Rumour from the boardroom (34 Viewers)

[MalcSB]

I doubt it, this feels like the last opportunity. If the EU commission who wrote the rules, and are likely to be the strictest enforce of them (unlike our left wing judiciary), can’t find anything then I think it will be game over in terms of the sale of the Ricoh.

 

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[chiefdave]

I doubt it, this feels like the last opportunity. If the EU commission who wrote the rules, and are likely to be the strictest enforce of them (unlike our left wing judiciary), can’t find anything then I think it will be game over in terms of the sale of the Ricoh.

If the EC don't proceed I think that's the end of the road isn't it. Is it possible for any other action to be taken without starting up a whole new case?

Of course for Wasps and the council it might be a case of careful what you wish for. If I recall correctly the club and its owners offered to sign up to taking no further action as part of a deal to stay at the Ricoh. As Wasps backed out of that deal I would assume that has fallen away leaving the path clear for SISU to do anything they please.

 

[ccfc1234]

I doubt it, this feels like the last opportunity. If the EU commission who wrote the rules, and are likely to be the strictest enforce of them (unlike our left wing judiciary), can’t find anything then I think it will be game over in terms of the sale of the Ricoh.

I hope against a backdrop of UK government institutions removing EU involvement in our decision making processes. They might use this case as an opportunity to flex their regulatory muscles!

 

[ccfcway]

I doubt it, this feels like the last opportunity. If the EU commission who wrote the rules, and are likely to be the strictest enforce of them (unlike our left wing judiciary), can’t find anything then I think it will be game over in terms of the sale of the Ricoh.

Can’t sisu then start civil action ?

 

[MalcSB]

Can’t sisu then start civil action ?

I think the civil action would be more likely to follow a finding of state aid, it would give a firm basis for civil action. If no such finding I doubt they would have any options left.

 

[MalcSB]

I hope against a backdrop of UK government institutions removing EU involvement in our decision making processes. They might use this case as an opportunity to flex their regulatory muscles!

I don’t think they can, and why would they bother with what is, in the grand scheme of things, a piddling little case. Acting macho over this could be counter productive in the long run. I’m sure there are bigger fish to fry across the whole range of future relationships and undertakings with Europe.

 

[ccfc1234]

I don’t think they can, and why would they bother with what is, in the grand scheme of things, a piddling little case. Acting macho over this could be counter productive in the long run. I’m sure there are bigger fish to fry across the whole range of future relationships and undertakings with Europe.

Agree at the strategic leader level this will not be on anyone's radar at all. However, those reviewing the case are most likely to be far removed from those lofty echelons and might have an ideological axe to grind with UK Goverment institutions. Could be wishful thinking on my part.

 

[Ibby]

Time will tell.

 

[steve1987]

I, like thousands of others wont go, I miss it, many of my mates go, I’ve been very tempted but I can not watch my team play home games outside the city - and I believe my not going will ultimately help us return.
All this crap about its better than playing at the Ricoh or rather stay in Brum cos the pitch and the pubs are better is a sad sad state of affairs .... city should play in our city

 

[Terry_dactyl]

I, like thousands of others wont go, I miss it, many of my mates go, I’ve been very tempted but I can not watch my team play home games outside the city - and I believe my not going will ultimately help us return.
All this crap about its better than playing at the Ricoh or rather stay in Brum cos the pitch and the pubs are better is a sad sad state of affairs .... city should play in our city

I think people are making the best of a bad situation. I don’t believe anyone prefers cov being in Birmingham.
If you can afford it, and it’s not too much of a pain In the arse in terms of travel, my advice is to get yourself up there.
As far as I can see these are the only two reasons not to attend. Especially if you miss it and are “very tempted”. I mean, and this may be controversial, it’s only football, it’s hardly a huge moral decision. It some time feels like people are proclaiming that they’re conscientious objectors or something. Get up there and enjoy watching city again!

 

[clint van damme]

I, like thousands of others wont go, I miss it, many of my mates go, I’ve been very tempted but I can not watch my team play home games outside the city - and I believe my not going will ultimately help us return.
All this crap about its better than playing at the Ricoh or rather stay in Brum cos the pitch and the pubs are better is a sad sad state of affairs .... city should play in our city

I, and many others have said it is better than playing at the Ricoh I stand by that.
However most, including me, still want us to return to Cov.
I believe those saying stay in Brum are a very small minority.

 

[ccfc1234]

I, like thousands of others wont go, I miss it, many of my mates go, I’ve been very tempted but I can not watch my team play home games outside the city - and I believe my not going will ultimately help us return.
All this crap about its better than playing at the Ricoh or rather stay in Brum cos the pitch and the pubs are better is a sad sad state of affairs .... city should play in our city

Totally entitled to take a moral stance and not go. But lets not forget we're a club in exile because our stadium has been occupied. If we go back as things are it will not be on ideal terms. If your intention is to get us back to the Ricoh regardless of the long term issues it puts the club in, your strategy may work. But in the meantime, the manager, the team and the club could do with your support.

 

[MalcSB]

Agree at the strategic leader level this will not be on anyone's radar at all. However, those reviewing the case are most likely to be far removed from those lofty echelons and might have an ideological axe to grind with UK Goverment institutions. Could be wishful thinking on my part.

I hope you are right.

 

[Hadji's_Goatee]

For me it’s simple. I prefer us to stay in Brum for the rest of the season; Resaons:

• Going back to Ricoh isn’t long term sustainable
• Going back helps support Wasps financially
• I hate Wasps
• The Ricoh playing surface is an absolute joke

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I, like thousands of others wont go, I miss it, many of my mates go, I’ve been very tempted but I can not watch my team play home games outside the city - and I believe my not going will ultimately help us return.
All this crap about its better than playing at the Ricoh or rather stay in Brum cos the pitch and the pubs are better is a sad sad state of affairs .... city should play in our city

Deluded. Your actions will make absolutely no difference. You are just missing out on watching some fabulous football

 

[zuni]

Deluded. Your actions will make absolutely no difference. You are just missing out on watching some fabulous football

Not Pete from chelyesmore by any chance?

Wtf is he deluded, your acid comments bring nothing but fragment our fan base
He is entitled to his opinion, drop the childish comments

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

If SISU go back it will be purely a decision based on cash flow , if we don’t go back then I strongly believe it will be Starving the Wasp nest . It could end up good for us , is it still up in the air if anything at all true ?

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

For me it’s simple. I prefer us to stay in Brum for the rest of the season; Resaons:

• Going back to Ricoh isn’t long term sustainable
• Going back helps support Wasps financially
• I hate Wasps
• The Ricoh playing surface is an absolute joke

They are sensible reasons good post

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not Pete from chelyesmore by any chance?

Wtf is he deluded, your acid comments bring nothing but fragment our fan base
He is entitled to his opinion, drop the childish comments

No although I am from cheylesmore I’m not that one. Course he is but I’m just pointing out his actions make no difference. How’s that childish or fragmenting the fan base? Don’t be so sensitive

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

If SISU go back it will be purely a decision based on cash flow , if we don’t go back then I strongly believe it will be Starving the Wasp nest . It could end up good for us , is it still up in the air if anything at all true ?

They’ll be movement after the finances are sorted this year as the parent company losses and what can be used will change after

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

They’ll be movement after the finances are sorted this year as the parent company losses and what can be used will change after

What I will say is that there is a giant slice ignorance in respect to SISU finances , any and I mean any hedge has done well since Trump , I can easily see SISU running the Cov aspect at a loss , it’s nothing to them ,a bad trading day could account for. Cov loss all year and in turn a good day covers Cov . It’s all about Tax no doubt some self appointed prick will tell me otherwise but I know reality having done it myself .

 

[Houchens Head]

I would have preferred to have moved back to our beloved Highfield Road...….. Ah, well. I can but go back to sleep and dream.....

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I would have preferred to have moved back to our beloved Highfield Road...….. Ah, well. I can but go back to sleep and dream.....

The flats haven't been a big success. All we need to do is win the Euromillions...

 

[The coventrian]

Totally entitled to take a moral stance and not go. But lets not forget we're a club in exile because our stadium has been occupied. If we go back as things are it will not be on ideal terms. If your intention is to get us back to the Ricoh regardless of the long term issues it puts the club in, your strategy may work. But in the meantime, the manager, the team and the club could do with your support.

Our ground is occupied because sisu decided to break the lease to try and bust acl.
They also repeatedly said that they were not interested in the ricoh as they were building their own ground.
Lets not lie about why we're at the pig sty.
What exactly did you expect the council to do with a 32k empty stadium? Mothball it just incase sisu were lieing?
We're here because sisu fucked up big time.
Yes the council were courting wasps before we left but were they at the ricoh before we left? No. Look closer to home to point the finger.

 

[The coventrian]

For me it’s simple. I prefer us to stay in Brum for the rest of the season; Resaons:

• Going back to Ricoh isn’t long term sustainable
• Going back helps support Wasps financially
• I hate Wasps
• The Ricoh playing surface is an absolute joke

Pathetic.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

For me it’s simple. I prefer us to stay in Brum for the rest of the season; Resaons:

• Going back to Ricoh isn’t long term sustainable
• Going back helps support Wasps financially
• I hate Wasps
• The Ricoh playing surface is an absolute joke

Fucking hell

 

[christonabike]

If people don’t go to Brum we won’t have a club to come back or is this too much to comprehend?
Wasps have us over a barrel yet people want us back at a huge financial disadvantage what ever as long as we play in “Cov”.
We will just continue to be a small team in the 3rd division forever. Travel costs ffs it’s £5 return at many places and your back in Coventry by 6.30 at the latest.
We want our own destiny we all do but it has to be achieved and going back cap in hand isn’t going to do it.
Half the people I speak to vow never to go but these don’t go to more than 5 games a year at the Ricoh! Unless we have a huge money pot and fook Wasps off it’s either play second fiddle and go back or suffer 6k attendances until a better deal can be done.

 

[ccfc1234]

Our ground is occupied because sisu decided to break the lease to try and bust acl.
They also repeatedly said that they were not interested in the ricoh as they were building their own ground.
Lets not lie about why we're at the pig sty.
What exactly did you expect the council to do with a 32k empty stadium? Mothball it just incase sisu were lieing?
We're here because sisu fucked up big time.
Yes the council were courting wasps before we left but were they at the ricoh before we left? No. Look closer to home to point the finger.

SISU are not blameless but the price they were quoted for the ricoh was far too high so they made a commercial decision to leave and try and prove the asset was over priced by distressing it to drive the price down. Surely this is their right as a business? While that happened wasps were courted and given a deal far better than the one we refused. It is for that reason I blame the Council on two levels. 1. They were unrealistic with what they tried to charge us for the Ricoh and 2. They offered a sporting franchise a better deal than we were ever offered as they were so bitter that we proved that the stadium was over priced all along.

Business is brutal and SISU played hard ball to make the Council understand how wrong their valuation was. The council then gave the stadium away cheaply amd in an underhand way to the point it could be called state aid to a rugby club as a two fingers to CCFC and SISU.

 

[Hadji's_Goatee]

SISU are not blameless but the price they were quoted for the ricoh was far too high so they made a commercial decision to leave and try and prove the asset was over priced by distressing it to drive the price down. Surely this is their right as a business? While that happened wasps were courted and given a deal far better than the one we refused. It is for that reason I blame the Council on two levels. 1. They were unrealistic with what they tried to charge us for the Ricoh and 2. They offered a sporting franchise a better deal than we were ever offered as they were so bitter that we proved that the stadium was over priced all along.

Business is brutal and SISU played hard ball to make the Council understand how wrong their valuation was. The council then gave the stadium away cheaply amd in an underhand way to the point it could be called state aid to a rugby club as a two fingers to CCFC and SISU.

Nail on the head - great post

 

[Flying Fokker]

If people don’t go to Brum we won’t have a club to come back or is this too much to comprehend?
Wasps have us over a barrel yet people want us back at a huge financial disadvantage what ever as long as we play in “Cov”.
We will just continue to be a small team in the 3rd division forever. Travel costs ffs it’s £5 return at many places and your back in Coventry by 6.30 at the latest.
We want our own destiny we all do but it has to be achieved and going back cap in hand isn’t going to do it.
Half the people I speak to vow never to go but these don’t go to more than 5 games a year at the Ricoh! Unless we have a huge money pot and fook Wasps off it’s either play second fiddle and go back or suffer 6k attendances until a better deal can be done.

Difficult to argue with that one. But SISU is killing CCFC. If we stay as nomads the club might as well fold or rebrand. Then the travellers will have decisions to make. Would they then support the new club. Probably.

 

[MalcSB]

Difficult to argue with that one. But SISU is killing CCFC. If we stay as nomads the club might as well fold or rebrand. Then the travellers will have decisions to make. Would they then support the new club. Probably.

Wasps stance is killing CCFC

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

christonabike " wont have a club to come back to" and "over a barrel" we probably look at things differently .When we were trying to get a deal for this season having said they would drop the legals Sisu threw in the request to the EU a decision which stopped the deal their chose but it was a costly mistake. I think over a barrel yes but our own doing as for stayaways going the teams name says it all .The attendance figures show the gates are down by at least half (given the form probably more) they will never learn.

 

[Covstu]

We need to weigh up the value of 3-4k more on the attendance or keeping consistency at SA. I would prefer to stay for the remainder of the season, see it out and have a more productive discussion at the end of the season. We are in a weak bargaining position at the moment and would move back to a shit pitch to finish the season which could derail us completely.
I hear people saying we would get 17k back there if we moved, I think we all know that’s nonsense and previous seasons demonstrate this, we need to get back home but we can’t put the club at risk by a catastrophic deal which limits us down the line

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Deluded. Your actions will make absolutely no difference. You are just missing out on watching some fabulous football

He's not deluded at all. He's one of several thousand who simply refuse to go to Birmingham. I respect his stance. I also respect all those that go to St Andrews.

 

[Corrado]

Pathetic.

Quite the contrary- a sensible post to secure the club