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Deity · Feb 27, 2024

The last few weeks we have heard MR moan about squad size and the number of matches the players are playing etc etc ….. if you are 3-0 up at home to a non league side who have not had a shot on target and you choose to bring on proven players rather than give minutes to young players you have no right to moan about player fatigue.

The transfer window is shut and there is f all we can do about squad size now and I don’t want to hear any more MR comments on it. It’s negative and not helpful. Going forward this season it’s about giving players belief and not giving anyone a reason / excuse to fall short.

chiefdave · Feb 27, 2024

It's almost like he's not actually pissed off with King for not going crazy in the January window and his comments are expectation management aimed at supporters

Nick · Feb 27, 2024

Did find it strange he didn't chuck the youngsters on who were on the bench.

Londonccfcfan · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
The last few weeks we have heard MR moan about squad size and the number of matches the players are playing etc etc ….. if you are 3-0 up at home to a non league side who have not had a shot on target and you choose to bring on proven players rather than give minutes to young players you have no right to moan about player fatigue.

The transfer window is shut and there is f all we can do about squad size now and I don’t want to hear any more MR comments on it. It’s negative and not helpful. Going forward this season it’s about giving players belief and not giving anyone a reason / excuse to fall short.

The rest of the players are non league level at best and would have been bullied.

Can't risk on national TV giving Maidstone a sniff even if they got a goal back...with their 5k backing...it would have got nervy.

There really was no need to tinker. Proffesional job done. Satisfied woth the performance.

lord_garrincha · Feb 27, 2024

I think it's been stated on here by ITKs in the past that MR will not play kids for the sake of it & you have to earn the right to play... whether you agree with that is another thing.

Brighton Sky Blue · Feb 27, 2024

lord_garrincha said:
I think it's been stated on here by ITKs in the past that MR will not play kids for the sake of it & you have to earn the right to play... whether you agree with that is another thing.

Did give Kai Andrews 5 seconds against Boro

Evo1883 · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
The last few weeks we have heard MR moan about squad size and the number of matches the players are playing etc etc ….. if you are 3-0 up at home to a non league side who have not had a shot on target and you choose to bring on proven players rather than give minutes to young players you have no right to moan about player fatigue.

The transfer window is shut and there is f all we can do about squad size now and I don’t want to hear any more MR comments on it. It’s negative and not helpful. Going forward this season it’s about giving players belief and not giving anyone a reason / excuse to fall short.

I'm sure Robins will take your comments into consideration

stupot07 · Feb 27, 2024

Nick said:
Did find it strange he didn't chuck the youngsters on who were on the bench.

Yeah that's the only disappointment really. It would have been good to give Lusala and Andrews 15-20 minutes at least.

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skybluecam · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
The transfer window is shut and there is f all we can do about squad size now and I don’t want to hear any more MR comments on it. It’s negative and not helpful. Going forward this season it’s about giving players belief and not giving anyone a reason / excuse to fall short.

He obviously wanted more depth in Jan and didn’t get it, and will inevitably get blamed if/when our form dips. King & the recruitment department should have done more.

Sakamoto’s injury is going to expose our lack of depth even more.

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

skybluecam said:
He obviously wanted more depth in Jan and didn’t get it, and will inevitably get blamed if/when our form dips. King & the recruitment department should have done more.

Sakamoto’s injury is going to expose our lack of depth even more.

The fact we don’t have a credible wide player in the under 21’s isn’t Kings fault though is it …..

skybluecam · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
The fact we don’t have a credible wide player in the under 21’s isn’t Kings fault though is it …..

…no?

the fact we didn’t get one in Jan is either his or the recruitment team’s though.

play_in_skyblue_stripes · Feb 27, 2024

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Did give Kai Andrews 5 seconds against Boro

Someone has made the point that the development teams and structure is no longer good enough in comparison to the rise in first team status. Cant keep buying 4-5 million on league 1 players and need some useful players coming through
25 players are allowed in squad but that can be supplemented by u21 players. Unfortunately those u21 players don't appear to be good enough. I am surprised that a couple of players were not given a few minutes at end of game.

Incidentally , in researching how best to get back from West Brom using google maps, noticed what looks to be impressive academy building next to the ground. Maybe West Brom used some of the premiership windfall wisely

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

skybluecam said:
…no?

the fact we didn’t get one in Jan is either his or the recruitment team’s though.

We did. We signed EMC ? We know that Posh changed the goal posts on him joining us late in the day of the last day of the Window.

skybluecam · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
We did. We signed EMC ? We know that Posh changed the goal posts on him joining us late in the day of the last day of the Window.

He’s not at the club though is he…

We were sitting in the playoffs through using a 4231/433 with one (1) natural wide player at the club. It was obvious we needed someone in Jan and we didn’t get it.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Feb 27, 2024

Londonccfcfan said:
The rest of the players are non league level at best and would have been bullied.

Can't risk on national TV giving Maidstone a sniff even if they got a goal back...with their 5k backing...it would have got nervy.

There really was no need to tinker. Proffesional job done. Satisfied woth the performance.

To be fair - if we blew a 3-0 lead at home to Maidstone none of the youth players we’d have brought on will never make it our our level

gspotgaz · Feb 27, 2024

We are where we are. Absolutely no point moaning about it constantly. Next year we’ll have a strong squad with permanents wherever we end up.

Deleted member 9744 · Feb 27, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
To be fair - if we blew a 3-0 lead at home to Maidstone none of the youth players we’d have brought on will never make it our our level

My understanding is the most promising of our youth players are in the 16/17 age range or are currently out on loan (Burroughs and Howley). So yesterday wasn't really the opportunity although I was slightly disappointed Andrews wasn't given some minutes late on.

napolimp · Feb 27, 2024

To be fair, the intensity level of that game was so low, it was probably worth getting some minutes into all the first teams legs before Friday. Not exactly like anyone was busting a gut.

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

skybluecam said:
He’s not at the club though is he…

We were sitting in the playoffs through using a 4231/433 with one (1) natural wide player at the club. It was obvious we needed someone in Jan and we didn’t get it.

That’s football. Every club will have a similar story.

skybluecam · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
That’s football. Every club will have a similar story.

Cliche nonsense.

Our recruitment failed in Jan and that’s left us short for this season. Is it the end of the world? No. Has it had a significant impact to our chances of playoffs/promotion? Yes.

Happy_Martian · Feb 27, 2024

napolimp said:
To be fair, the intensity level of that game was so low, it was probably worth getting some minutes into all the first teams legs before Friday. Not exactly like anyone was busting a gut.

These were my thoughts too. Play as professionally as possible to make the game safe and then rest those that need it. After it went 3-0, all eyes would have been on the WBA game and making sure the starting 11 were rested and injury free. Wrighty is the only concern, subbed at halftime due to a knee problem.

O'Hare was the only one really pushing after halftime and it could be said he was playing for the cameras, his agent and any scouts in the crowd.

Senior Vick from Alicante · Feb 27, 2024

I think the point about "earning a place" that Robins has supposedly said is correct. If you take Tavares in isolation last night he should have been champing at the bit to get at their full back, he looked lost at times. He scored late on due to tiredness on their part, the first goal was well finished though. You want your young players that need to prove that they are worth it to have the desire and ability to have a real go in games like that, it shows the manager that you want it and you believe in your self and that you are good enough at higher levels. I know he's been out with injury but last night he should have possibly been able to put a marker down and like a lot of youngsters didn't.

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

Senior Vick from Alicante said:
I think the point about "earning a place" that Robins has supposedly said is correct. If you take Tavares in isolation last night he should have been champing at the bit to get at their full back, he looked lost at times. He scored late on due to tiredness on their part, the first goal was well finished though. You want your young players that need to prove that they are worth it to have the desire and ability to have a real go in games like that, it shows the manager that you want it and you believe in your self and that you are good enough at higher levels. I know he's been out with injury but last night he should have possibly been able to put a marker down and like a lot of youngsters didn't.

Tavares isn’t a wide player he’s a striker. He is also a very inexperienced player. It was clear last night that he didn’t know how to play out wide but his runs looked more natural when he moved into the central role.

bawtryneal · Feb 27, 2024

It was like a pre season friendly/training session for the substitutes. Today they will have day off !
I think MR got it bang on and didn't give Maidstone one stiff of a goal or comeback second half.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Feb 27, 2024

The one for me is Kelly.

Unused sub 11 times since coming back from his injury in November.

ccfcchris · Feb 27, 2024

Didn't Tavares say that was his first full game for 14 months?

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

bawtryneal said:
It was like a pre season friendly/training session for the substitutes. Today they will have day off !
I think MR got it bang on and didn't give Maidstone one stiff of a goal or comeback second half.

It’s all about opinions ….. Klopp took a different view to you on Sunday when he was prepared to play unproven kids in a cup final against experienced pro’s. Those young players will have benefited immeasurably from that experience, ours may have benefitted too. I doubt Eccles or MVE got anything from their cameos.

Grendel · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
It’s all about opinions ….. Klopp took a different view to you on Sunday when he was prepared to play unproven kids in a cup final against experienced pro’s. Those young players will have benefited immeasurably from that experience, ours may have benefitted too. I doubt Eccles or MVE got anything from their cameos.

Our unproven kids may just not be good enough?

Grendel · Feb 27, 2024

ccfcchris said:
Didn't Tavares say that was his first full game for 14 months?

Its I think the first in his career isn’t it?

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

Grendel said:
Our unproven kids may just not be good enough?

Maybe.

You would hope 2 of them could have been added to the team for 15-20 mins against non league opposition who were tired and beaten though without putting at risk our victory.

bawtryneal · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
It’s all about opinions ….. Klopp took a different view to you on Sunday when he was prepared to play unproven kids in a cup final against experienced pro’s. Those young players will have benefited immeasurably from that experience, ours may have benefitted too. I doubt Eccles or MVE got anything from their cameos.

Huh !!
Completely irrelevant and different scenario. Because they won Klopp is a hero. If they had lost then he would have been a clown.
Also, Liverpool squad depth is completely different to ours.

Deity · Feb 27, 2024

bawtryneal said:
Huh !!
Completely irrelevant and different scenario. Because they won Klopp is a hero. If they had lost then he would have been a clown.
Also, Liverpool squad depth is completely different to ours.

You’re not seriously suggesting that our squad depth is better than Liverpools are you ?

The truth is most managers would not have been brave enough to take off tired proven pro’s and replace them with kids in a key match…. Klopp isn’t most managers. He’s a world class manager.

I don’t think a single City fan thinks we would have lost that match last night if we had given 1 or 2 young players 15 mins at the end last night.

Brylowes · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
You’re not seriously suggesting that our squad depth is better than Liverpools are you ?

The truth is most managers would not have been brave enough to take off tired proven pro’s and replace them with kids in a key match…. Klopp isn’t most managers. He’s a world class manager.

I don’t think a single City fan thinks we would have lost that match last night if we had given 1 or 2 young players 15 mins at the end last night.

The difference being ‘Klopp wouldn’t hesitate to select any of those youngsters who won the League Cup on Sunday for any game’ league decider, FA Cup final even a Champions League final because he trusts them & he knows they’re good enough.
Surely you can figure out why Robins is hesitant to throw our youngsters in.

fernandopartridge · Feb 27, 2024

Deity said:
It’s all about opinions ….. Klopp took a different view to you on Sunday when he was prepared to play unproven kids in a cup final against experienced pro’s. Those young players will have benefited immeasurably from that experience, ours may have benefitted too. I doubt Eccles or MVE got anything from their cameos.

Unproven kids from a top academy in one of the biggest clubs in Europe

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Saddlebrains · Feb 27, 2024

He isnt happy

As stated previously, hes not going to walk and theres been no big fall out so theres no need to worry

He's just pretty disappointed that hes got to where the owner asks of him to be, In January, and wanted 2 or 3 in (not counting EMC as hes not here yet) to take us over the line. He wasnt backed, and its riled him, hence the comments and strange subs etc.

For once hes basically of the same thinking of the supporters. You cant be Top 6 in Jan, demand a cup run and play offs whilst not getting in the players asked for because they 'wont be ours'.

As i said previously, Dougs doing a good job, but this aspect he needs to change, quality loans get sides promoted, we've seen it time and again. And im sure he'll learn that

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