Nick
Administrator
I "think" the point isn't that it isn;t running, just all the shouting about how great it will be for Wasps / CCFC / Events when they were told it wouldn't be able to support those kinds of things
Are the CCC and N&BBC responsible for the rolling stock, operating the rail service and electrification of the line?
An SAG is actually made up of several bodies including the emergency services. Again are they responsible for rolling stock, operating the rail service and electrification of the line?
Not sure what point you're making here.
Don't talk nonsense! Do you think the EU would have given the money if CCC and others had not applied for it, and JUSTIFIED it??? Easy answer, they wouldn't!People should understand that the funding for this was EU, nothing to do with Local Govt or CCC.
Elf an safety will determine whether it is safe to use on match days which will be partly due to no. Of trains per hour, no of carriages, etc. These are variables and likely to improve over time.
Are you 12?
Hate to be the bearer of the truth but no council is to blame whether that be CCC or N&BBC. Both councils have done what they're supposed to have done it's the electrification of the line that's been the issue, or rather lack of. That's down to central government. It's them who have failed to deliver or more accurately failed to make sure that what was supposed to be delivered as line upgrades has happened. A whole section going all the way to Warwick I believe was supposed to have been electrified and this upgrade also included new stations at Bermuda and the Ricoh. Both N&BBC and CCC have kept up their ends of the bargain it's other parties that have stopped the project being completed.
I "think" the point isn't that it isn;t running, just all the shouting about how great it will be for Wasps / CCFC / Events when they were told it wouldn't be able to support those kinds of things
So the argument is we shouldn't have built the station at all until the improvements in 2017 are done? Would we still have got funding?
Coun McNicholas, deputy cabinet member (transport) said: “When the new station opens we will have one train an hour connecting Coventry City Centre to the Ricoh and on to Bedworth. “I am sure it will be well used by local people and on match days – rugby and football – it will provide an additional way for fans to get to games.”
Surely CCC are to blame for wasting money, as any sane organisation would have checked first whether the trains would come before spending the money on a station no one will use.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there funding for the station's both at the Ricoh and Bermuda by way of grants and both CCC and N&BBC were both faced with the choice of build and use the grants by a certain point in time or lose it? Meaning that either the stations wouldn't have got built or they would have been built fully at the expense of the local rate payer?
Also these trains that "no one will use" aren't services about to start at both stations?
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there funding for the station's both at the Ricoh and Bermuda by way of grants and both CCC and N&BBC were both faced with the choice of build and use the grants by a certain point in time or lose it?
Following the Strategic Rail Authority's (SRA) decision not to grant permission for a railway station on the site, these works were excluded. The exclusion of these works has meant that the budget allocated for the railway station was not utilised. These funds have been allocated to other parts of the scheme including the construction of the railway arches. However, the Council is still committed to securing a railway station as part of the Arena development and will be resubmitting its business case to the SRA. Should a railway station be built in the future, the Council would need to find the required funding.
The Council are proceeding with work to the archways, which are an essential part of any future railway station. This project involves the construction of two new access/egress routes using existing archways under the Coventry/Nuneaton railway line, between the Ricoh Arena and Arena Park. These new routes would also provide the pedestrian linkage between platforms for a new rail station subject to HM Railways Inspectorate approval. The estimated costs for work to the archways are £0.9m and are subject to change given that the extent of ground contamination will not be known until the work has commenced on site and the outcome of Network Rail's approval process is known. This may cause delay and increased cost to the project. The quantum of potential increased cost is difficult to quantify at this stage since much of this is due to the extent that contamination is an issue. This cannot be assessed until works have progressed.
Members are asked to note that officers have varied the contract with Tony Gee and Partners (Rail engineers/architects) for an additional £15k above the agreed contract price for additional work to assist the Council's negotiations with Network Rail. It is currently anticipated that this cost can be absorbed within the current budget as a result of negotiations aiming to reduce the overall contract price.
Regrettably, the project has had to forego a proportion (£0.3m) of the ERDF funding originally allocated to the project as a contribution towards the railway station construction costs, due to the Strategic Rail Authority/Department for Transport's 'turn around' regarding the railway station.
Just checked train prices from Reading to arena station & its quoting £51.70 its only £19.60 to Cov station, so doubt I would use it
You just buy separate tickets thenJust checked train prices from Reading to arena station & its quoting £51.70 its only £19.60 to Cov station, so doubt I would use it
Again that is about managing expectations. If thats the case they should have been making that clear. Say we're building it now or the grant goes and then when the line is upgraded there will be matchday services.
So what were your expectations for a project that was announced in 2013 was facing delays for various reasons and now won't be completed until 2017 at the earliest?
Mine wouldn't be for it to be completed and running at full capacity in the first month of 2016. But hey, maybe I'm the stupid one.
What didn't help though was a Councillor stating how great the station would be on match days despite being told by London Midland at inception that wouldn't be the case. I know you like to hold the council in almost holy reverence but they mislead the people of Coventry from the outset.
So it's been said that there never be any trains ever on match days? Last I heard it would when electrification has been completed and electric rolling stock can then be used. Has that changed? Is that what you're saying?
So what were your expectations for a project that was announced in 2013 was facing delays for various reasons and now won't be completed until 2017 at the earliest?
So it's been said that there never be any trains ever on match days? Last I heard it would when electrification has been completed and electric rolling stock can then be used. Has that changed? Is that what you're saying?
If they pull it out of the bag then fair play to them.
But hey, maybe I'm the stupid one.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there funding for the station's both at the Ricoh and Bermuda by way of grants and both CCC and N&BBC were both faced with the choice of build and use the grants by a certain point in time or lose it? Meaning that either the stations wouldn't have got built or they would have been built fully at the expense of the local rate payer?
Unless you know different when the upgrades are completed that's still the plan as far as I'm aware. Has something changed on that front?
People should understand that the funding for this was EU, nothing to do with Local Govt or CCC.
Elf an safety will determine whether it is safe to use on match days which will be partly due to no. Of trains per hour, no of carriages, etc. These are variables and likely to improve over time.
The council have confirmed there is no guarantee that the line will be electrified or that the London Midland will be able to ever schedule enough trains without a fifth platform.
They acknowledge that for it to work it is more than likely to be diesel rolling stock
Whose fault is it again?
Don't try and be clever, Tony. The council were either incredibly naive or were misleading people for a PR opportunity.So it's been said that there never be any trains ever on match days? Last I heard it would when electrification has been completed and electric rolling stock can then be used. Has that changed? Is that what you're saying?
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