusted and have burnt their bridges in Coventry. v.likely a diifferent story with new owners and a fresh start.
"That is what we don't know". I think we do know. If you would trust Shitzu with the freehold ownership of the Ricoh then fair enough but I think that there more intelligent posters on here that would argue the opposite.It also may benefit greatly, that is what we don't knowI think it would be hard not to be in a better position than when were were at the ricoh though.
"That is what we don't know". I think we do know. If you would trust Shitzu with the freehold ownership of the Ricoh then fair enough but I think that there more intelligent posters on here that would argue the opposite.
By that I mean even if sisu did own it we would at least get pie money.
SISU=we ?
Owning the freehold wouldn't get SISU the pie money. This is just an excuse to get the Ricoh on the cheap.
There is not a single solitary argument that can be put forward for sisu owning any part of the Ricoh Arena.
Since the fateful day their tenure as owners of CCFC began we have seen disaster follow disaster, All of our best players
sold and not replaced,Accounts not submitted on time for THREE consecutive years which resulted in transfer embargo's,
which meant we could not sign players in the close season,(mind you with sisu's record of actually paying money for players) we wouldn't have been signing any anyway.All of this followed by sisu engineering our relegation to league one,
and then choosing administration to get rid of a legally binding lease that they had signed,and trying to distress a Charity
by refusing to pay a miserable few grand that they rightly owed.And then taking OUR FOOTBALL CLUB to Play HOME games in Northampton being the final kick in the teeth for our supporters.
And still the tiny minority support them, TOTALLY INCREDIBLE.
Who is supporting them?
Who is supporting them?
the people who keep fighting shitsu's corner and throwing all their venom at ACL/CCC/Higgs instead of in the other direction.
i know ACL/CCC/Higgs aren't blameless but in comparison to shitsu it aint worth the effort at this moment in time. you don't step over a pound to pick up a penny, its as simple as that.
if shitsu had of put the same amount of effort into keeping the club in the city as they did into engineering a way out we would still be in Coventry, simple.
It also may benefit greatly, that is what we don't knowI think it would be hard not to be in a better position than when were were at the ricoh though.
There is not a single solitary argument that can be put forward for sisu owning any part of the Ricoh Arena.
Since the fateful day their tenure as owners of CCFC began we have seen disaster follow disaster, All of our best players
sold and not replaced,Accounts not submitted on time for THREE consecutive years which resulted in transfer embargo's,
which meant we could not sign players in the close season,(mind you with sisu's record of actually paying money for players) we wouldn't have been signing any anyway.All of this followed by sisu engineering our relegation to league one,
and then choosing administration to get rid of a legally binding lease that they had signed,and trying to distress a Charity
by refusing to pay a miserable few grand that they rightly owed.And then taking OUR FOOTBALL CLUB to Play HOME games in Northampton being the final kick in the teeth for our supporters.
And still the tiny minority support them, TOTALLY INCREDIBLE.
Nick, SISU have been in charge of CFCC long enough to see whether they are competent and whether they have the clubs best interests at heart. Their current track record shows that they are incompetent and do not give a Camel's hump about the team, surely you can see that.
There is not a single solitary argument that can be put forward for sisu owning any part of the Ricoh Arena.
Since the fateful day their tenure as owners of CCFC began we have seen disaster follow disaster, All of our best players
sold and not replaced,Accounts not submitted on time for THREE consecutive years which resulted in transfer embargo's,
which meant we could not sign players in the close season,(mind you with sisu's record of actually paying money for players) we wouldn't have been signing any anyway.All of this followed by sisu engineering our relegation to league one,
and then choosing administration to get rid of a legally binding lease that they had signed,and trying to distress a Charity
by refusing to pay a miserable few grand that they rightly owed.And then taking OUR FOOTBALL CLUB to Play HOME games in Northampton being the final kick in the teeth for our supporters.
And still the tiny minority support them, TOTALLY INCREDIBLE.
Why do people keep arguing that SISU didn't know what they were getting into. They saw the books before they took over, it was the temptation of getting their hands on the stadium and the surrounding that brought them here. Their own greed has brought their downfall as they haven't acquired the stadium at a snip like they were hoping. Their plan B of distressing ACL failed when the council outmanoeuvred them with refinancing the loan.Whilst much of what you have said is true, what you're missing is the reasoning behind all of the actions that you've pointed out. Firstly, players move on. We've always had players move on to bigger and better things. Be it Westwood to Sunderland, or Dublin to Villa. That's just football. As for the lease that was signed by SISU, well it was our previous owners who signed that lease, and it was SISU who took over the lease when purchasing the club. Had SISU really known the impact of that then I very much doubt they would have bought the club. And for that I'd point the finger at random and the early directors of SISU, people who are no longer associated with the management of our club. The Higgs charity had approved the sale of their share of the Ricoh to SISU which was then blocked by ACL so I'm not sure why you think they were being distressed? The whole administration process you could easily argue was initiated by ACL in an attempt to keep hold of their lease and force new owners. Which failed dramatically. And as a result, that lease has now been broken. And finally as owners of the football club, why would you then want to sign another lease with the Ricoh arena when they have shown nothing but contempt for the football club, using it as a cash cow for all these years.
These last few seasons we have focused on youth development, and bought in two much improved managers in robins and pressley. SISU created this mess, and now they're trying to fix it. The change in directors and improved choice of managers has shown this. Bringing the football club and the Ricoh (or a new ground) together makes the football club a much better proposition for future buyers and investors. So there is your one solitary agrument for allowing SISU own part of the Ricoh arena. Then they'll be out of the club for ever...
I don't think anyone is fighting SISUs corner. People can just see more than one side, etc
My point about that was that I'm sure even if sisu were to own it then the club would be better off in terms of less rent and profit share of pies etc than before when the club was renting from acl.
I can see the sense in the Ricoh and CCFC being under one ownership BUT not with Shitzu owning them both. I simply do not trust them. It has been suggested that a sale to them could go ahead with conditions such as they would not be allowed to separate the two entities. This is not possible on a sale of the freehold. It can be done on a leasehold estate BUT not on a freehold. If they were ever to get their grubby little hands on the freehold is their anyone on here who would trust them to do the right thing CCFC?
What they going to do Tony? Demolish the Ricoh and rebuild it in the Cayman Islands?
Don't you own the Cayman Islands Grendull?
Cochese said "The Higgs charity had approved the sale of their share of the Ricoh to SISU which was then blocked by ACL so I'm not sure why you think they were being distressed?"
No and no.
The Higgs Charity has at no point approved the sale of their shares to Sisu.
ACL cannot block sales of shares in ACL. I am afraid that you are confused.
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