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clint van damme

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Is that a reflection on our goalkeeping coach?

I wouldn't know.
Obviously Marosi got that bad facial injury and Moore had some really serious personal issues by all accounts so maybe there's an element of bad luck but I wouldnt want to start with either of the current keepers as No 1.
 

skybluegod

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Yeah, been saying for a while and provided quotes from Clough and Ferguson on the importance of having a top keeper.
It's been a continuous issue for us for large spells since Robins returned and every time it looks like we might have sorted it the incumbent goes to shit.

You have compared us against managers though who are at top sides. The reality is that below that you don't need a top keeper and the cost/benefit isn't as beneficial as other positions. Of course a top keeper helps, but you can be successful with a mediocre keeper.

In fact as I keep saying with this argument there is a huge dearth of top keepers in football at the moment.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yeah, been saying for a while and provided quotes from Clough and Ferguson on the importance of having a top keeper.
It's been a continuous issue for us for large spells since Robins returned and every time it looks like we might have sorted it the incumbent goes to shit.
Rotherham had a top keeper, still went down by 20 odd points. Granted we can’t have a keeper who enjoys throwing it in his own goal but we’re still lacking strength in depth in a number of outfield positions.
 

skybluecam

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Absurd thing to say about the position with the single biggest influence and responsibility for preventing goals being conceded.
Not really. Spain won the Euros, I had to look up who their keeper was. Man City won the Prem, Ederson is not the best keeper in the league. Real Madrid won the CL with a backup playing for most of it.

The idea that you need a top keeper to succeed is a myth.
 

clint van damme

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Rotherham had a top keeper, still went down by 20 odd points. Granted we can’t have a keeper who enjoys throwing it in his own goal but we’re still lacking strength in depth in a number of outfield positions.

Don't disagree we're lacking elsewhere but for me, keeper is a priority.
And prime Buffon in goal wouldn't have kept Rotherham up.
 

thekidfromstrettoncamp

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They've now lost the scorers of 63 of the 68 goals they scored last season.
You cannot go into a season with that statistic hanging over you and expect to have a good one.To me I feel they will take so long to get used to their new possible scorers ways of playing the top half will be out of sight.
Watch them prove me wrong now.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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You cannot go into a season with that statistic hanging over you and expect to have a good one.To me I feel they will take so long to get used to their new possible scorers ways of playing the top half will be out of sight.
Watch them prove me wrong now.
Not just that - they play a thing called Tim ball or whatever it's called. It relies on being super fit and all out attack. They've lost most of their decent players, and any new/decent players will have to a) get used to the new system and b) get fit enough to play it (by all accounts it is an extreme style) &he other issue for them is that I assume Tim Walter's teams haven't had to play 50 odd matches (as per the Championship) so the Hull players my implode during the season - plus if it starts poorly, the mad owner may ditch him before it has any chance to succeed.
 

skybluegod

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Absurd thing to say about the position with the single biggest influence and responsibility for preventing goals being conceded.

Well done for taking the post completely out of context for everything that I said 👍

Why did we have the best defensive record in our history with Ben Wilson in goal? At the top level you need a top keeper like I have said. You don't need a top keeper to get promoted. As proven over the past however many years.
 

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