Grendel
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Do you think that Newcastle are a well run football club?
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Do you think that Newcastle are a well run football club?
Nonleagueherewecome
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No, you are incapable of constructive debate only destructive. You define yourself as being in opposition to the flow.
If you feel so strongly about SISU still, how come you never criticise them?
And I see it doesn't take long for you to snap and resort to being insulting again!
Nonleagueherewecome
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I don't follow Newcastle or take any interest in them.
Should we be looking to get Sam Hamman or Ken Bates out of retirement ,Or Get Ridsdale In,Is he still busy with Preston ? Not the Yank.
lordsummerisle
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Should we be looking to get Sam Hamman or Ken Bates out of retirement ,Or Get Ridsdale In,Is he still busy with Preston ? Not the Yank.
Ken Bates one good example why property development and football don't mix.
Chelsea were about to go into adminstration before Abravomich took over, despite the Chelsea Village, think they were £96million in debt and days after Abravomich took over he had to pay another £23million bill that would have seen Chelsea fold.
It's not the panacea that many people think.
lordsummerisle
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Don't really think that there is any point in criticising Sisu now, it should be evident to even the most dim that they are useless.
lordsummerisle
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At no cost to himself no doubt ,Like Richardson hey.
The rich never lose.
Sky blue north east
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If we don't play at ricoh again,hope the flaming stadium burns to the ground and all acl board members burn in hell.....
georgehudson
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all of these opinions / arguments revolve around our owners,
if you choose one side, or the other,
that doesn't tarnish you,
it merely proffers your point of view,
my viewpoint, as it has been from day 1, is that i have no regard, or respect, for an outfit that set out to distress,
& acquire, a business, at the expense of others,
there has never been a clear & concise plan presented by sisu,
& indeed they have never honestly showed any truth, allegiance, faith, etc.,
towards Coventry City fans, imho,
the facade that was a series of 'forums', mmm,
was that, i wonder, to present to the FL that they were attempting contact with the fans ?
this, only served to present the apparent duplicity from the present owners,
i cannot condone those who massage facts to suit their purpose,
neither can i believe in any of the dross trotted out,
those who love 'the beautiful game' i applaud,
those who follow 'the devious game' i despise,
I WANT MY CLUB BACK,
PLAY UP SKY BLUES
if you choose one side, or the other,
that doesn't tarnish you,
it merely proffers your point of view,
my viewpoint, as it has been from day 1, is that i have no regard, or respect, for an outfit that set out to distress,
& acquire, a business, at the expense of others,
there has never been a clear & concise plan presented by sisu,
& indeed they have never honestly showed any truth, allegiance, faith, etc.,
towards Coventry City fans, imho,
the facade that was a series of 'forums', mmm,
was that, i wonder, to present to the FL that they were attempting contact with the fans ?
this, only served to present the apparent duplicity from the present owners,
i cannot condone those who massage facts to suit their purpose,
neither can i believe in any of the dross trotted out,
those who love 'the beautiful game' i applaud,
those who follow 'the devious game' i despise,
I WANT MY CLUB BACK,
PLAY UP SKY BLUES
Nonleagueherewecome
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But it isn't, is it? You know that. They still have plenty of disciples. No matter what happens people's resolve and opposition to them also gets worn down by apathy. I would have thought that was a battle that you would enjoy fighting rather than patronising those that do (eg the teeth gnashing comment).
lordsummerisle
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Just think that some of the more, shall we say, extreme , comments, play into Sisu's hands.
If we want to be taken seriously as fans then have to engage as adults instead of all the "Wisher and Faggot" etc stuff that is banded about.
The "Joy" statue and attendant "jokes" may play well to the gallery here, but just look pretty pathetic to any outsiders looking in, and just panders to the prejudices of those who think that football fans are just morons.
Not that i've got anything against calling somebody a c**t if they deserve it, but generally reserve it for Ranson who bizarrely has some sort of hero staus still for many.
Paxman II
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What's clear reading all the post in this thread is that once again people are quoting the 'structure' of the Ricoh in so many varied ways!
(ACL/Higgs/Lease/freehold/Shares/Council owned/Council own ACL) and the list goes on.
If you are going to discuss the viability and future possibilities of the stadium at least start with the correct facts.
A lot on here is just a bunch of nonsense.
If we asked everyone to lay out the whole structure of the stadium I bet many would get it hopelessly wrong!
(ACL/Higgs/Lease/freehold/Shares/Council owned/Council own ACL) and the list goes on.
If you are going to discuss the viability and future possibilities of the stadium at least start with the correct facts.
A lot on here is just a bunch of nonsense.
If we asked everyone to lay out the whole structure of the stadium I bet many would get it hopelessly wrong!
Is it just me or are sisu/otium only waiting for the outcome of this judical review. As in my veiw im thinking there hoping it gets the go ahead as that would put acl in the shit if it went to court and sisu/otium won. As acl where struggleing before the council bailout. And the sisu/otium vulters were hovering hoping to gain control of acl for a pittance.Now i personaly think that if this review fails then sisu/otium will put the club up for sale as they then have no hope of getting there hands on the ricoh.
Its a possibility SBS ,but If there is a case to answer ,and i'm not convinced there Is , as Its essentially exactly the same method used to cover the Shortfall during construction there will be nothing illegal about what CCC has done ,but possibly unlawful .
Meaning they have to find another way of doing what they did ,survivable I would think . If SISU won damages ,obviously different story. On the assumption they don't their best bet of getting out has just gone when three other bidders were in the frame.
Astute
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We don't even know the structure of our club anymore
How long did it take for the FL to find out where the golden share was?
fernandopartridge
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Plans have been submitted but nothing has happened, most likely due to demand.
The idea of another sports club playing at the Ricoh is a preposterous as anything Tim Fisher says.
Flying Fokker
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This is getting nautical.
Flying Fokker
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May be they would attract the stay at home CCFC fans? And City are heading in the other direction towards the conference.
Sub
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and a hedge fund is the best owner for a football club ?? The track record of our owner is crap but hey lets still support them, after all we dont know who owns the club, it is tied up in various companies books are never submitted on time, trandsfer embargos every season, best players always sold off, never seen the woman that runs the club and to top it all off they are going to build a stadium outside the city bounderies and saddle the club with another 30 million debt !!
how anybody can say our next owner will be crap or good i do not know, but what we do know is our present owner is not doing what is best for the football club or its fans ! imho
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torchomatic
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Ha, you should know! You do it often enough yourself.
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bigfatronssba
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What good would that be to our city?
The Ricoh is a wonderful asset, with or without the football club.
What good would that be to our city?
The Ricoh is a wonderful asset, with or without the football club.
torchomatic
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Do you have a Ricoh brochure in your hands?
Without the club it it would a wonderful empty asset.
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torchomatic
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I am genuinely amazed
that you think you're not being hypocritical.
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bigfatronssba
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I just dont understand why someone would wish for an iconic Coventry landmark to be destroyed.
I just dont understand why someone would wish for an iconic Coventry landmark to be destroyed.
torchomatic
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Does BSB give you a tenner for every time you say that?
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torchomatic
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No one does. I just can't understand why so many want to see their club chucked out and the Ricoh succeed without them.
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Sky Blue Pete
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No ones been thrown out!!
sky blue john
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I have failed to understand 17pages of utter tripe about the Ricoh !!
Get over it guys CCFC don't play there any more !!!!
The Ricoh is dead to CCFC !!!
Sisu's endorsed tactics by some on here have got us to this point !!!
Get over it guys CCFC don't play there any more !!!!
The Ricoh is dead to CCFC !!!
Sisu's endorsed tactics by some on here have got us to this point !!!
stupot07
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Surely that's changing the goalposts from the original agreement that the club gets first refusal to buy back its share in ACL?
Matty_CCFC
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Brighton. I agree with your comments.
bigfatronssba
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That option disappears with the breaking of the lease.
That option disappears with the breaking of the lease.