Gazolba
Well-Known Member
We're just a small insignificant island. Can we really be expected to defeat a massive country like Australia? Australia will be beating us at football next.
Well that makes a hattrick in football, rugby and cricket in just over a year of not making it out of a group. Honestly what a complete and utter joke our (men's) national teams are.
We're just a small insignificant island. Can we really be expected to defeat a massive country like Australia? Australia will be beating us at football next.
Hopefully next time round the organisers will give us going into games, a 100 run start in cricket, a 14 point lead in rugby union and 2 own goals in our favour in football.Population doesn't count for much in sport as New Zealand show. What matters is a) infrastructure, b) enthusiasm and c) natural talent. Choking against Wales was typical of what the team has done under Lancaster, though not as bad as the cricket where the tournament is designed to almost guarantee us a place in the knock out.
Hopefully next time round the organisers will give us going into games, a 100 run start in cricket, a 14 point lead in rugby union and 2 own goals in our favour in football.
No point in going into major detail about this, were a young side and the 2019 World Cup was always the aim anyway. In reality this World Cup came to soon for our group, having home advantage I thought would have propelled us up but unfortunately it dragged us down and heaped pressure on us we just couldn't handle.
At this moment in time we are not as good at Rugby as Wales and Austrailia, no need to rip up any plans (which is what English people want us to do after national failure) we just need to stick at the original plan and keep on improving. Lancaster should 100% stay.
Paddy's just won Houch. I reckon I'm turning Irish as I was on the Guinness yesterday !Oh dear! Ah well. Ireland will show them how it's done!!
Hooch !The Paddy's won Houch? Is that some kind of tinpot cup?
The Paddy's won Houch? Is that some kind of tinpot cup?
I think people are being overly critical of England to be honest. 4 of the 5 teams could have gone through from that tournament. Having said that I'll be shocked if he keeps his job, but I do feel for him.
I don't dislike him, I actually think we played well in spurts, we're unlucky with the group (we're a better side than a couple who'll make the knockout stages) and I can even 'accept' us losing to Australia as they just played better of two decent teams.
The way we collapsed against Wales though...
And ultimately we don't look like winners. So ultimately given the fact we played well in patches so have the talent in the side, you probably have to blame the coach for us not being able to close games out, or hit the level consistently enough.
I agree it does pretty much rest with the coaching staff - the decision with bringing ford on and moving Farrell over was odd; but the media will push this "failure" far more than it needs to be done. They lost the Wales game because Biggar's kicking was tremendous, and at the final hurdle they threw to no.2 in the lineout - the initial decision was the right one IMO. They went for hero or zero and it didn't work - that is life. Let's not pretend this team is anywhere near as good as the 2003 one. People need to wake up.
I think people are being overly critical of England to be honest. 4 of the 5 teams could have gone through from that tournament. Having said that I'll be shocked if he keeps his job, but I do feel for him.
the team lack a killer instinct.
No they lost the Wales game because they were poorly disciplined and had the game wrapped up. They lost their structure and an intelligent wales team took advantage of this. I last decision really shouldnt have been a factor albeit i bet he wished he went for a draw. Aussies would have blown us out of the water regardless in my opinion
Let's face facts England don't do World Cups in most sports,Football,Rugby,Cricket. So who's going to win the trophy ? Could South Africa even after losing to Japan ? The All Blacks haven't exactly been on fire as yet but you can guarantee they'll step up a gear or two. Could it be an outsider like France ? Love to see a home nation team go all the way though.I pondered on an Australia v New Zealand final before it started but still unsure !
RFU getting slaughtered in the media for there selection policy of not selecting players playing abroad
RFU getting slaughtered in the media for there selection policy of not selecting players playing abroad
Works for New Zealand.
which helped them win the game???England only conceded 1 more penalty than Wales.
...yet doesn't work for us......
Tbf, from what I've read the New Zealand players all bugger off for 2-3 years playing abroad and in Europe gaining that experience of different coaches, different styles of play, before returning to New Zealand for the World Cup year to get picked. That said they have a pool of better quality player than we do, so can afford to leave people out.
Arguably our best player doesn't get picked because he's plays abroad.
In football, I don't think enough of our players go and get experience abroad, it would improve the national side. Can you imagine Argentina not picking Messi, Ageuro, etc or Portugal not picking Ronaldo because they don't play in their country of origin?
Seems the RFU want to have their cake and eat it, signing a big money deal which will help clubs bring the best talent in including bringing in the best foreign players to improve their league, increase interest and therefore make it more profitable, but don't want a to let English players play abroad.
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nope those other countries have sense. Australia pick people from outside of their country dont they??
Anyway every knows its Sam Burgess's fault! :facepalm:
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