Sick Boy
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It’s clear that the management don’t hold him in the same regard as the fans, hence why Waghorn has been the preferred sub. Good point about DL haha.
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fernandopartridge
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Yes, he helped to get Vik isolated against a single centre back with his running. I think Godden is quite limited in what he can do with the ball outside the box but his movement is nevertheless very good.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Missed the first half, but 2nd half all 9 or 10s. Coh, gyok and maatsen all top class.
Could easily been 7 or 8. BBC reckons we had 27 shots....14 on target.
Could easily been 7 or 8. BBC reckons we had 27 shots....14 on target.
robbiethemole
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I wonder if DL’s approach was different to MR’s and he’s said go out and enjoy yourselves cos it was almost like the fetters were off, a bit like the last ten games last year and the year before.
Maybe it’s all planned to go wild for the last 10 games every season?
Maybe it’s all planned to go wild for the last 10 games every season?
jimmyhillsfanclub
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The problem with 45 mins of football like that is it still turns me daft.....
...I drunkenly lumped on us getting promoted....
...I drunkenly lumped on us getting promoted....
This approach would be a very efficient way to get fired from your job. I think Lawrence said himself that the game plan was entirely Robins, as you would expect.
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I genuinely have no idea how much regard they have for Tavares but alternatively they could be limiting his minutes as he is raw and inexperienced and they want to introduce him slowly so as not to ruin his confidence. Only time will tell.
shmmeee
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Just watched the replay on iFollow. Thought COH, Györkeres, Maatsen, JCS and Hamer were all excellent. Don’t get people asking why Rose put the ball out before their goal, if he hadn’t their striker would’ve got to it, it wasn’t definitely heading out. Thought Rose had a good game as did Dabo.
fernandopartridge
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Yeah, you only need to look at this board to see that fans expectations of him are wholly distorted
shmmeee
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Only seen him in the flesh for ten mins or so, but he looks very very raw.
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And that expectation can very quickly turn against a player, especially young players.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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You could argue the same of Tavares. We keep on saying that we never have games where we can bring young players on when the game is won or there's nothing to play for. Here was a perfect opportunity to give a youngster time against a defence his attributes should have been perfect to exploit. Instead we bring on a 30+ ageing striker to give him minutes and confidence.
If he needs minutes and confidence for goals give him a few U23 games, with the added bonus of letting other youngsters learn from him. If he sulks it'll tell you everything you need to know about his attitude. As you point out he nearly scored. Didn't actually score though.
I don't think Waghorn has done that badly the last couple of games (though he was awful for many before that) but if we're not going to use opportunities like that to give younger players some experience then we never will and we may as well sack off the younger teams and use the funds from all their wages/coaches etc to pay a first team player or two.
I don’t dislike the guy, I just think it’s very odd that after we win 4-1 and our first choice strikers play very well, people still want to moan about why Tavares didn’t play. Sounds like he’s the main attraction for some people now!
stevefloyd
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Even Allen was outpacing their defenders just think what a rapid hungry young striker would have done to them
KenilworthSkyBlue
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No one has really said they dislike him have they? IMO I just think we've been at this juncture before with regards to overhyping U23 players.
I think if anything what's probably more strange is the sheer obsession with Tavares / the constant second guessing of Robins for not giving him 5 minutes or so at the back end of games.
The fact the management team aren't giving him regular game time week in week out probably suggests they don't think he's good enough yet. Not sure why fans think otherwise when they're not the ones watching him day in day out in training.
One wonder goal shouldn't really force the management team's hand or change their opinion.
Nick
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Guess it depends what you want from games.
Jordan Shipley to come on to defend a 0-0 or Tavares to try and get you the win.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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I'd obviously want to bring on the players that would give us the best chance of winning.
But if the management team decide that's Waghorn over Tavares for instance how can we actually question that when the latter hasn't even played the equivalent of a full half yet?
No you’re quite right, I don’t want us to try and win games, and that’s why Tavares must stay benched at all costs.
