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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #281
GIMOC said:
pato wants 7k a week

Cov refusing to offer that

he was on 15k in America
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33 year old with no club who’s turned us down before a couple of times?

He can come on our turns or fuck off to Wrexham or Birmingham, they’re probably his target market
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #282
I dont even know what the going rate is nowadays.

It also depends on the length of contract he's being offered. Is it until the end of the season to prove himself for something next season?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #283
Ccfcisparks said:
For someone who hasn’t played in 6 months and is 33 yeah it is you fool
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when our top earners are on what, 25k? It really isn't. 7k would presumably be on the very low end of the senior players, and Paterson was actually very decent last season. Presumably we're only offering a contract to the end of the season too, so he's got 0 security there.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #284
skybluecam said:
when our top earners are on what, 25k? It really isn't. 7k would presumably be on the very low end of the senior players, and Paterson was actually very decent last season. Presumably we're only offering a contract to the end of the season too, so he's got 0 security there.
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He’s not even gonna be fit. We are gonna be paying him those wages until he is actually up to speed and an asset for us. You are presuming anyway without any actual knowledge of what our players are on
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #285
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
33 year old with no club who’s turned us down before a couple of times?

He can come on our turns or fuck off to Wrexham or Birmingham, they’re probably his target market
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Or Salford or mk dons
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #286
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s not even gonna be fit. We are gonna be paying him those wages until he is actually up to speed and an asset for us. You are presuming anyway without any actual knowledge of what our players are on
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You don't know either yet you're calling 7k ridiculous.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #287
skybluecam said:
You don't know either yet you're calling 7k ridiculous.
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It’s ridiculous given he won’t be match fit for a month.

I’m ok with a small starting wage, and big appearance bonuses.

he’s messed us around before. Now he’s scratting around on 0 a week, he’s crawling back to try and get into a relevant league.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #288
skybluecam said:
You don't know either yet you're calling 7k ridiculous.
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It is ridiculous. He should be on an incentive based deal whilst he gets up to speed.
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #289
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
It’s ridiculous given he won’t be match fit for a month.

I’m ok with a small starting wage, and big appearance bonuses.

he’s messed us around before. Now he’s scratting around on 0 a week, he’s crawling back to try and get into a relevant league.
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Exactly this. At his stage of fitness it should be incentives based
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #290
GIMOC said:
he was on 15k in America
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This is demonstrably untrue - MLS salaries are all published every year as part of the players' union agreement with the league. Paterson was on $534,000 a year, which works out at roughly £8,400 a week. £7k would be a pay cut.

MLS Players Salary Guide | MLS Players Association

Every year the MLS Player Association releases our annual salary guide, listing each player in the MLS along with their current salary. We see this transparency as an extremely important part of our mission to support and protect the player community.
mlsplayers.org
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #291
SBT said:
This is demonstrably untrue - MLS salaries are all published every year as part of the players' union agreement with the league. Paterson was on $534,000 a year, which works out at roughly £8,400 a week. £7k would be a pay cut.

MLS Players Salary Guide | MLS Players Association

Every year the MLS Player Association releases our annual salary guide, listing each player in the MLS along with their current salary. We see this transparency as an extremely important part of our mission to support and protect the player community.
mlsplayers.org
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Yet he still gets the whole forum arguing over his bollocks. People just need to let it play out.
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #292
SBT said:
This is demonstrably untrue - MLS salaries are all published every year as part of the players' union agreement with the league. Paterson was on $534,000 a year, which works out at roughly £8,400 a week. £7k would be a pay cut.

MLS Players Salary Guide | MLS Players Association

Every year the MLS Player Association releases our annual salary guide, listing each player in the MLS along with their current salary. We see this transparency as an extremely important part of our mission to support and protect the player community.
mlsplayers.org
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tbf he was only there 6 months, so if that $534k figure was just for the 6 months it would work out around 15k a week
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #293
SBT said:
This is demonstrably untrue - MLS salaries are all published every year as part of the players' union agreement with the league. Paterson was on $534,000 a year, which works out at roughly £8,400 a week. £7k would be a pay cut.

MLS Players Salary Guide | MLS Players Association

Every year the MLS Player Association releases our annual salary guide, listing each player in the MLS along with their current salary. We see this transparency as an extremely important part of our mission to support and protect the player community.
mlsplayers.org
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Ffs
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #294
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
It’s ridiculous given he won’t be match fit for a month.

I’m ok with a small starting wage, and big appearance bonuses.

he’s messed us around before. Now he’s scratting around on 0 a week, he’s crawling back to try and get into a relevant league.
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Ccfcisparks said:
It is ridiculous. He should be on an incentive based deal whilst he gets up to speed.
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I don't know why people pretend he's some bum, he played loads last year and had a pretty good goal/assist return.

I don't think we're getting a better player than him on a free in Jan for less than 7k a week.
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #295
skybluecam said:
tbf he was only there 6 months, so if that $534k figure was just for the 6 months it would work out around 15k a week
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Did you miss the bit where it says it’s annualised?
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #296
skybluecam said:
I don't know why people pretend he's some bum, he played loads last year and had a pretty good goal/assist return.

I don't think we're getting a better player than him on a free in Jan for less than 7k a week.
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He hasn’t played for 6 months and won’t be fit I’m not sure what you don’t get
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #297
skybluecam said:
tbf he was only there 6 months, so if that $534k figure was just for the 6 months it would work out around 15k a week
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The numbers are annualised
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #298
skybluecam said:
I don't know why people pretend he's some bum, he played loads last year and had a pretty good goal/assist return.

I don't think we're getting a better player than him on a free in Jan for less than 7k a week.
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He’s not a crap player and if we were having him from Swansea or pre season I’d bite you hand off but right now? Is he even going to be fit to play a game and impact it.

Offering a lower deal with conditions that improve the wage up and give him a year is more than reasonable imo
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #299
Even putting him on a contract where he earns half his 7k until he plays 270 minutes worth of games then it doubles.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #300
Ccfcisparks said:
He hasn’t played for 6 months and won’t be fit I’m not sure what you don’t get
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If he's not fit I wouldn't sign him tbh. It's possible to stay fit without playing. That's presumably something we've been assessing while he's been training.

Just from his perspective, he's 33. Should still have a few years left in him, but not loads. Would it be worth risking injury playing for relative peanuts on a 4 month contract?

7k till June is only like £120k. Drop in the ocean really, less than the difference between us winning or losing that cup shootout.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #301
Ccfcisparks said:
Even putting him on a contract where he earns half his 7k until he plays 270 minutes worth of games then it doubles.
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I just don’t see the point, it’s unlikely he’ll be here next year so why don’t we focus on other areas.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #302
skybluecam said:
If he's not fit I wouldn't sign him tbh. It's possible to stay fit without playing. That's presumably something we've been assessing while he's been training.

Just from his perspective, he's 33. Should still have a few years left in him, but not loads. Would it be worth risking injury playing for relative peanuts on a 4 month contract?

7k till June is only like £120k. Drop in the ocean really, less than the difference between us winning or losing that cup shootout.
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You can’t keep championship match fit without playing any sort of matches or on a treadmill
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #303
skybluecam said:
If he's not fit I wouldn't sign him tbh. It's possible to stay fit without playing. That's presumably something we've been assessing while he's been training.

Just from his perspective, he's 33. Should still have a few years left in him, but not loads. Would it be worth risking injury playing for relative peanuts on a 4 month contract?

7k till June is only like £120k. Drop in the ocean really, less than the difference between us winning or losing that cup shootout.
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Difference though between fitness and match fitness
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #304
skybluecam said:
It's possible to stay fit without playing.
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The 11th best team in Major League Soccer evidently disagreed
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #305
Ccfcisparks said:
And that is why us sensible folk are saying it’s a ridiculous signing.

those are crazy wages for somebody who’s played 45 minutes in 6 months
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Cov through and through
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #306
SBT said:
The 11th best team in Major League Soccer evidently disagreed
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Have they said he had an issue with fitness?
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #307
Nick said:
Have they said he had an issue with fitness?
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I would suggest the fact they only gave him 44 minutes of playing time suggests they thought he did, yes

Either that or he wasn't very good
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #308
Time to accept we’re signing nobody this window and will be going with what we’ve got, get haji, sheaf and Emc back asap
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #309
The arguments over this one surprise me. I mean they shouldn't as its SBT, but still.
We either don't sign him and he's just been training with us.
Or we sign him on a short term contract that suits us because we've seen him training and think he's still got something to offer.
Seriously, who gives a fuck either way?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #310
SBT said:
I would suggest the fact they only gave him 44 minutes of playing time suggests they thought he did, yes

Either that or he wasn't very good
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So you have no idea

They only played 12 games while he was there, you can hardly read much into it.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #311
skybluecam said:
So you have no idea

They only played 12 games while he was there, you can hardly read much into it.
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Not really a lot of time to settle into a new country. I'd sooner trust the judgement of our staff having seen him train than read anything into that.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #312
Sky Blue Goblin said:
You see this is the issue isn’t it. He was apparently signed and done but now turns out he hasn’t even agreed wages with us
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Don’t believe everything you see on the internet, especially Coventry ‘itks’
 
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FergieTheFinisher

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #313
Jeez £7k a week or £360k a year is not a lot for a professional footballer in the championship. I can’t imagine many, apart from our youngsters, are on less than this.

Not to mention the shorter the contract typically the higher the rate.

This really is not a lot for a half season deal.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #314
skybluecam said:
So you have no idea

They only played 12 games while he was there, you can hardly read much into it.
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He was one of the highest earners at the club and played more for the reserves than he did in MLS. He hasn't played a single minute of match football in three and a half months. At the very least you can read into it that his career has stalled and he has a mountain to climb in terms of fitness - he's in need of a full pre-season.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #315
SBT said:
He was one of the highest earners at the club and played more for the reserves than he did in MLS. He hasn't played a single minute of match football in three and a half months. At the very least you can read into it that his career has stalled and he has a mountain to climb in terms of fitness - he's in need of a full pre-season.
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His fitness could be at any level, you have no idea?

If he's been training with us for a week then the staff will have a good idea though.
 
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