He was poor first half, didn’t know where to run, playing RB not RWB, leaving his man in space and not getting tackles in, missing easy passes, not beating men, a few poor crosses and that terrible shot. He’s also just not very lovable is he?
Got a lot better and showed why we signed him second half. The idea Dabo won’t get in ahead of him is laughable though. Dabs is a different level.
Absolute rubbish.He was poor first half, didn’t know where to run, playing RB not RWB, leaving his man in space and not getting tackles in, missing easy passes, not beating men, a few poor crosses and that terrible shot. He’s also just not very lovable is he?
Absolute rubbish.
don't agree with that at all, he wasn't that bad first half and he's getting better every half he plays.
As for not being lovable, people have probably based that on what went on at QPR, as long as there's no repeat here then there's no issue for me.
I agree about him getting in ahead of Dabo but as I said on another thread, Dabos absence isn't now the crisis it once was.
Nah he just comes off as a bit of a prick, nothing to do with QPR, just both in interviews and on the pitch he’s a bit of a nob.
He’s a decent backup and in some games offers a change to Dabo. I finally saw something that once he’s up to speed with how we play he’ll be an asset. First half he wasn’t playing people in, seemed to get his head down and run into dead ends rather than look up and keep possession. His crossing when it’s good is much better than Dabos, but so is Dacostas, it’s consistency. I have the same issue with Maatsen though, silly floated balls to no one. Kane’s got about ten times the assists compared to Dabo over his career so I’m sure it’s just rustiness in his case. Question is can he shake that off if he’s not a regular starter. Dabo fits the team so much better at the moment for me, much smarter passing, drives past players better, better defensively, just the end product. If we could stick Kane’s in be product on Dabo we’d have one hell of a WB.
Nah he just comes off as a bit of a prick, nothing to do with QPR, just both in interviews and on the pitch he’s a bit of a nob.
He’s a decent backup and in some games offers a change to Dabo. I finally saw something that once he’s up to speed with how we play he’ll be an asset. First half he wasn’t playing people in, seemed to get his head down and run into dead ends rather than look up and keep possession. His crossing when it’s good is much better than Dabos, but so is Dacostas, it’s consistency. I have the same issue with Maatsen though, silly floated balls to no one. Kane’s got about ten times the assists compared to Dabo over his career so I’m sure it’s just rustiness in his case. Question is can he shake that off if he’s not a regular starter. Dabo fits the team so much better at the moment for me, much smarter passing, drives past players better, better defensively, just the end product. If we could stick Kane’s end product on Dabo we’d have one hell of a WB.
Before Millwall he hadn’t started since March. Dabo’s moment of madness is the only reason he’s starting despite not being up to speed. You do seem quick to write players off I think.
He did play people in?
Nah he just comes off as a bit of a prick, nothing to do with QPR, just both in interviews and on the pitch he’s a bit of a nob.
He’s a decent backup and in some games offers a change to Dabo. I finally saw something that once he’s up to speed with how we play he’ll be an asset. First half he wasn’t playing people in, seemed to get his head down and run into dead ends rather than look up and keep possession. His crossing when it’s good is much better than Dabos, but so is Dacostas, it’s consistency. I have the same issue with Maatsen though, silly floated balls to no one. Kane’s got about ten times the assists compared to Dabo over his career so I’m sure it’s just rustiness in his case. Question is can he shake that off if he’s not a regular starter. Dabo fits the team so much better at the moment for me, much smarter passing, drives past players better, better defensively, just the end product. If we could stick Kane’s end product on Dabo we’d have one hell of a WB.
Who says I’ve written anyone off?
There’s this weird thing on here where if you’re not saying someone is perfect every game you think they should be on the scrap heap.
You are shite at rating wing backs. Treat it like a video game.Nah he just comes off as a bit of a prick, nothing to do with QPR, just both in interviews and on the pitch he’s a bit of a nob.
He’s a decent backup and in some games offers a change to Dabo. I finally saw something that once he’s up to speed with how we play he’ll be an asset. First half he wasn’t playing people in, seemed to get his head down and run into dead ends rather than look up and keep possession. His crossing when it’s good is much better than Dabos, but so is Dacostas, it’s consistency. I have the same issue with Maatsen though, silly floated balls to no one. Kane’s got about ten times the assists compared to Dabo over his career so I’m sure it’s just rustiness in his case. Question is can he shake that off if he’s not a regular starter. Dabo fits the team so much better at the moment for me, much smarter passing, drives past players better, better defensively, just the end product. If we could stick Kane’s end product on Dabo we’d have one hell of a WB.
Where did this happen? I think I know, just want confirmation!Not first half there were a few times when an easy ball inside was on and he ignored it and didn’t get anywhere.
I know that sentiment pretty well myself. But with Waghorn, Moore and Kane it felt like you had already decided they’d be crap before they’d played. In all 3 cases they were rusty on arrival so can’t be properly judged till that’s shaken off.
Where did this happen? I think I know, just want confirmation!
You mean, in the RWB position, in their half?Funnily enough on the right wing?
The first goal was superb, from our own corner to having 6 players in the opposition box in seconds, this is the difference
All started crap
There’s some on here that only ever say every player is brilliant then act like geniuses and start throwing abuse around when they have a good game.
When a player is crap I’ll say they’re crap, when they’re good I’ll say they’re good. I don’t hold grudges and I’m not a simpleton that has to say every players brilliant like I’m a JSB in his first season. Just call things how I see em.
My point is you have to wait before making that judgment. There’s a difference between saying someone had a poor game and recognising that they’re not fully up to speed yet so allow them to do that before criticising their efforts.
The magnificent Dabo being a moron against Cardiff has made us start someone who isn’t fully match sharp and has just got through the door.
Dont get this sorry.
If a player plays badly just come on an post “can’t mention that I’m sure they’ll get better” for what? Their first ten games?
Sometimes established decent players have a stinker too, how many free pass games does a player get exactly?
I’ll just stick with: player plays well I’ll say they played well player plays badly I’ll say they played badly I think. Seems a lot easier.
Not very good at judging potential then, just current performance.All started crap
There’s some on here that only ever say every player is brilliant then act like geniuses and start throwing abuse around when they have a good game.
When a player is crap I’ll say they’re crap, when they’re good I’ll say they’re good. I don’t hold grudges and I’m not a simpleton that has to say every players brilliant like I’m a JSB in his first season. Just call things how I see em.
But if everything’s so black and white, expect to get called out on it when many disagree.Dont get this sorry.
If a player plays badly just come on an post “can’t mention that I’m sure they’ll get better” for what? Their first ten games?
Sometimes established decent players have a stinker too, how many free pass games does a player get exactly?
I’ll just stick with: player plays well I’ll say they played well player plays badly I’ll say they played badly I think. Seems a lot easier.
Anyway, if you read my posts where apparently I was lagging Kane off I said “I’m not saying he won’t get better it takes a lot of players time to get to our level, just he was awful there”.
Just another run away SBT meme this.
Stop it Shmmeee you’re just embarrassing yourself at this point
Waghorn was pretty poor first 3 games. I said as much but also said he looked like he was carrying a lot of rust and hadn’t given up on him improving once that was gone.
I haven’t said Kane was brilliant either, the shot was comical and yes he showed some hesitation first half in advanced areas. But he arrived on deadline day having been in the QPR bomb squad for 6 months, so I get why he isn’t all there yet.
Whereas you described him as ‘awful’ at Millwall which to me just beggared belief
Not sure if your first sentence is allowing you to be objective here Shmmeee?Nah he just comes off as a bit of a prick, nothing to do with QPR, just both in interviews and on the pitch he’s a bit of a nob.
He’s a decent backup and in some games offers a change to Dabo. I finally saw something that once he’s up to speed with how we play he’ll be an asset. First half he wasn’t playing people in, seemed to get his head down and run into dead ends rather than look up and keep possession. His crossing when it’s good is much better than Dabos, but so is Dacostas, it’s consistency. I have the same issue with Maatsen though, silly floated balls to no one. Kane’s got about ten times the assists compared to Dabo over his career so I’m sure it’s just rustiness in his case. Question is can he shake that off if he’s not a regular starter. Dabo fits the team so much better at the moment for me, much smarter passing, drives past players better, better defensively, just the end product. If we could stick Kane’s end product on Dabo we’d have one hell of a WB.
But if everything’s so black and white, expect to get called out on it when many disagree.
Not sure if your first sentence is allowing you to be objective here Shmmeee?
In fact I don't want to alarm anyone but we most likely will be looking to make a sale either in Jan or next summer.
This nafty bit of business may make that exiteer Dabo IMO.
Also frivolous observation re your username.
It's only just occurred to me that the sh part has Dutch connotations, I'm wondering how so at least ten year prior to being with the Dutch lady lol, Shmoking?
First half at Millwall he was awful
Players play badly for all sorts of reasons. There’s always an excuse.
Take it the other way, Hyam, who I generally don’t rate, was outstanding yesterday and really made me question my judgement that he’s not up to upper championship level. That said it was against a L1 team.
Walker, who I like a lot and on paper would have as our second striker has been poor when he’s been on this season and is making me question whether he’s up to it. Though he thrives on service and our final ball has been the one thing I think we need to improve this season.
The idea that I write players off is a nonsense. I might value different things in players (especially wing backs), but I don’t write anyone off.
First half at Millwall he was awful
Players play badly for all sorts of reasons. There’s always an excuse.
Take it the other way, Hyam, who I generally don’t rate, was outstanding yesterday and really made me question my judgement that he’s not up to upper championship level. That said it was against a L1 team.
Walker, who I like a lot and on paper would have as our second striker has been poor when he’s been on this season and is making me question whether he’s up to it. Though he thrives on service and our final ball has been the one thing I think we need to improve this season.
The idea that I write players off is a nonsense. I might value different things in players (especially wing backs), but I don’t write anyone off.
He wasn’t awful at Millwall though. Maatsen was the one they were targeting and he looked a lot more uncomfortable.
Look at what you wrote when those 3 were signed, Moore especially. Then after a few pre season games you saw that as confirmation we had the ghost of Michael Quirke between the sticks. Whether you mean it or not it looks to me and others like you pass judgment way too quickly
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?