Right who's the next manager then? (19 Viewers)

CoventryUSA

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Would this guy even be on our radar?
How would Austin/King/Roberts be aware of him!? (How are you even aware of him!?)

I'm late to respond to this. But I know him because I'm an American who watches more MLS than any other league. Also, I'm within the MLS media sphere.

As mentioned by the other, I am not sure how King is conducting the search. But if he is using any sort of analytics-based firm, then Nancy's name absolutely would pop up as a top candidate.
 

sotvtoday

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Well if they’re employed that’s probably a good reason why they’re not being mentioned! Also, do they have a record of being good at this level, or have they just been good with a club.
Rob Edwards @ Luton, a great season with a team he inherited, which is now struggling, but didn’t work at Watford.
Russell Martin didn’t reach the play offs with Swansea for 2 seasons, did well with Southampton but they have a good team.

For me, a record would be with a couple of clubs across a number of seasons
Steve Bruce?
 

Legia Sky Blue

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interesting that we are talking about either big names with limited to no experience of managing in and / or getting out of the Championship (other than, tenuously, Lampard), OR lower league managers unproven at this level, but there’s little to no mention of anybody who has any real recent record of managing in our league and getting teams out of it…..

This is why it was plainly ridiculous to get rid of MR so early in the season. Nobody we bring in will be as qualified as he was to take us forward. We are basically relying on DK getting lucky with the next man he brings in.

I can't remember if you were one of the people wanting him out or not, but it is frankly ironic that some of those posters who did, are now calling out any likely candidate as underwhelming or not up to it.
 

fernandopartridge

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This is why it was plainly ridiculous to get rid of MR so early in the season. Nobody we bring in will be as qualified as he was to take us forward. We are basically relying on DK getting lucky with the next man he brings in.

I can't remember if you were one of the people wanting him out or not, but it is frankly ironic that some of those posters who did, are now calling out any likely candidate as underwhelming or not up to it.

Robins has never got a team promoted from this division either, and that isn't the defining criteria that King is saying he's going to use anyway.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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This is why it was plainly ridiculous to get rid of MR so early in the season. Nobody we bring in will be as qualified as he was to take us forward. We are basically relying on DK getting lucky with the next man he brings in.

I can't remember if you were one of the people wanting him out or not, but it is frankly ironic that some of those posters who did, are now calling out any likely candidate as underwhelming or not up to it.

I was on the fence, and I am pretty much the same about Lampard - I wouldn’t say underwhelming or not up to it, but I think for instance Graham Potter or someone of that ilk would have made a massive statement of intent

for every Rooney there’s a Kompany or a Carrick though, and actually Lampard’s win ratio was pretty impressive across Derby and his first couple of years spell at Chelsea so who knows….
 

Ccfcisparks

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I was on the fence, and I am pretty much the same about Lampard - I wouldn’t say underwhelming or not up to it, but I think for instance Graham Potter or someone of that ilk would have made a massive statement of intent

for every Rooney there’s a Kompany or a Carrick though, and actually Lampard’s win ratio was pretty impressive across Derby and his first couple of years spell at Chelsea so who knows….
Graham potter was never going to happen in a million years
 

blunted

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Just read an article about why Mowbray was removed at Sunderland in a radio interview oop north. Sounds familiar a new dynamic (ho ho) set up with a Director of Football, an interfering Owner who wanted to dictate team selection and bringing in young players for increasing their worth. Mowbray welcomed some of the burden of all the decisions being taken from him but not the Owner telling him which team he should pick. He ignored the Owner so it was bye bye Mowbray.
 

fernandopartridge

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Potter has never been promoted or even reached the play offs in this division. Brighton finished higher after he'd left! He won 12 games in the season they finished 9th with 51 points. Cov got more than that under Strachan in 1998. He's probably the most overrated manager in the game, pure vibes.
 

PVA

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Potter has never been promoted or even reached the play offs in this division. Brighton finished higher after he'd left! He won 12 games in the season they finished 9th with 51 points. Cov got more than that under Strachan in 1998. He's probably the most overrated manager in the game, pure vibes.

The flip side to that would be that they finished 17th the season before he joined and finished 9th in his last season so he improved them significantly.

And laid the groundwork leaving them in a better position than when he joined, allowing the next manager to build on and take them further.
 

Deity

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Robins total managerial performance in the championship is bang average. It’s not even good, let alone the sort of track record that would give any owner a high degree of confidence that he would get your club promoted to the Premier League.

I think Mark has been brilliant for us by the way but that doesn’t mean i think he would have got us promoted.
 

shepardo01

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I'm late to respond to this. But I know him because I'm an American who watches more MLS than any other league. Also, I'm within the MLS media sphere.

As mentioned by the other, I am not sure how King is conducting the search. But if he is using any sort of analytics-based firm, then Nancy's name absolutely would pop up as a top candidate.
I think that it is clear to see that there is no such use of any analytical data!... Sadly....
 

PVA

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Robins total managerial performance in the championship is bang average. It’s not even good, let alone the sort of track record that would give any owner a high degree of confidence that he would get your club promoted to the Premier League.

I think Mark has been brilliant for us by the way but that doesn’t mean i think he would have got us promoted.

What?!

Comfortably survived with a newly promoted team on a shoestring budget, then improved year on gear to finish 12th and then 5th, a kick or two from the Premier league.

In what way is taking a club from newly promoted to touching distance of the PL on a relative pittance 'not even good'?

The revisionism from some about Robins' tenure is ridiculous.
 

Deity

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What?!

Comfortably survived with a newly promoted team on a shoestring budget, then improved year on gear to finish 12th and then 5th, a kick or two from the Premier league.

In what way is taking a club from newly promoted to touching distance of the PL on a relative pittance 'not even good'?

The revisionism from some about Robins' tenure is ridiculous.
How many seasons has Mark managed in the championship ? 8
How many top 8 finishes ? 1

If you want to get promoted that isn’t a good track record.

I totally agree that its only the last 2 1/4 seasons has he had a squad that should have made the top 6, but he hasn’t defied the odds in the way say McKenna did last season, or Edwards the season before.
 

RobinsSkyBlues

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Robins total managerial performance in the championship is bang average. It’s not even good, let alone the sort of track record that would give any owner a high degree of confidence that he would get your club promoted to the Premier League.

I think Mark has been brilliant for us by the way but that doesn’t mean i think he would have got us promoted.
Yes. Losing on penalties in the playoff final proves your point.
 

ccfcchris

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Neil Warnock (born 1 December 1948) is an English football manager and former player who is currently football advisor at Torquay United. He is also a television and radio pundit. In a managerial career spanning five decades, Warnock has managed sixteen different clubs from the Premier League to non-league. Within English football, he holds the record for the most promotions, with eight, and the most games as a professional manager, with 1626, beating the previous record of 1601 set by Dario Gradi.[3]
 

Monty

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Just carried out some number crunching from the date of the Robins viveash falling out over the telegraph article. Last season after the fall out there were 9 matches we got 7 points. This season 14 matches 15 points. So 23 matches 22 points. Well below Robins normal Chamionship average with us. I think Lampard RVN etc will be capable of improving on that tally.
 

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