I am Spartacus!
Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
Might stand outside the county ground next weekend with an iPad and get people to sign it. Probably look like a twat and freeze my arse off but might get a couple of hundred signatures
Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
Be careful what you wish for… This democracy thing does not always work the way you think it should…
An inquiry …. Might show that ACL was always losing money and that even when the Club paid all the rent, the only way ACL (as managed by the Charity and the Council) could pay its bills was to sell off future revenue and pass it through the profit and loss account… go on then you budding forensic accountants give it a go… !
It might show that the best offer in town was from SISU to pay off the bank loan but that irrational prejudice by the labour majority stirred up by some good old chanting and would rather spend £14,400,000 of tax payers money to end up back where it started with a worthless company but £14.4m poorer… Like having an old car and offering an impoverished owner an HP deal for 3x the value of the car and then getting pissy when the owner won't pay it?
It might be that the Council needed to sell the football club with the stadium to have any hope of burying the fact that it has sold off the future income from the Casino, Hospitality and Development...
Investment..? Did the Council put in £20,000,000 to build the stadium.. or did it loan it to ACL and the force ACL to borrow from the bank to to repay the council… Just how much might an inquiry find that the council has taken out… Capital investment or capital extraction? What does this do to the councils own accounting? What could an inquiry find?
Would it find that the ACL shares are worthless and that a Charity has thrown away its inheritance by mismanaging the stadium?
And how much would it find that the stadium had to charge in over rent to paper over its losses...
Well get signing chaps so like the end of all good thrillers we can discover… was it the Council in the Stadium with the Briefcase...Or was in the Owner in the Stadium with the Football team… ? Or the Charity in the stands with the chequebook..
Why would you lend £14,400,000 to a company that has an asset worth £5m and a cash flow that could not pay the over heads… Stand up now… I am sure the council will accept offers from anyone who is daft enough to take that offer...
Do you really believe that (As per the Council Leader),,,. A stadium is not a stadium its a "casino"… (oh yes one which has paid to get out of its lease) or Shazzam its a conference centre….) or woosh Its a hotel !! Naw that high green bit in the middle is for show… and the seats are and outdoor picnic area...
Hey none of this might be found, but don't forget, ACL, the Council and Higgs are in the selling game and the Club is the customer.
So who is this who is going to speak up, the Club, the Charity, the Council… Why can't the Council put the stadium up for sale? Oh that's right because it can't balance the books!!!
Inquiry …. what fun, bet you could sell tickets for that… oh I forgot… there will be Judicial review this summer with the Council explaining itself to a High Court judge and its free to go an watch ….
Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
Be careful what you wish for… This democracy thing does not always work the way you think it should…
What I would like is for the truth to come out, if the select committee can do this then why wouldn't we all want that? I'd love to see the whole lot of them being questioned and am encouraging as many people as possible to sign.Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
Be careful what you wish for… This democracy thing does not always work the way you think it should…
An inquiry …. Might show that ACL was always losing money and that even when the Club paid all the rent, the only way ACL (as managed by the Charity and the Council) could pay its bills was to sell off future revenue and pass it through the profit and loss account… go on then you budding forensic accountants give it a go… !
It might show that the best offer in town was from SISU to pay off the bank loan but that irrational prejudice by the labour majority stirred up by some good old chanting and would rather spend £14,400,000 of tax payers money to end up back where it started with a worthless company but £14.4m poorer… Like having an old car and offering an impoverished owner an HP deal for 3x the value of the car and then getting pissy when the owner won't pay it?
It might be that the Council needed to sell the football club with the stadium to have any hope of burying the fact that it has sold off the future income from the Casino, Hospitality and Development...
Investment..? Did the Council put in £20,000,000 to build the stadium.. or did it loan it to ACL and the force ACL to borrow from the bank to to repay the council… Just how much might an inquiry find that the council has taken out… Capital investment or capital extraction? What does this do to the councils own accounting? What could an inquiry find?
Would it find that the ACL shares are worthless and that a Charity has thrown away its inheritance by mismanaging the stadium?
And how much would it find that the stadium had to charge in over rent to paper over its losses...
Well get signing chaps so like the end of all good thrillers we can discover… was it the Council in the Stadium with the Briefcase...Or was in the Owner in the Stadium with the Football team… ? Or the Charity in the stands with the chequebook..
Why would you lend £14,400,000 to a company that has an asset worth £5m and a cash flow that could not pay the over heads… Stand up now… I am sure the council will accept offers from anyone who is daft enough to take that offer...
Do you really believe that (As per the Council Leader),,,. A stadium is not a stadium its a "casino"… (oh yes one which has paid to get out of its lease) or Shazzam its a conference centre….) or woosh Its a hotel !! Naw that high green bit in the middle is for show… and the seats are and outdoor picnic area...
Hey none of this might be found, but don't forget, ACL, the Council and Higgs are in the selling game and the Club is the customer.
So who is this who is going to speak up, the Club, the Charity, the Council… Why can't the Council put the stadium up for sale? Oh that's right because it can't balance the books!!!
Inquiry …. what fun, bet you could sell tickets for that… oh I forgot… there will be Judicial review this summer with the Council explaining itself to a High Court judge and its free to go an watch ….
The Judicial Review was instigated by one party the Higgs are making a different legal action but they're still involved in this mess and not neutral. On the other hand a select committee would be instigated (assuming we get all the signatures) by us the supporters and the people of Coventry and anyone else who cares about our situation, not one of the parties directly involved. As such what fan would oppose it?Be careful what you wish for… This democracy thing does not always work the way you think it should…
An inquiry …. Might show that ACL was always losing money and that even when the Club paid all the rent, the only way ACL (as managed by the Charity and the Council) could pay its bills was to sell off future revenue and pass it through the profit and loss account… go on then you budding forensic accountants give it a go… !
It might show that the best offer in town was from SISU to pay off the bank loan but that irrational prejudice by the labour majority stirred up by some good old chanting and would rather spend £14,400,000 of tax payers money to end up back where it started with a worthless company but £14.4m poorer… Like having an old car and offering an impoverished owner an HP deal for 3x the value of the car and then getting pissy when the owner won't pay it?
It might be that the Council needed to sell the football club with the stadium to have any hope of burying the fact that it has sold off the future income from the Casino, Hospitality and Development...
Investment..? Did the Council put in £20,000,000 to build the stadium.. or did it loan it to ACL and the force ACL to borrow from the bank to to repay the council… Just how much might an inquiry find that the council has taken out… Capital investment or capital extraction? What does this do to the councils own accounting? What could an inquiry find?
Would it find that the ACL shares are worthless and that a Charity has thrown away its inheritance by mismanaging the stadium?
And how much would it find that the stadium had to charge in over rent to paper over its losses...
Well get signing chaps so like the end of all good thrillers we can discover… was it the Council in the Stadium with the Briefcase...Or was in the Owner in the Stadium with the Football team… ? Or the Charity in the stands with the chequebook..
Why would you lend £14,400,000 to a company that has an asset worth £5m and a cash flow that could not pay the over heads… Stand up now… I am sure the council will accept offers from anyone who is daft enough to take that offer...
Do you really believe that (As per the Council Leader),,,. A stadium is not a stadium its a "casino"… (oh yes one which has paid to get out of its lease) or Shazzam its a conference centre….) or woosh Its a hotel !! Naw that high green bit in the middle is for show… and the seats are and outdoor picnic area...
Hey none of this might be found, but don't forget, ACL, the Council and Higgs are in the selling game and the Club is the customer.
So who is this who is going to speak up, the Club, the Charity, the Council… Why can't the Council put the stadium up for sale? Oh that's right because it can't balance the books!!!
Inquiry …. what fun, bet you could sell tickets for that… oh I forgot… there will be Judicial review this summer with the Council explaining itself to a High Court judge and its free to go an watch ….
Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
And BTW observer you seem to know a couple of facts none of us do. Like to us the loan was 14m. You say it was 14.4m
Are you Timothy? You certainly know how to chat shit.
"Ms Seppala was the least satisfactory of all the witnesses. ...
I look forward to Joy taking to the stand again.
I am Spartacus!
Be careful what you wish for, …. A select committee might well find that your friendly local council spend 10 years washing out all the money it could from the Ricoh and had to make loans to it to paper over that fact that it could not continue to afford to run it…
It might find that the ACL shares were worthless,
It might find that the SISU offer to pay off the bank debt was the best in town and that the fans have been roundly played by the council by irrational prejudice...
It might not of course…
It might find that the accounts of ACL are completely above board and that taking capital out to paper over bleeding cash flow even when the club was paying the full rent did not happen….
It might not find that the Council needed to bankrupt the club so that it could sell the stadium with the Club… and that the fans have been unwittingly co-opted …!
It might not… who knows… thats the fun of Public Inquiries… you just never know… Certainly there are more players with their own agendas in this game than there are on the pitch…
Game on …...
The Judicial Review was instigated by one party the Higgs are making a different legal action but they're still involved in this mess and not neutral. On the other hand a select committee would be instigated (assuming we get all the signatures) by us the supporters and the people of' Coventry and anyone else who cares about our situation, not one of the parties directly involved. As such what fan would oppose it?
What a fucking cretin, how low do they have to stoop than to try and derail a petition. Sickening bastards just knock the nail in a tad more every week in their own coffin.
Of course if everything SISU claim is true they would surely welcome this and be urging everyone to sign. The only reason anyone would object to this is if they had something to hide :thinking about:
So ACL's frantic attempt to stop the judicial review means they do have something to hide?
So ACL's frantic attempt to stop the judicial review means they do have something to hide?
So ACL's frantic attempt to stop the judicial review means they do have something to hide?
So ACL's frantic attempt to stop the judicial review means they do have something to hide?
Be careful what you wish for… This democracy thing does not always work the way you think it should…
An inquiry …. Might show that ACL was always losing money and that even when the Club paid all the rent, the only way ACL (as managed by the Charity and the Council) could pay its bills was to sell off future revenue and pass it through the profit and loss account… go on then you budding forensic accountants give it a go… !
It might show that the best offer in town was from SISU to pay off the bank loan but that irrational prejudice by the labour majority stirred up by some good old chanting and would rather spend £14,400,000 of tax payers money to end up back where it started with a worthless company but £14.4m poorer… Like having an old car and offering an impoverished owner an HP deal for 3x the value of the car and then getting pissy when the owner won't pay it?
It might be that the Council needed to sell the football club with the stadium to have any hope of burying the fact that it has sold off the future income from the Casino, Hospitality and Development...
Investment..? Did the Council put in £20,000,000 to build the stadium.. or did it loan it to ACL and the force ACL to borrow from the bank to to repay the council… Just how much might an inquiry find that the council has taken out… Capital investment or capital extraction? What does this do to the councils own accounting? What could an inquiry find?
Would it find that the ACL shares are worthless and that a Charity has thrown away its inheritance by mismanaging the stadium?
And how much would it find that the stadium had to charge in over rent to paper over its losses...
Well get signing chaps so like the end of all good thrillers we can discover… was it the Council in the Stadium with the Briefcase...Or was in the Owner in the Stadium with the Football team… ? Or the Charity in the stands with the chequebook..
Why would you lend £14,400,000 to a company that has an asset worth £5m and a cash flow that could not pay the over heads… Stand up now… I am sure the council will accept offers from anyone who is daft enough to take that offer...
Do you really believe that (As per the Council Leader),,,. A stadium is not a stadium its a "casino"… (oh yes one which has paid to get out of its lease) or Shazzam its a conference centre….) or woosh Its a hotel !! Naw that high green bit in the middle is for show… and the seats are and outdoor picnic area...
Hey none of this might be found, but don't forget, ACL, the Council and Higgs are in the selling game and the Club is the customer.
So who is this who is going to speak up, the Club, the Charity, the Council… Why can't the Council put the stadium up for sale? Oh that's right because it can't balance the books!!!
Inquiry …. what fun, bet you could sell tickets for that… oh I forgot… there will be Judicial review this summer with the Council explaining itself to a High Court judge and its free to go an watch ….
Are you honestly suggesting that a sane business would not try to stop legal action being taken against it?
Have you ever heard of legal costs, not to mention the distraction?
It depends I guess, personally I wouldn't want it but then again I haven't been taking out legal action against other parties.
I just hope this JR gets everything out in the open.
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