But he could, that's the thing. It would have been up to him.You can’t be captain today because of your beliefs.
Actual controversy. However much we disagree with barbaric values I really don’t think it’d be acceptable.
But he could, that's the thing. It would have been up to him.
I don't know if this works as a comparison, but I absolutely loved the tramlines kit from a couple of years ago. I really wanted one, but was really uncomfortable about being an advertising hoarding for a betting company, so I didn't buy one. Does that mean that I was denied owning a shirt I would have liked because of my personal values? No; it means I chose not to.
If you want a nice tramline kit, then you promote a betting company. If you want to be captain, you promote inclusivity. If you don't want to, then don't. Up to you.
Apologies in advance if I come across as ratty in asking the question, but genuinely, where do you see the problem? Ipswich Town don't seem to have one, the LGBT fan groups don't seem to have one...Exactly. So why should it be a problem as much as it apparently is? It shouldn’t have any effect on the pitch.
Apologies in advance if I come across as ratty in asking the question, but genuinely, where do you see the problem? Ipswich Town don't seem to have one, the LGBT fan groups don't seem to have one...
Is it a huge problem? Has there been an outcry, or just media stirring? Genuine question.Exactly. So why should it be a problem as much as it apparently is? It shouldn’t have any effect on the pitch.
No one's saying he should be forced to wear it.It’s being discussed in sports news and social media. Of course someone has expressed problem. This post wouldn’t exist otherwise. Be honest, next to nobody watching that game caught out that he wasn’t wearing multicoloured elastic on his arm.
It’s been said on this very post that he should go and play in Egypt instead if he doesn’t like it. Honestly think people would have this rainbow stuff forced on players - which is also a dodgy path to take.
I find the Guehi stuff strange too. Don’t know why he chose to write it on an armband. But is it really a big deal?
He wrote "Jesus
None of it is a big deal at all - Ipswich and their supporter groups seem to have handled it with good grace and dignity and just want to move on. Guehi's been reminded of the rules and that's it. I genuinely don't understand why people think it's an "insane" controversy.It’s being discussed in sports news and social media. Of course someone has expressed problem. This post wouldn’t exist otherwise. Be honest, next to nobody watching that game caught out that he wasn’t wearing multicoloured elastic on his arm.
It’s been said on this very post that he should go and play in Egypt instead if he doesn’t like it. Honestly think people would have this rainbow stuff forced on players - which is also a dodgy path to take.
I find the Guehi stuff strange too. Don’t know why he chose to write it on an armband. But is it really a big deal?
I'm not sure on the scale. I reckon that's about 1:20 which tbh is no more than a slight incline.
Yep can’t see how anyone on the Ipswich playing would feel comfortable coming out any time soonNah but I'd say players refusing to support inclusive initiatives does
This 100%Fa should stop picking and choosing which causes are allowed to be promoted tbh
Interesting and someone has made the point that writing that might have been misconstrued as anti lgbt+ when for him he may have been saying I support it all the more cos I love JesusWeird to use your religion as an excuse for your homophobia.
If we’re just taking mad shit from the Old Testament then I’m pretty sure those football shirts are made with mixed fabrics.
Gets tricky doesnt it though. It’s impossible to be on everyone’s side you can’t have a pro Muslim weekend then an lgbt weekend then a anti racism one or maybe you canThis 100%
A person's sexuality isn't any different from someone having brown eyes. Religion should have no say in what's right or wrong about that.Isn't this like the gay people for Palestine stuff? Not realising the country would probably throw you off a building for being gay.
Morsy is Muslim and guehi is from a very religious up bringing.
I'm not sure the fa can say to keep religious messages out when trying to put other messages out that might be the opposite to what players believe (rightly or wrongly).
Imagine a player refusing to wear an anti-racism armband; I don’t see the difference.
Isn't this like the gay people for Palestine stuff? Not realising the country would probably throw you off a building for being gay.
Morsy is Muslim and guehi is from a very religious up bringing.
I'm not sure the fa can say to keep religious messages out when trying to put other messages out that might be the opposite to what players believe (rightly or wrongly).
Completely thatIsn't this like the gay people for Palestine stuff? Not realising the country would probably throw you off a building for being gay.
Morsy is Muslim and guehi is from a very religious up bringing.
I'm not sure the fa can say to keep religious messages out when trying to put other messages out that might be the opposite to what players believe (rightly or wrongly).
Is the current opinion on these things and it’s been around a while and it’s where I am even though I am a bit of a bible basherA person's sexuality isn't any different from someone having brown eyes. Religion should have no say in what's right or wrong about that.
I'm not saying it should. Just saying it does.A person's sexuality isn't any different from someone having brown eyes. Religion should have no say in what's right or wrong about that.
There should be no catch-22, though. If they want to live in a society where religion discriminates against someone, maybe the UK isn't the place for them.I'm not saying it should. Just saying it does.
That's where it's catch 22.
I have no issue if someone wants to believe in a certain religion, but once it starts being used to impact the lives of others and discriminate against them, it's wrong.Is the current opinion on these things and it’s been around a while and it’s where I am even though I am a bit of a bible basher
Couldn’t agree moreI have no issue if someone wants to believe in a certain religion, but once it starts being used to impact the lives of others and discriminate against them, it's wrong.
There should be no catch-22, though. If they want to live in a society where religion discriminates against someone, maybe the UK isn't the place for them.
What's the politics?
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