Pressley has to go now (2 Viewers)
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spider_ricoh
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"We can't win blah blah blah" says prophet of doom Grendel - what was the result at Colchester?
Turn it the other way around - we have now lost just once in the last 5 games in the league and twice in the last 7 in all competitions which is hardly sackable territory.
Turn it the other way around - we have now lost just once in the last 5 games in the league and twice in the last 7 in all competitions which is hardly sackable territory.
ccfcway
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or, 2 points off drop zone in a self confessed promotion push season...
spider_ricoh
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Oh wait yes good idea, sacking the manager on a frequent has worked a treat for us in the past. That's surely the way to build a consistent and stable squad from which to push for greater things.
As much as I am frustrated as everyone else I do think we have to have patience and perseverance - it's easy enough to back a manager in the good times but if we stick with one through a bad spell we might be stronger for it when we come out the other side.
Evo1883
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I think whichever way you want to look at things , bad owners , no investment , off field issues ...whatever .
the football currently being served at ccfc is nothing short of painful to watch , we have a manager that cares more about the colour of his best defenders piss than encouraging the squad to express themselves on the football pitch .
the players bought in are extremely questionable and regardless of owners there are teams playing better football , higher in the division that have a smaller budget than coventry city .
any manager worth his wage would have this squad in a better position than it currently is and i believe thats a fact , steven pressley is undrachieving .
the worrying thing is its not just a 5-10 game thing , its been happening for a year , yes we have issues , but there is no excuse for half the shite served up on a saturday afternoon
the football currently being served at ccfc is nothing short of painful to watch , we have a manager that cares more about the colour of his best defenders piss than encouraging the squad to express themselves on the football pitch .
the players bought in are extremely questionable and regardless of owners there are teams playing better football , higher in the division that have a smaller budget than coventry city .
any manager worth his wage would have this squad in a better position than it currently is and i believe thats a fact , steven pressley is undrachieving .
the worrying thing is its not just a 5-10 game thing , its been happening for a year , yes we have issues , but there is no excuse for half the shite served up on a saturday afternoon
Grendel
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Lazy argument these players are perfectly capable of performing in this league.
Sky Blue Pete
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Genuinely don't think they are Grendel
ccfcway
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34% win record in League One........"a bad spell" ........?
LJC_CCFC
Member
What type of football are we trying to play? What philosophy does Pressley have? These are the questions that are truly worrying.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Look at the player Walsall have to choose from
Ashley Grimes, striker
League 2 reject, released from Bury after 0 goals in 15 games
Tom Bradshaw, striker
Scored 7 goals for relegated Shrewsbury last season
Mathieu Manset, striker
City reject and failed everywhere
Jordan Cook, striker
24 years old, has less than 50 career appearances and 6 career goals.
Pressley doesn't even know what it's like to really work under a tight budget, if he wants to know he can go manage a Crewe or Walsall and then he really will have something to complain about.
Kingokings204
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Word for word perfect
Kingokings204
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Yep
letsallsingtogether
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Sorry don't agree you get what you
We get rid of anyone who is worth 10 cents and replace with players worth a penny.
The quicker these owners have gone the better otherwise the only way is down.
shmmeee
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We've got consistently shitter since relegation (and before) that's for sure, but IMO we've still got a squad of players more than capable of performing in this division.
On paper we've still got top end L1/low end Championship players in Reda, Haynes, Fleck, O'Brien, Nouble, Madine, Tudgay, etc.
More to the point, even if we have got shit players, we're really not using them well.
Don't disagree there's no future with Sisu, but the drop is harsher than it needs to be at the moment. Any manager can do it with a couple of on fire players (McGoldrick for Robins, Clarke/Wilson for Pressley), the test is how they do when the players need picking up and forming into a team.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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For all those that say it's because the squad isn't good enough, this is a question you have to ask. If we swapped squads with Oldham or Notts County would we then be in 6/7th position and them be in our position?
The answer is no because Pressley is awful.
The answer is no because Pressley is awful.
Paxman II
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You need to remember where we are and who we are at the moment in order to get a proper perspective. League 1 with academy and loan players in the side.
Today was woeful from the off but as the game went on we improved and stole the second half and should have won it. Walsall had no bite in attack and rarely looked like scoring tbf. Can you remember Allsop doing very much?
Out defenders were very good today. Our front two were good with what they had of the ball. The midfield again is the concern. Reda and Haynes playing unfamiliar roles and one reduced to looking poor. Reda did good in fact but I want him back at centre back.
We need more width but crucially we need more movement and awareness. This improved second half dramatically. We need to take the ball forward when we have it.
We are lacking pace and a bit of quality in the middle of the park to string it all together.
Today was woeful from the off but as the game went on we improved and stole the second half and should have won it. Walsall had no bite in attack and rarely looked like scoring tbf. Can you remember Allsop doing very much?
Out defenders were very good today. Our front two were good with what they had of the ball. The midfield again is the concern. Reda and Haynes playing unfamiliar roles and one reduced to looking poor. Reda did good in fact but I want him back at centre back.
We need more width but crucially we need more movement and awareness. This improved second half dramatically. We need to take the ball forward when we have it.
We are lacking pace and a bit of quality in the middle of the park to string it all together.
Astute
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You need to remember who brought all these strikers and defenders to our club whilst not sorting our midfield out. You also need to remember who chooses the side that plays and the tactics used. And you also talk as though we are the only side that uses young players and loan players. How many division 3 clubs survive on gates not much more than we were getting whilst playing in Northampton?
The most telling thing for me is when I look at our opponents squad and struggle to see any player that might strengthen our team. Then we play them and struggle to even get a shot on target. I don't care how much you hate SISU. You can't blame them for this. Where they have gone wrong is giving an inept manager a very long contract. And if they get rid of him the odds are that the compo would be taken from our playing budget for the next few years. But if they could bring in a manager that knows what he is doing, a winning side would more than compensate for this in higher attendances.
letsallsingtogether
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But we don't play on paper they are poor players in a very poor league I haven' t seen one team yet that has impressed me utter shocking.
Our games have been terrible because both sides have been shocking. IMO
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Gazolba
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We sold them all before this season started! Baker plays for MK Dons now ... and they just won 6-0.
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Sick Boy
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Stop fishing for likes! Robins didn't do too badly.
Gazolba
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the unbeaten streak at the start of the season. We went 6 league games unbeaten WDDDWW. Granted not the longest streak and the wins were all by one goal and we only scored 7 goals. But it all fell apart after the Reda red card. Then we went on a disastrous series of results that undid all the good of the unbeaten run. Based on the number of goals conceded, the defense is not doing that bad but our goal scoring record is very poor. I put this down to SP having shored up the defense from last season but losing all the goalscoring midfielders and the star strikers. So everything that is happening IMHO is due to the transfers in and out. Maybe SP could get the current players playing better and maybe not. Maybe someone else could and maybe not. But the fact is the midfield and strike force is much weaker than last season.
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Evo1883
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True , but lets look at our wins this season or infact our performances during that period , we were very average but picking up points and whenever we have won its by a solitary goal
skybluetony176
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Your OP is whats lazy. Lets not look at the real issue, lets blame the manager. We're in a pattern that will only continue as long as SISU are here. But you dont want to talk about that.
Evo1883
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Its clear what sisu are doing , problem is its actually a common thing in league one , teams sell their better players as they just cannot stop them joining higher league clubs , we are no different .
again though we need to look at notts county , they were almost relegated last season and shaun derry and gregg abbot have assembled a squad with no money that are 7th in league 1. If thats not good management then i dont know what is
Gazolba
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And the teams that do that never get promoted. You will only get promoted if you buy or develop good players and keep them.
skybluetony176
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Just because other clubs are doing it does it mean we should settle for SISU doing it? Our club has had its legs chopped of by its owners and sacking the manager is patching it up with a sticking plaster.
As for Notts county management team. This is no different to what was being said about SP and his team this time last season.
johnwillomagic
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I think you give Pressley till Christmas ......having said all this since I last made this statement we have got four points from last two games........as one poster
tediously states regularly 2 points average is promotion form! :claping hands:
However having said that we are still playind dreadfully so cannot see this two point average being maintained for long......would love to be wrong though!!
tediously states regularly 2 points average is promotion form! :claping hands:
However having said that we are still playind dreadfully so cannot see this two point average being maintained for long......would love to be wrong though!!
LJC_CCFC
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Everyone understands that under SISU the 'success' we can achieve in the long term is limited, it's a given and you don't need to state it or keep depressingly jabbering on about it. The fact is with this squad of players Pressley SHOULD be doing MUCH better. The people crying about losing our 'best' players and therefore not ever being able to do anything, are you oblivious to the fact that this happens at every level of football and to the best sides? We HAVE replaced Wilson and co with adequate replacements as this league is of a ridiculously low standard.
Grendel
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The irony of your statement is no doubt lost on you.
How many of the Walsall players would you have preferred today above the ones we had?
skybluetony176
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Success under SISU isn't limited, its not even on the menu.
skybluetony176
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Yep. Like I said, you don't want to talk about the real issues. I knew you wouldn't let me down.