portugal are not average. inf act the euro 2016 squad was hailed as the new golden generation (j mario,bernado silva,ronaldo,andre silva,renato sanches,carvalho) etc. they will do alright at world cup too
basically you like ronaldo cos he "did it in england" lol as if messi wouldnt if he came here
and maradonna won a world cup and league with napoli. great achievements.
messi has won everything multiple times at club level and was a higuain finish away from winning world cup himself. not having the hes never won a world cup argument
hes the greatest player on the planet
use your noggin
You know you're losing when you resort to Sky Blue Kid tactics like that
answer the points
you are marking him down because of a pen shoot out that his team mates missed not him.
Messi won 4 of his 5 ballon dor's during the golden Barcelona period where one of his team mates was also in the top 3, either Xavi or Iniesta (and Neymar when he won his 5th)
Would Barca have won the 07 & 09 Champions Leagues without Messi, quite possibly, they were that good. Would Real have won back to back CL titles without Ronaldo, absolutely not.
Facts can't be argued with and until Messi wins something with anyone other than Barcelona CR7 will have the edge.
I dunno maybe body faltering? Phenomenal shape but he relies on athleticsim more than messi. Im sure hes still in great condition but feel likes hes become more of a poacher last few years than taking people on and in cuttinf in etcI do get the feeling CR has either burnt himself out, struggling for motivation or just simply getting old. Or is he saving himself for one last push at the World Cup?
(if you have sky)
old ronaldo defintley up there. who else can seriously rival messi? this is more to do with you thinking foreign football is shit again.
no not ronaldo who i can understand you said many others you would put over messi and cr7So I’m claiming foreign football is shit by saying that a Brazilian who didn’t ever play for an English club is better than a Portuguese bloke that did?
no not ronaldo who i can understand you said many others you would put over messi and cr7
so please name them all, you must have loads. you said "many"
just curious
I’d have Ronaldo, Figo, Giggs, Henry, Shearer, Rivaldo and Raul in attacking positions over either/both of them. I’d also say the likes of Maldini, Adams, Cannavaro, Seaman, Schmeichel, Casillas, Pique, Scholes, Keane, Xavi, Iniesta, Viera, Pirlo and Zidane were all either equally or more important as CR & LM when it came to contributing towards their teams successes.
You're mentalI’d have Ronaldo, Figo, Giggs, Henry, Shearer, Rivaldo and Raul in attacking positions over either/both of them. I’d also say the likes of Maldini, Adams, Cannavaro, Seaman, Schmeichel, Casillas, Pique, Scholes, Keane, Xavi, Iniesta, Viera, Pirlo and Zidane were all either equally or more important as CR & LM when it came to contributing towards their teams successes.
You're mental
Most of them. A lot of them were let go relatively easily and very few players in football have been as important for as long as both Messi and Ronaldo have for their sides.Clarence Seedorf too. How are any of those that I’ve mentioned less important to their respective sides than Messi or Ronaldo?
you've lost the plot you massive mentalist. go and have a lie down.I’d have Ronaldo, Figo, Giggs, Henry, Shearer, Rivaldo and Raul in attacking positions over either/both of them. I’d also say the likes of Maldini, Adams, Cannavaro, Seaman, Schmeichel, Casillas, Pique, Scholes, Keane, Xavi, Iniesta, Viera, Pirlo and Zidane were all either equally or more important as CR & LM when it came to contributing towards their teams successes.
people are missing the fact he thinks Tony Adams is just as important as Messi. I've read some shite on this website but that takes the cake
agree!
i like cj as hes a huge cov fan and goes cov and england game religiously
but i respectively disagree with his comments on world football
Ryan fucking Giggs better than Lionel Messi hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahah
I’d have Ronaldo, Figo, Giggs, Henry, Shearer, Rivaldo and Raul in attacking positions over either/both of them. I’d also say the likes of Maldini, Adams, Cannavaro, Seaman, Schmeichel, Casillas, Pique, Scholes, Keane, Xavi, Iniesta, Viera, Pirlo and Zidane were all either equally or more important as CR & LM when it came to contributing towards their teams successes.
Zico was a fantastic player, equally as good if not better than Beckenbauer. There are a whole host of players that could be considered equal to the ones on your list.If your talking about the best ever, then it really should be a list of very few...
For example,
Messi
Maradonna
Cruyff
C. Ronaldo
Pele ...maybe even Garrincha (some older Brazillians are adamant he was the better player)
Eusebio...
Beckenbaur
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