olderskyblue
Well-Known Member
I think it needed all sides to just accept it and move on, hence the Country showing a united front. Would maybe have put us in better shape for the negotiations
Never happen of course, that's why i said "I wonder if"
it doesn't nullify anything, what you should have said is the tory party should show a united front, they'll be seeing us through the process, what every one else thinks is irrelevant,
Of course they won't because at least one of them and his supporters have their eye on number 10 and they'll do anything it takes to get there, the best interests of the country won't come into it.
You mean like Boris coming out with his view of Brexit as opposed to the government he belongs to
it doesn't nullify anything, what you should have said is the tory party should show a united front, they'll be seeing us through the process, what every one else thinks is irrelevant,
Of course they won't because at least one of them and his supporters have their eye on number 10 and they'll do anything it takes to get there, the best interests of the country won't come into it.
They will not agree as most of them love the Euro gravy train and don't want to leave.
The biggest laugh of the labour conference was the gullible idiotic youth waving Euro flags and being serenaded by Alistair Campbell with a set of bagpipes. I'm surprised the Euro Blair Monster didn't do a little dance as well.
The Macron dynasty will not be in charge for four centuries because of one vote in his favour.Should France have a new election as macron is now unpopular?
The Macron dynasty will not be in charge for four centuries because of one vote in his favour.
Momentum were out in huge numbers during the election on social media, spreading disinformation and bile. They have abated for now but I understand they are plotting further unrest via other means - not looking forward to finding out what it is.
Anyway, their line appeared to be that Corbyn and McDonnell are not Marxists but moderates, supporting Social Democracy. This video clip exposes the lies - and also shows that McDonnell was looking forward for years for an economic disaster - what a horrible man.
More Labour madness....
More Labour madness....
More Labour madness....
To say half of kids in a classroom suffer from a mental health issue is sick to be honest. People with MH problems need to be properly recognised, assessed and treated - not have idiots like this use it as a bandwaggon trying to score points.More Labour madness....
The Face of Labour,You couldn't make it up!!To say half of kids in a classroom suffer from a mental health issue is sick to be honest. People with MH problems need to be properly recognised, assessed and treated - not have idiots like this use it as a bandwaggon trying to score points.
And yet in the latest poll, 42% said they would vote for them.
The youth of today
More Labour madness....
To say half of kids in a classroom suffer from a mental health issue is sick to be honest. People with MH problems need to be properly recognised, assessed and treated - not have idiots like this use it as a bandwaggon trying to score points.
The person speaking in the vid?I see that his other Tweets are erm, interesting.
Transgenders are mentally ill? Black people are relacing the 'ingenious' population of London? White genocide?
It's hardly a surprise that a certain selection of posters spread these bigots' bile though.
Vile.
The person speaking in the vid?
The youth of today
Typical of the right, that.Young Tory activists send vile messages about 'gassing chavs' | Metro News
indeed - Young Tory activists send vile messages about 'gassing chavs' | Metro News
but only an idiot would thing that they in some way represent the whole of the tory party, no such common sense displayed by the Labour bashers!
Disappointed in this. We may be polar opposites politically, but I always had you down as one of the more sensible fasicts/toriesFar more than the youth; (guesses here): 2% revolutionary communists; 10% youth; 10% sounds great; 20% always voted Labour, always will. The Jews that left Germany in 1935 were wise.
Disappointed in this. We may be polar opposites politically, but I always had you down as one of the more sensible fasicts/torieson ths board.
I am not stupid, but I can get behind a social democratic manifesto as outlined by the Labour Party in the last election - a manifesto not far removed from policies run by a number of perfectly forward looking European (not EU!) economies. I can also believe that although a Keynesian model may have become unfashionable post Thatcher/Reagan and monetarism... it's the way to improve a country and economy. Hell, even the US under Obama commissioned capital projects to boost the economy.
On a more basic level, I also think that nationalisation of state industries is also fine. If it's railways, the cross-subsidisation of profitable routes to pay for the loss making ones seems far more sensible than allowing outside investors (often from foreign countries) to take the profits, whilst we have to subsidise the loss-making routes. I also believe it's better to subsidise jobs than pay for unemployment benefit - same cost, but more advantage to the economy. Furthermore, I consider it morally bankrupt for shareholders to profit from people having running water, sewage facilities, and electricity.
Does that put me in any of the above categories? Nope. It's as much as me suggesting all Tory voters are either old, posh, toffs, self-centred bigots, or mad.
Disappointed in this. We may be polar opposites politically, but I always had you down as one of the more sensible fasicts/torieson ths board.
I am not stupid, but I can get behind a social democratic manifesto as outlined by the Labour Party in the last election - a manifesto not far removed from policies run by a number of perfectly forward looking European (not EU!) economies. I can also believe that although a Keynesian model may have become unfashionable post Thatcher/Reagan and monetarism... it's the way to improve a country and economy. Hell, even the US under Obama commissioned capital projects to boost the economy.
On a more basic level, I also think that nationalisation of state industries is also fine. If it's railways, the cross-subsidisation of profitable routes to pay for the loss making ones seems far more sensible than allowing outside investors (often from foreign countries) to take the profits, whilst we have to subsidise the loss-making routes. I also believe it's better to subsidise jobs than pay for unemployment benefit - same cost, but more advantage to the economy. Furthermore, I consider it morally bankrupt for shareholders to profit from people having running water, sewage facilities, and electricity.
Does that put me in any of the above categories? Nope. It's as much as me suggesting all Tory voters are either old, posh, toffs, self-centred bigots, or mad.
Saw a documentary featuring this Mark Collett fella a few years back. The programme was about the BNP and I'm pretty sure the show concluded with Collett flouncing out of the party because they weren't right wing enough.More Labour madness....
Disappointed in this. We may be polar opposites politically, but I always had you down as one of the more sensible fasicts/torieson ths board.
I am not stupid, but I can get behind a social democratic manifesto as outlined by the Labour Party in the last election - a manifesto not far removed from policies run by a number of perfectly forward looking European (not EU!) economies. I can also believe that although a Keynesian model may have become unfashionable post Thatcher/Reagan and monetarism... it's the way to improve a country and economy. Hell, even the US under Obama commissioned capital projects to boost the economy.
On a more basic level, I also think that nationalisation of state industries is also fine. If it's railways, the cross-subsidisation of profitable routes to pay for the loss making ones seems far more sensible than allowing outside investors (often from foreign countries) to take the profits, whilst we have to subsidise the loss-making routes. I also believe it's better to subsidise jobs than pay for unemployment benefit - same cost, but more advantage to the economy. Furthermore, I consider it morally bankrupt for shareholders to profit from people having running water, sewage facilities, and electricity.
Does that put me in any of the above categories? Nope. It's as much as me suggesting all Tory voters are either old, posh, toffs, self-centred bigots, or mad.
When listening to the radio I bet your favourite programme is sounds of the 70's
Saw a documentary featuring this Mark Collett fella a few years back. The programme was about the BNP and I'm pretty sure the show concluded with Collett flouncing out of the party because they weren't right wing enough.
Just saying...
Think I saw that too. Loves hitler and hates homosexuals IIRC.
However by far the biggest reason for avoiding Labour like the plague is what they aren't saying in the manifesto but will do. They are dressing themselves up in sheeps' clothing but the ones with the power are Marxists, not matter how much they now refuse to answer the question when it is put to them. They will not only tax heavily but also seize capital with a wealth tax. I am absolutely petrified of them. I have always taken pride in paying my taxes and over the years I have paid an awful lot of it. However, I won't have the piss taken out of me; they will not take the money I have saved over 35 years of bloody long hours. I will not be alone in avoiding McDonnell's capital and tax raid - and that is why I wrote that the Jews that left in 1935 were wise. I won't be the only one - and that is why he won't get the cash he believes he will through taxation.
Spot on. I know for a fact that there are plenty who are already taking steps to safeguard their wealth from day one of a Labour election victory.
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