bringbackrattles
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Nobody uses them anymore. Scrim and a squeegee is usual. But an elderly customer put vinegar in instead of liquid few months back, and since many customers do the same.
Rugby World Cup (5 Viewers)
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bringbackrattles
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That's because Ireland weren't in the final then ?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Boring AF
MusicDating
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Yup exactly what I said on my mates' group chat. One rugby following mate was saying it was a great match, he genuinely couldn't understand why the rest of us thought it was boring. It was the equivalent of watching 1980's Wimbledon.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Or Rangers at the Nou Camp
Otis
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Or Dale Winton at the Very Camp.
Adge
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England Rugby World Cup final and people turn it into an anti Wasps somehow!:emoji_smile:
Otis
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Good. Should always be so.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Same sport the whole game needs weakening so this will help, World Cup wins create interest losing finalists get forgotten about.
Houchens Head
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Read me like a book BBR!
SkyBlueZack
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It was a difficult watch but that’s in part because were England fans. I can see how people have said it was boring, it was a defensive masterclass. You can’t attack if you can’t defend. South Africa had a game plan, implemented it and as it worked became more attacking. Hats off to them, they were everything they needed to be today.
CanadianCCFC
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How do you even defend in rugby? Just tackle the opposite enough times that eventually they drop the egg?
Brighton Sky Blue
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It was boring when they did it against Wales last week too. Might be fun for the purists but for the rest a reminder of why the sport struggles to expand interest beyond the hardcore
Otis
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Yup. It may have been tactically excellent from the Springboks' perspective, but it made for terrible viewing.
Rugby at its very worst and I have never, ever enjoyed it even when England have deployed such tactics.
As has been said, it was like Wimbledon of the 80's and 90's.
A real entertainment killer.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The sport is at its best with end to end attacks and massive solo runs. But too many arbitrary penalties for not releasing the ball under a pack of overweight men
Otis
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Yup. I never understand the penalty thing. Seems the tiniest little infringement and it can be an almost guaranteed 3 points.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Not releasing
Not rolling away
Guaranteed penalties for when the ref needs to bump up the score
Otis
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And it can ridiculous, because at times you cannot roll away because you are trapped and at times you are so squashed under the pile it is very hard to release the ball.
oscillatewildly
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It is an extremely technical sport - that doesn't mean to say it is superior to any other that has less apparent rules and employs a more 'free flowing' style, and at times it does make difficult watching. Unlike association rules football, rugby football is a game I think you have to have played a bit to understand the rules and therefore to appreciate what's going on.
Like soccer, you are solely responsible for your actions when making a challenge - get it wrong and you are culpable for potential penalty. In rugby you need an effective 'escape strategy' when you go to ground! The 'dark arts', as in soccer play a part in these situations too.
SBAndy
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Agree with all of that apart from the “have to have played” tag. Never played rugby but feel I’ve watched enough to have a good handle on the rules. There was certainly some inconsistency with the holding calls yesterday but with SA committing more bodies generally to breakdowns it was difficult. We needed to play a bit more expansively at times to open the field up, and SA are far too willing to play a territorial game which hinders the quality of match.
Think Elliot Daly has had a rather poor tournament all in all, and his place must now be under threat at full back. Never really understood why Alex Goode hasn’t had more of a chance in the national setup but it’s probably too late for him now. Don’t watch enough club rugby to know the other options.
oscillatewildly
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There's very little that escapes the referees eye these days (none at all at the level of WC with VAR) but 'interpretation' still plays a part in a lot of refereeing decisions.
I only played the game briefly in young adulthood (I can honestly count on one hand the amount of game time during 5 yrs secondary schooling when we played it.)
'Playing to your strength' will always be the best tactic in any team sport, and boy do SA have that strength thru their pack and therefore in scrum situations which as we saw regularly contributed to their score tally.
Their defence at times brought a (begrudging) admiration. You're right, not a great spectacle but I didn't tune in to be entertained, I was hoping England could move the immovable, which had it happened would and should have deserved plaudits on a par with what they received seven days prior.
Only follow Cov - on and off for a number of years but had a ST at BP for the last couple of season. Only very occasionally tune in to the Prem rugby highlights show so don't afford myself any great exposure to be confidently critical of national team selection. However, I agree with your Elliot Daly point - y'day with very little opportunity for any gain to be achieved with pace was crying out for him to play the game of his life but he just didn't show when that rare opportunity arose. He wasn't alone.
Completely different tactics (and strength) from different opponents made for a different playing field which we were disappointingly unable to combat.
England one day cricket team for the 'team of the year' award it is then!
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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One thing that annoys me is when one team are trying to bring the scrum down yet the opposition team are penalised for collapsing the scrum. Is it any wonder there is such a massive problem around scrums that no amount of 'crouch, bind, set' will fix.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Same for most sports. Stuff ex-pros find fascinating from a technical perspective are very dull as spectacles. Most people go to sport as entertainment, not to closely analyse the defensive strategy.
oscillatewildly
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Otis, I never had you down as a philistine!
oscillatewildly
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Those 'dark arts' at work, as previously mentioned.
Otis
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It can be a wonderful game, but at times it is incredibly boring.
In which other sports do you see so many of the crowd fast asleep during actual play?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But it makes the game incredibly shit to watch. So much so I'm now turning to the opinion it'd be better if they just got rid of them altogether.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Quite a bit of booze is drunk so many have a little nap, I was never a huge drinker but at a test match even I managed to drink 12 pints of lager (missed a lot of the game pissing though)
SkyblueBazza
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Most people & pundits seem to agree that he is. Still able to make errors though I guess
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SkyblueBazza
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I think they felt a bit like they were being mugged. Just werent allowed to settle in any way & were unable to cope with the relentless pressure SA exerted.
Credit to them, not a pretty performance overall by any stretch but solid everywhere throughout.
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