If you have to be proven at any level before being given a chance, no-one progresses, ever, in any field of sport or work.
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But how many of these players have already played in league 1? The majority and they are just not good enough. Look at wilson he left and progressed as we knew he would but he looked a class act for us. We haven't got anyone close to that. Maddison could be too much pressure on literally small shoulders
JOB, Swanson, Tudgay, Vincelot.... just for starters
From last season alone Swanson proven? Very questionable
JOB proven? Works hard but wouldn't say he set the world alight for us
Vincelot - relegated with orient so that's questionable and Tudgay maybe 4 years ago but now?
You say for starters who else? Face it, we haven't got enough quality in a squad which shows by our league position last year. We will need vast improvement which I haven't seen so far. Too many fans judgement is clouded by TM appointment. He's not a miracle worker
From last season alone Swanson proven? Very questionable
JOB proven? Works hard but wouldn't say he set the world alight for us
Vincelot - relegated with orient so that's questionable and Tudgay maybe 4 years ago but now?
You say for starters who else? Face it, we haven't got enough quality in a squad which shows by our league position last year. We will need vast improvement which I haven't seen so far. Too many fans judgement is clouded by TM appointment. He's not a miracle worker
I would love to be wrong but we will be battling relegation this year again. Say what you want but there is no proof otherwise.
We have a squad the same as last year and no massive exciting new players so it's quite obvious TM job is to keep us up this season. I would take it now if you offered me staying up.
Would anyone else?
Swanson played for Peterborough for 2 years in the championship and league 1.
Vincelot was one of Orients best player the year they finished in the play offs, in fact his injury last season where he missed the last two months of the season is recognised by Orient fans as one of the major reasons why they were relegated.
O'Brien done ok last year, I'm not a massive fan of his but he was probably our best player last year excluding loans. He's decent at this level, not top class but above average.
The season hasn't even started yet, fair enough preseason is debatable but it's design to sort out differences and get match fit, tm hasn't finished in the market, just hold on tight it is gonna be a bumpy ride I hav faith in our manager, its not gonna happen straight away but wiv abit of a chill pill it will work given time. Just giv the team the backin and support it needs and tomorrow will be sky blue. Looking forward to next Saturday to see us bang in a 2-1 win. PUSB.
But that doesn't mean all our players are shit does it? We have weak areas but we don't need 22 new players.Swanson played for p'boro but what did he actually do? If he was that good p'boro would have kept hold of him. Orient were bottom 4 all season not just march onwards. O'brien works hard but isn't really a player who we could rely on to get us out of trouble. Why can't you see this team of ours is not good enough at the minute
So, whats your judgement on where we'll finish then? And how do you work it out?I wish people would actually look what we are up against in this league. Actually take the time to look at the other teams and then make a judgement.
So, whats your judgement on where we'll finish then? And how do you work it out?
Absolutely fucking not!
With our lack of attacking options, would anyone have had Proswchitz back? I know he signed for a German team but with our fans were so against it when he was suggested to come back, but now I reckon the majority would want to have him back.
With our lack of attacking options, would anyone have had Proswchitz back? I know he signed for a German team but with our fans were so against it when he was suggested to come back, but now I reckon the majority would want to have him back.
I would have him back in a heartbeat. The man had some presence and was at least a man. Today we had 2 teenagers up front. Both under 6 ft and didn't create a thing all afternoon even with their talent. Says it all. We badly need some muscle AND height. Bullied by a league 2 lower side.
Would you have him back STP?
Right now if you're offering me him? Yeah probably. That probably reflects more on our attacking attacking options than his ability though.I would have him back in a heartbeat. The man had some presence and was at least a man. Today we had 2 teenagers up front. Both under 6 ft and didn't create a thing all afternoon even with their talent. Says it all. We badly need some muscle AND height. Bullied by a league 2 lower side.
Would you have him back STP?
To achieve promotion you need to be scoring 65 goals minimum. With the best will in the world, where and from whom are these goals coming?
Open your eyes and try and see things rationally. What have you seen so far? Are you happy with the results in pre season? (If you've seen any). Do you think that we're in a good position to challenge for a top 6 place? Do you believe that our few signings are going to make a big difference to what we had last season? Do you believe that the squad is big enough to cope with the straines of a season ie suspensions and injuries? Are you of the opinion that our goalkeepers are adequate to perform good enough to keep out the threats from opposition attackers? Will our strikers be able to score enough goals to give us 3 points?
Be honest and rational with your response or just don't bother.
Explain your question of drama. I'm not advocating drama at all I'm just asking you to substantiate your blind faith. It's not a bad thing to always feel optimistic and I've felt that way too many times to remember, but blind faith and rationality are miles apart. Fair play to you for the optimism but this is my 53rd season and I'm looking at this season from a realistic point of view and it's not looking good. PUSB.No I am not happy with pre-season results... but they are only that. Signings so far are ok; reasonable. Top 6 place: Not yet but recruitment is not yet over. Yes I would like an experienced keeper but we don't always get what we want. We don't yet know who are strikers will be so let's just reserve judgement. Or do you prefer a drama?
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