rob9872
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Not quite what I meant, but I suspect you're right
Not quite what I meant, but I suspect you're rightVery concerning, we might lose at some point this season.
Bollocks. That's the way we play and if you're successful you're taking 4 men out of the game either creating a chance or tiring their legs. There's a reason why we've scored so many late goals. It's not even like he's not gone long on occasion or this hasn't been successful for us almost every time we've done it.Only seen the highlights, but it's NOT the time to play nice football out from the back when you have 4 attacking players pressing the back 4 on the edge of the box. Marosi should have hoofed it.
it clearly worksBollocks. That's the way we play and if you're successful you're taking 4 men out of the game either creating a chance or tiring their legs. There's a reason why we've scored so many late goals. It's not even like he's gone long on occasion or this hasn't been successful for us almost every time we've done it.
Been to any of the games? The trouble is, if you are only watching highlights you may only see when it doesn’t work.Only seen the highlights, but it's NOT the time to play nice football out from the back when you have 4 attacking players pressing the back 4 on the edge of the box. Marosi should have hoofed it.
He was doing that yesterday. Went long to Jobello/Godden quite often. Walsh was at fault because he failed to control a ball, not because of who kicked it. Let's not be silly either, Burge could never play that system.WIth the Marosi thing, if that'd been Burge would people be having the 'Walsh was at fault' argument or just pinning the entire thing on the keeper because it's Burge. You have to accept it is inevitable that playing that way it will at some point cost you the odd goal when it goes wrong, but if it gets you more than it loses it's not a problem.
The one thing that maybe it could be improved on is mixing it up every so often - if we try to play it out every single time opposition managers know they can press high because we play out. Having the technical ability to do is very impressive (esp at this level), but it also needs to be supplemented by a knowledge of when a team has been suckered into the high line and when that has created space behind to be exploited with a more direct ball. Keeps the opposition guessing and more reluctant to do the high press every time along us to keep to plan A.
WIth the Marosi thing, if that'd been Burge would people be having the 'Walsh was at fault' argument or just pinning the entire thing on the keeper because it's Burge. You have to accept it is inevitable that playing that way it will at some point cost you the odd goal when it goes wrong, but if it gets you more than it loses it's not a problem.
The one thing that maybe it could be improved on is mixing it up every so often - if we try to play it out every single time opposition managers know they can press high because we play out. Having the technical ability to do is very impressive (esp at this level), but it also needs to be supplemented by a knowledge of when a team has been suckered into the high line and when that has created space behind to be exploited with a more direct ball. Keeps the opposition guessing and more reluctant to do the high press every time along us to keep to plan A.
They aren't watching are they.He went long several times!! what are you lot watching?
Looking up in the air trying to remember how to pronounce 'forward'They aren't watching are they.
Yes, that is true, as the highlights at that end of the pitch will generally only result in at least an attempt on goal.Been to any of the games? The trouble is, if you are only watching highlights you may only see when it doesn’t work.
The thing is if we're pressed high teams leave gaps for players like O'Hare to exploit so it isn't as if we're finishedI'm concerned. We'd have lost to better opposition tonight. We've been worked out that we're in trouble with a high press. Must be space forward when that's on but we look vulnerable. However, great effort, great attitude and definitely take the 3 points.
He went long several times!! what are you lot watching?
Absolutely agree and I certainly don't have the answers to our perceived short comings. I like that we have the confidence to knock it about, but we nearly got caught on more than one occasion and thankfully didn't result in more goals. Ideally I'd just like to mix it up a little as we certainly don't want to become predictable as we can just as quickly fall away like a Mowbray team.The thing is if we're pressed high teams leave gaps for players like O'Hare to exploit so it isn't as if we're finished
Absolutely agree and I certainly don't have the answers to our perceived short comings. I like that we have the confidence to knock it about, but we nearly got caught on more than one occasion and thankfully didn't result in more goals. Ideally I'd just like to mix it up a little as we certainly don't want to become predictable as we can just as quickly fall away like a Mowbray team.
It will force mistakes and I agree - but can we afford to do it against the better opposition? They wont all miss the chances that Wimbledon did last night.The whole point is teams see what we are doing and stretch themselves or leave gaps. There’ll be mistakes cos we are a L1 side playing Championship football, but that’s OK IMO.
As alwaya if marosi makes terrible mistakes as much as burge he will get same trestment. So far 2 mistakes in 9 games? And we got 4pts from those gamesWIth the Marosi thing, if that'd been Burge would people be having the 'Walsh was at fault' argument or just pinning the entire thing on the keeper because it's Burge. You have to accept it is inevitable that playing that way it will at some point cost you the odd goal when it goes wrong, but if it gets you more than it loses it's not a problem.
The one thing that maybe it could be improved on is mixing it up every so often - if we try to play it out every single time opposition managers know they can press high because we play out. Having the technical ability to do is very impressive (esp at this level), but it also needs to be supplemented by a knowledge of when a team has been suckered into the high line and when that has created space behind to be exploited with a more direct ball. Keeps the opposition guessing and more reluctant to do the high press every time along us to keep to plan A.
He went long several times!! what are you lot watching?
Suck ‘em in for 75 minutes then HOOOOF when they least expect itIt will force mistakes and I agree - but can we afford to do it against the better opposition? They wont all miss the chances that Wimbledon did last night.
Possession stats are bullshit these days. It's literally just the number of passes we made divided by the total number of passes. So because Wimbledon didn't make many, we were massively on top. There's no chess clock any more, sadly.I think this was mentioned by someone else; we had 69% possession last night. Manchester City type stats.
I've never seen us play so much possession before mainly because of set up (generally we've been 4-4-2 since I started watching in the early 80s) and we also haven't had the players with the technical skills to play possession. Or even enough patience in the crowd - FORWARD/SHOOT!!
Is 69% some kind of league record for us? Anyway it's a very refreshing change; I well remember the Don Mackay days of full backs launching it 90 yards to 'get it into the mixer.' Hoof ball was all the rage in that era and it certainly wasn't pretty.
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