I would think that the pitch is “the playing area” hence entering “the playing area” (which Palmer entered and ran across without the Referees permission) which doesn’t apply if officials/substitutes run down the same side of the pitch to celebrate-ie they then haven’t entered “the playing area” without the Referees permission.
Agreed, but as has been pointed out players and managers frequently enter the playing part of the pitch during games and aren’t booked. Sometimes even during play!
He clearly wasn't thinking it through, but who would in that situation? I am sure so many would have done the exact same thing. Caught up in the moment. And what a moment it was.
Others have said that, but considering what Palmer has been through and the shit he has had to put up with of late, I do think it's wrong to compare. And besides, everyone is different.
He will.
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Do refs actually get a bollcking? I had a mate who officiated up to championship level and I’m sure he told me they get no grief just a report from the assessor and the assessor doesn’t even look back at video evidence. This was a few years back though, may have changed.He will.
The VAR will likely be invited to give his thoughts too as it really should have been a red card. He will argue he only thought it worthy of a yellow but that's incorrect.
How did Semedo escape a red card, and why was West Ham's winner disallowed?
Should Nélson Semedo have been sent off for Wolves? Why did it take so long to disallow West Ham United's "winner" against Aston Villa?
Why would a law that applies to 'a player who leaves the field of play to correct or change equipment' apply in Palmers situation?
But the laws you have posted say you are incorrect? There is nothing in them that says it is any different from the other players who entered the pitch on the same side as the dug outs? So if it is a mandatory sanction then why were the others not booked as well?
He did.
Yes, but a big difference though. Robins' incident was in front of a child. Celebrating in his face.
Yes, but a big difference though. Robins' incident was in front of a child. Celebrating in his face.
It's made the back page of papers.
Palmer was celebrating a goal with his teammates. Massive difference.
I can't and won't criticise Palmer for what he did.
And anyway, an awful lots of posters (you included) don't really want him in the team anyway
I also simply do not get the Lati/Eccles argument at all either
It's the same argument of Simms not celebrating enough when he scores compared to other players.
They are all individuals.
Palmer got carried away and I don't blame him one bit.
Most people seem to believe O'Hare is so much better and wanted him from the start in Saturday. So many don't think Palmer is good enough.
Looks now like it will be O'Hare for Man U. Surely that's a good thing isn't it?
No, but I am not in that camp. I haven't asked for leniency on the yellow card.
Read the bit in bold-nothing to do with equipment etc in Palmers case.
Look, I don’t make the Laws etc-I’m just telling you why the sanction was carried out in this situation. You (and others) are trying to imply that any body (coaches/players etc) who steps 10mm over the touchline on their side of the pitch should be cautioned for “entering the field of play without the Referees permission”. Let’s not be silly and pretend that
You don't make rules but you haven't also explained where in the laws as provided by you there is no difference in jumping 2ft on the pitch and 50ft. No one is talking about 10mm.
Correct. He was a “Player who entered the field of play without the Referees permission” though so was cautioned.
I can't really agree with you on this one. If you're not playing you can't run across the pitch during the match, which is surely obvious from schoolboy level upwards. KP has put himself out of this big game, which is sad for him and bad for the team.He clearly wasn't thinking it through, but who would in that situation? I am sure so many would have done the exact same thing. Caught up in the moment. And what a moment it was.
Happens often after big games though?
Can you tell me where if it is a mandatory sanction the laws state it is not a yellow card if they only transgress slightly?
I have, is that not quoted from Law 4 - The Players Equipment?
Laws are provided by IFAB not by me-I’m just quoting the Laws that apply in that situation and you seem to think I have some magic wand to make them fairer-I don’t.
You have to have the context, Calista.
It wasn't after the game?
I think the key word there is “after”.
Ok, once again I have not questioned the laws I have only asked why if you state they result in a mandatory sanction are they not applied to all people who transgress.
Yes that can be an example or Law 3 The players-I have, is that not quoted from Law 4 - The Players Equipment?
