Samo
Well-Known Member
Some people love obsessing... If Joy took a piss it'd be the wrong colour!
But then acl called in other monies so if it turns out it is un related then the full amount will be paid surely? If it is related then why would they be paid twice? Is then down to the others to chase sisu for what they paid.
Don't think we need to worry too much as there will be no points deduction if the fl are happy it's been paid?
Some people are obsessing a bit aren't they?
Works both ways.
Why the fuck should CCC let SISU have what they want when they are still using litigation against them?
If it wasn't our football club being held to ransom I would want CCC to tell SISU to go get fucked and build themselves a new stadium.
Which is exactly what the open letter says.
They don't want revenues from a temporary deal, they want a temporary deal until they build a new stadium where they can get revenues.
So why put non-eistent obstacles in the way? Hasn't everyone banged on endlessly they should talk to each other? Well, as of now, we have Seppala, Fisher, and Lucas all prepared to talk.
But not ACL.
Some people love obsessing... If Joy took a piss it'd be the wrong colour!
Non existent obstacles?
So constant litigation is just a non existent obstacle now. I suppose you would see it the same if you was the one on the receiving end of it.
Just like you were insinuating that I am racist a few days ago. You said that you could tell because of the way I post.
The FL has already stated how much ACL should get. The amount they set may have been derived from the administrator but it was a separate agreement.
SISU are trying to muddy the waters by dragging in other monies that are not relevant. The administration process can only take into account funds that are within the control of the administrator and ACL are entitled to obtain payment of their debt by other means if they can. The guarantor money for example.
Will the FL have the nerve to insist that SISU honour the agreement that they made in order to secure the Golden Share? I'm hoping that the delay is merely because officials have received a complaint from SISU and want to pass the buck up the chain of command.
I don't think I said that now did I? We cud discuss it but Nick will close the thread. However, if I did go a little far on that occassion Astute, I apologise.
I'd suggest the b4est way to eliminate litigation is to talk to people.
Not talking is the surefire way to ensure it continues.
Non-existent.
I can't believe what I read here, it's like people are determined to find excuses for parties not to talk. The council leader is happy to talk... so why not back her in that aim?
They have said that they will talk if the 590k is paid and the litigation stops. What is wrong with what I said with the litigation stopping and an agreement that any overpayment is returned? Or are you either looking for an excuse on behalf of SISU or getting ready to blame CCC if SUSU don't bring our club home?
I don't think I said that now did I? We cud discuss it but Nick will close the thread. However, if I did go a little far on that occassion Astute, I apologise.
I'd suggest the b4est way to eliminate litigation is to talk to people.
Not talking is the surefire way to ensure it continues.
Non-existent.
I can't believe what I read here, it's like people are determined to find excuses for parties not to talk. The council leader is happy to talk... so why not back her in that aim?
So are you saying the money mcginnity and Robinson gave ACL had nothing to with rent?
Bizarre post.
But like Fisher the council leader has no say in this?
Or should I say cannot make the decisions.
Nope, I'm wondering why after an eternity of wanting sides to talk, now they don't.
Now given I said Lucas was happy to talk and wondered if you were going to back that, I find it slightly confusing you appear to think I'm preparing to blame CCC...
If indeed it was to do with rent I believe that confirms that it is irrelevant to SISU 's debt. The receiver stating the proportion of the debt that he is able to pay does not reduce the debt to that level. If ACL pursue a guarantor for all or part of the outstanding debt that is their concern as the guarantor contracts with them not the creditor or the receiver. The point in having a guarantor is to recover debt that the original creditor cannot pay.So are you saying the money mcginnity and Robinson gave ACL had nothing to with rent?
Bizarre post.
So as mentioned later, it won't be her fault if talks don't happen, will it.
It'll be one company playing out a business decision v another company playing out a business decision.
Now when we met Mr. Labovitch he was keen to bang on about how he was all for a temporary deal at the Ricoh, and it was others who refused to talk about that. How we laughed.
And now's the chance to prove him wrong.
Don't we want to prove him wrong and laugh at him some more? Don't we want to demonstrate that when he said that it wasn't true, and this could have been solved earlier over a pint of Tribute down Whitefriars?
Some seem to think that everything has changed now that SISU made that statement. But nothing has changed yet. A statement that was unusual for SISU, but also made a day before a march. And we all know that some will try and blame CCC if our club don't come home.
So as mentioned later, it won't be her fault if talks don't happen, will it.
It'll be one company playing out a business decision v another company playing out a business decision.
Now when we met Mr. Labovitch he was keen to bang on about how he was all for a temporary deal at the Ricoh, and it was others who refused to talk about that. How we laughed.
And now's the chance to prove him wrong.
Don't we want to prove him wrong and laugh at him some more? Don't we want to demonstrate that when he said that it wasn't true, and this could have been solved earlier over a pint of Tribute down Whitefriars?
So sorry for being sceptical but we have been given too many false promises that I cannot believe anything until it happens.
If indeed it was to do with rent I believe that confirms that it is irrelevant to SISU 's debt. The receiver stating the proportion of the debt that he is able to pay does not reduce the debt to that level. If ACL pursue a guarantor for all or part of the outstanding debt that is their concern as the guarantor contracts with them not the creditor or the receiver. The point in having a guarantor is to recover debt that the original creditor cannot pay.
Absolutely nothing wrong with being sceptical and not believing it until you see it.
Totally different that however, to trying to put obstacles in front of talks.
So are you going to back Anne Lucas in her desire for talks without prejudice, on anything if the club want to talk about it?
Are you saying that the agreement with the FL and SISU was only about the rent?
Bizarre poster.
Absolutely nothing wrong with being sceptical and not believing it until you see it.
Totally different that however, to trying to put obstacles in front of talks.
Litigation can stop upon a deal being agreed surely.
I.e we will agree a 3 year deal if you drop appeal.
So are you going to back Anne Lucas in her desire for talks without prejudice, on anything if the club want to talk about it?
So are you saying that CCC should come to an agreement with SISU when there is still litigation ongoing against them?
Certainly a good reason not to have trust in them. Just like everything else that they have done.
You have this all arse over tit.
Aren't the litigation & refusal to pay what was agreed the obstacles?
Exactly. But some seem to think that it isn't a problem.
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The money is said to be there. One call could stop the litigation. If SISU wanted to make a deal they could sort their side out easily.
Now you are being silly again, of course not. Legals should be dropped as part of the negotiations, way before any agreement is reached. I can't imagine why you say these things?
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