2 things, if Ranson comes back, he will be under pressure to back up his tatements regarding SISU not backing him.
Secondly, his track record of getting players to sign new deals (all be it this may have been hampered SISU tight purse strings) is dismal, especially compared to recent history.
Things were better under Ranson though?
Christ, I have never seen you post anything other than negative comments.
Well this is hardly positive is it? SISU came to the club through Ransom and his relationship with them and Pro-Zone. He hawked SISU round Man City, Derby and Southampton who told him to naff off. We didn't. Then we were supposed to feel sorry for him after he appointed one bungling manager after another to waste the ever diminishing budget. Sorry if I am negative. After 40 years of consequative season ticket purchases I think I have earned that right especially if the return of the chief architect of recent doom is considered a forward move. Why don't we get McGinnity and Richardson back as well? What a Triumviate that would be.
whats he doing sniffing around ?
could we be closer to a takeover than we think ?
This would be the best victory today !
Let's hope that RR being at the Ricoh with Hoffman is a sign that a new offer for the club is on the cards.
That would be great news and positive news at that!
Although i'm sure there will still be doom & gloom comments from some ...
Think you will find that fox and dann were later sold by other clubs for consideribly more money than what we sold them for ,
Hoffman said that he persuaded Ranson not to resign over the selling of those players as he knew they were worth more . Sold by sisu
I have yet to see you post a positive post on here , would just love to know what your solution to the Sky blue problem is?
"Now ranson may not be a great chooser of managers but his game plan of buying and selling at the right time/price was spot on."
Seeing as he apparently never managed to sell a player purchased whilst he was here, how do you know that his game plan was spot on?
Either way he's a lying bastard, with the crap he spouted when they were sold, or the self-justifying crap he came out with after he was "removed".
Still, things can only get better with the triumvirate of Ranson(in bed with Sisu from day one), Hoffman(on the board with Sisu for 3 years), and Elliott(Chairman when Sisu brought in, and been on pretty much all the boards since the start of the decline).
Not the brand new day that we all want and need, more likely to be Groundhog Day, but without the laughs.
The Raybots and Hoff-men need to go back in for some reprogramming.
Yes of course because Ranson was given tens of millions to play with. Come to think of it he should have had us playing champions league football by the end of his tenure.
"Now ranson may not be a great chooser of managers but his game plan of buying and selling at the right time/price was spot on."
Seeing as he apparently never managed to sell a player purchased whilst he was here, how do you know that his game plan was spot on?
Either way he's a lying bastard, with the crap he spouted when they were sold, or the self-justifying crap he came out with after he was "removed".
Still, things can only get better with the triumvirate of Ranson(in bed with Sisu from day one), Hoffman(on the board with Sisu for 3 years), and Elliott(Chairman when Sisu brought in, and been on pretty much all the boards since the start of the decline).
Not the brand new day that we all want and need, more likely to be Groundhog Day, but without the laughs.
The Raybots and Hoff-men need to go back in for some reprogramming.
And your solution is what, exactly?
He should certainly have had us better placed than 21st,17th,19th and 18th place if he was such a "football man", and "successful businessman".
I forgot, he did say(repeatedly), that we are "debt free".
So, that's alright then.
If people are being absolved of all sins because they didn't have multi-millions to play with, it stands to reason that Terry Butcher was great. Phil Neal too, magic. Peter Reid, what a man. How 'bout that Aidy Boothroyd? Chris Coleman, top of the pops.
No matter how you try and twist it Lord, you cannot deny that we made astute signings under Ranson.
To the majority on here it's clear that SISU and Ranson had their disagreements over the way the club was being run and since then Ranson has left and the club has suffered. It is also very clear that the people remaining / brought in haven't a clue how to run a football club.
Why don't you and kduffy to tell us all where we should have been finishing on such a tight budget and with such a small squad?
But how much excuse can Ranson legitimately offer when he's blaming the people he worked with and tried to hawk round to clubs before us? It's pretty hard to sympathise with him.
I find it hard to believe he didn't know who he was in bed with when trying to take over all these clubs.
Wasn't always such a small squad, and wasn't one of the tenets of Ranson's and Coleman's reign(which you agreed with wholeheartedly by the way) that we would be working towards a smaller squad?
As for the great signings under Ranson, then Westwood, Dann, and Fox, and Gunnarsson was an okay signing.
What other superstars have we signed though? An awful lot more dross, and on similar fees, if not more than those players were.
So, more likley he got lucky with those, and thought that it would carry on working.
Haha. I like the way you put it down to luck when it doesn't fit your logic.
When you're signing players under the radar and for such small amounts *it will always be hit and miss. For us to have landed the likes of Westwood and Dann under the noses of much better placed clubs and for the amount we did, we must have been doing something right.
I think when Dowie was in charge we did have a lot of 'deadwood' that needed clearing out. Given the budget SISU had given us to play with though we had to replace quantity with quality to make any progress. The problem we had, and still have now, is that we didn't have a big enough squad to cope with the inevitable injuries to key players.
The problem for you is that I am using logic, not the twisted logic that you use.
If it isn't luck that we signed these players, then why haven't we signed any players of comparable quality since?
We should be bursting at the seams with players worth millions.
Seeing as you wholeheartedly agreed with everything that Ranson said in the past, don't you feel stupid that apparently he didn't mean a bit of it?
Or is it that you put such store upon Ranson and Sisu, that you have to try and pretend that you were right all along, by blaming Sisu entirely, rather than both Sisu and the devious, money-grabbing "football" man who brought them into the club?
How would that be proving I was right all along?
In case you hadn't noticed the funds have dried up. Wouldn't that explain both a lack of quality and lack of signings in general?
The funds have dried up totally now, possibly due to previous mismanagement?
Certainly could be said to explain lack of signings this season, but you have to concede that more signings have been made since Dann, Fox, Westwood and Gunnarsson, which would have been for similar amounts, but not making the same impact.
Bell, Baker, Hussey, McPake, Keogh, Crainie, Eastwood, Wood etc, certainly not increased in value, nor made the same impression, yet were lauded at the time as being of the same ilk, and all "part of Ranson's plan".
The majority of the players above may explain why the "plan" wasn't working.
But players are managers choices arent they and any decent chairman goes with it. Out of those listed Bell, Baker, Hussey, McPake, Keogh, Cranie, Eastwood, Wood, there are some decent players there, McPake would have been a real bargain but how do you legislate for a broken collar bone and then a broken back. Hussey cheap as chips, still young 21/22. cost little and now slowly developing into a decent player, granted Eastwood a real flop but not through lack of ability more a character issue. Keogh is an ever present since signing. Someone pulled the plug on how much of sales money could be re-invested i suspect it came from above Ranson, which strained relations. We can blame RR for introducing SISU to us but they were also the preferred choice of our then council too when there were apparently atleast one other option, that seems to get forgotten.
I suspect lordsummerisle is preparing for another flop takeover so he can boast and beat his chest and quote "I told you so" As i see there is little alternative to the Hoffman bid, despite SISU saying we are looking for joint partners there aren't any and since SISU took the reigns fully following Ranson's departure we have slowly sunk to where we now are.
Well i believe whoever is waiting in the wings has fairly deep pockets and will be very different to our present owners. I also think these millions of debts we are being saddled with are SISU's debts and this is could be sticking point. Just who is liable for these debts hence the Cayman Island issue. As i see it and i might be wrong the football club, our football club, is part of the SISU portfolio and not a stand alone business, hence the awkward question by Damien Green MP in the House re. ownership. The rats certainly fled when that happened.. I am hoping these debts are placed elsewhere for now to allow a deal to take place and be dealt with later, don't fully understand big business fiddles which is basically what these off-shore accounts are, but whoever comes in has to make sure football league rules aren't breached too. £30 million of debt seems to be the popular figure but who owes it SISU or the club and who too ?
If you don't think Keogh was a great signing - and has increased in value then you really don't know what you're on about Mr Negative.
Where's your buddy Hackney Fox - you used to agree with every word he said.
Yes, i can see your point, no-one wipes £11million away as our Geoff is said to have done. I have always said if i won the Euro millions and could afford the court case i would publically accuse one or two to try and get them to sue, no confidentiality deals in court and all that, don't think they would though somehow . I do think however Mr Hoffman is well aware of past issues and has prepared his ground accordingly. IF these new people are who i have been told they are wealth wise they won't bother a jot about past board members.
As somebody earlier said, would be more comfortable if totally new, fresh faces, rather than the ones who have been associated with the previous rot.
Which includes Hoffman, Ranson, Elliot obviously, and even the hairy sneak Keys, who from what i can gather was responsible for the appointment of Peter Reid over Eric Black.
Your'e right I take it all back we can return to the dizzy heights when Ransom was last at the helm. Remind me, what was his track record when he was last here? In all the excitement I've forgotten. Any chance of getting Jimmy Hill back as well?
Negative negative negative !
Remind me how we spell positive again will you ?
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