Cally Fedora
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We need 3 keepers. If 1 gets injured you have no one on the bench. From what I read we have decent prospects coming through but I’d be surprised if we were in a huge rush to jettison Collins or Wilson.
Can you link this vid as I can't seem to find it.
We really don't need 3 senior keepers at all. It's a complete waste at our level. Also there's no way one of Wilson or Collins will be happy not even making a match day squad.We need 3 keepers. If 1 gets injured you have no one on the bench. From what I read we have decent prospects coming through but I’d be surprised if we were in a huge rush to jettison Collins or Wilson.
Wilson plays aswell as he can, Collins doesn’t I’d be shocked if Collins ever played a first team game for cov againIn a minority then
A lot of the reviews I’m reading from Swedes are saying he’s not great at commanding the box or claims. Hopefully something we can coach.
While this is true in the main, if a keeper cant claim a cross or drops it regularly at the feet of fowards, they will be a liability. I am very excited about this singing and when @Saddlebrains posted a video of him way back apart from noticing his great shot stopping and distribution my only concern was his catching ability from a high ball, he genuinely looked hesitant. Hope this can be improved and he is still young. I am not sure if this is what the comments were aligned to but I would not call this command of the box and more a basic goalkeeping competency.Coaches aren’t as interested in a keeper’s command of the box. Teams cross the ball less and corners are still low % chances. To the modern game, ball progression is king and having a GK to play accurate passes to midfield players is the move.
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You said Wilson was better than Collins though. He isnt. In honesty neither of these will play many more games for us as thye will be back ups.Wilson plays aswell as he can, Collins doesn’t I’d be shocked if Collins ever played a first team game for cov again
An underbite and chin to rival Jimmy
While this is true in the main, if a keeper cant claim a cross or drops it regularly at the feet of fowards, they will be a liability. I am very excited about this singing and when @Saddlebrains posted a video of him way back apart from noticing his great shot stopping and distribution my only concern was his catching ability from a high ball, he genuinely looked hesitant. Hope this can be improved and he is still young. I am not sure if this is what the comments were aligned to but I would not call this command of the box and more a basic goalkeeping competency.
If we are running a tally mark me down for Wilson. I'm not sure where this view that Collins was brought in as an upgrade or as number 1 comes from. We didn't spend big to bring him in, it wasn't a big first team player buy like Simms/Wright/MvE or even Sakamoto.In a minority then
Then I question your judgement.If we are running a tally mark me down for Wilson. I'm not sure where this view that Collins was brought in as an upgrade or as number 1 comes from. We didn't spend big to bring him in, it wasn't a big first team player buy like Simms/Wright/MvE or even Sakamoto.
If you speak to fans of his former clubs they were shocked he came to us at all. Wilson was golden glove winner 22/23 and started the season in goal. He had a ropey spell so Robins took him out. He then returned him to the team a few weeks later. Some fans seemed shocked because Collins' stats were 'amazeballz' so why did Robins do it?
Because Wilson was his number one and because he didn't fancy Collins. People forget now but Collins was lucky to get away with a few in his first spell in goal. The end of the season was fairly representative of his career.
As soon as it became clear that Wilson wasn't cutting it as No1 we started courting Dovin. If you are asking me which is the better keeper - I'm going Wilson but both were brought in as no2s and will be fine for that role.
Go ahead mate. Doesn't bother me. Some people on this forum have always had a weird Collins fettish. Even before he'd kicked a ball some people that had never seen him play before had decided that Barnsley's number 2 was our saviour because clearly the club shared their distain for Wilson. Having followed his career on and off from FGR I'm not surprised we are where we are.Then I question your judgement.
I agree... but for God's sake it's fewer.Go ahead mate. Doesn't bother me. Some people on this forum have always had a weird Collins fettish. Even before he'd kicked a ball some people that had never seen him play before had decided that Barnsley's number 2 was our saviour because clearly the club shared their distain for Wilson. Having followed his career on and off from FGR I'm not surprised we are where we are.
Facts are we've gone out and bought a number 1 which tells you neither are good enough and I don't really care to argue about the no2. But in my view if Dovin had a sudden change of heart and Jarni'ed it my view is that Wilson would cost us less goals over the coming season and ultimately that is how I judge a keeper.
Dammit! FIFY.I agree... but for God's sake it's fewer.
Deliberately having 3 senior goalkeepers is madness and a complete waste of moneyall this talk is rubbish.
robins knows the new keeper is raw. he might not start straightaway.
robins is keeping collins and Wilson for competition.
Allen is going nowhere, he recently took on Simon Moore old house
Regarding goalkeeper, I am just hoping defence and keeper get an understanding, regardless of whether Dovin will "command his area" and come for crosses or not.
I think Wilson kept as many cleansheets as he did the season before last was because the defence knew they had to deal with balls into the area and Wilson will sweep behind.
Both Wilson and Collins are solid shot-stoppers, and hopefully Dovin will be too, but building the understanding with the four/five players in front of you, that's the most important aspect, I think.
Considering you don't want to argue over a number 2 that's quite the read...Go ahead mate. Doesn't bother me. Some people on this forum have always had a weird Collins fettish. Even before he'd kicked a ball some people that had never seen him play before had decided that Barnsley's number 2 was our saviour because clearly the club shared their distain for Wilson. Having followed his career on and off from FGR I'm not surprised we are where we are.
Facts are we've gone out and bought a number 1 which tells you neither are good enough and I don't really care to argue about the no2. But if Dovin had a sudden change of heart and Jarni'ed it my view is that Wilson would cost us fewer goals over the coming season and ultimately that is how I judge a keeper.
It turns out my cat was right.Btw; my cat predicts that Dovin will sign within the next week
The question is, would either be happy being third choice keeper?We need 3 keepers. If 1 gets injured you have no one on the bench. From what I read we have decent prospects coming through but I’d be surprised if we were in a huge rush to jettison Collins or Wilson.
Hasn’t Wilson apparently bought a new house in the area? He seems the sort that is happy to be a back up, to be honest, despite his ‘day in the sun’ during our play off season.The question is, would either be happy being third choice keeper?
I think Wilson will be on his way now Dovin has signed, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already got a club lined up and we were waiting for the Dovin deal to get done before allowing him to leave.
Time will tell.
My thinking takes into account that Wilson is in the last year of his contract, and shouldn't cost a lot (if anything) to sign.Hasn’t Wilson apparently bought a new house in the area? He seems the sort that is happy to be a back up, to be honest, despite his ‘day in the sun’ during our play off season.
Collins isn’t the all-round keeper we need, the type to save us crucial games and goals with strong, consistent decision making. Very good shot stopper, but as with a lot of modern keepers, the aerial ability and decisive actions are lacking.
Both him and Wilson should be satisfied with being back-ups in a team ‘on the up’, in my opinion.
Assuming of course, that Dovin is the chosen one, which, in all probability, is likely. I haven’t seen many poor keepers coming out of Sweden, to be honest - it’s a vague generalisation, but I can’t say I have.
This has got arms. I like it.Oliver's armies they make the saves
Oliver's armies are strong and brave
And he will never let anyone score
Past him today.
*Maybe second line should be Oliver Dovin is strong and brave
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That’s when you call on the emergency loanI don't get the 'we don't need 3 top keepers' comments. We had Moore, Wilson and Collins last season. One long injury spell and we are suddenly using cotton wool
I don't get the 'we don't need 3 top keepers' comments. We had Moore, Wilson and Collins last season. One long injury spell and we are suddenly using cotton wool
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