Liquid Gold
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That's it my prettys keep the thread going.
The player sales figure comes from looking at the last few years accounts, look under profit on sale of player registrations, 2016 was £2.5M, 2015 was £2.7M. I assume profitability continues at a slightly lower rate and SISU get 50%. Yes Nick, profit on player sales has been over £5M in the last 2 published accounts!
Ryton I assume gets permission for housing and sold. I have heard figures of £6M bandied about so allowing £4.5m isn't even optimistic.
As for promotion, it will come within 3 years even with a conveyor belt of talent being sold on surely, I only said 'more or less guaranteed' not "nailed on certainty". Widdrington is there to enhance the flow from National League isn't he, do you not think he will do a good job?
Because I doubt very much that they've got it.If Hoffman and co are the certain of achieving such levels of return why don't they stump up the equivalent value in cash so the club hasn't got SISU on its mind for the next few years?
If Hoffman and co are the certain of achieving such levels of return why don't they stump up the equivalent value in cash so the club hasn't got SISU on its mind for the next few years?
Cash flow my boy, cashflow.
i.e. They haven't got it and instead want to leverage the club's only remaining assets. As if SISU would really settle for that.Cash flow my boy, cashflow.
Looks like Hoffman is calling it a day trying to deal with people who don't want to invest properly in the club .I would like to thank him and all his friends for his efforts and hope that in the future when the wheels finally come off (not too soon I think ) that they are around to try and salvage the club. Thanks again.
Explain if it's you didn't like their efforts hope your pleased with Sisu .If it's me for thanking them so be it but at least they gave a few of us a bit of hope in the last couple of weeks.Christ
Explain if it's you didn't like their efforts hope your pleased with Sisu .If it's me for thanking them so be it but at least they gave a few of us a bit of hope in the last couple of weeks.
I would love the club to be taken over by no owners withExplain if it's you didn't like their efforts hope your pleased with Sisu .If it's me for thanking them so be it but at least they gave a few of us a bit of hope in the last couple of weeks.
If Hoffman and co are the certain of achieving such levels of return why don't they stump up the equivalent value in cash so the club hasn't got SISU on its mind for the next few years?
Just for arguments sake Hoffman has got that amount of money, but only just! What does he take the Club forward with if he gives it all to Sepalla?
Was never convinced Hoffman and co had what it was going to take, but I don't blame Them for
trying, just desperate fans 'who like most can see nothing good in our future under SISU.
At the start they obviously believed that SISU were wanting out, that's evidently not the case,
Years of JRs and appeals ahead, not to mention relegation.
Where has it been proved he hasn't got the best interests any money he is prepared to put in he ready to lose which says a lot to me and your 2nd point no one can guarantee but can't be no worse than current ownersI would love the club to be taken over by no owners with
Unfortunately, GH & Co hasn't demonstrated it can meet either criteria. I've nothing to say thank you for, false hope is probably worse than no hope.
- the club's best interests at heart
- who wouldn't repeat the mistakes of the past.
The 20k season tickets, commercial initiatives, fan funding etc.
His bid is based on leveraging the club's assetsWhere has it been proved he hasn't got the best interests any money he is prepared to put in he ready to lose which says a lot to me and your 2nd point no one can guarantee but can't be no worse than current owners
I don't think there's any doubt,If SISU lose the JR (here's hoping!) then I wonder if they will be more receptive to future offers.
I don't think there's any doubt,
Also it keeps being asked if they can pursue the legal process after relinquishing control of the club, I would imagine they can ' but I really don't think they'd want to.
If by some miracle they manage to win the JR, they will obviously be looking for compensation, if they are still here
They can say the actions against us have forced us down to this level.
Worryingly the lower we are as a club, they may see as better for their chances.
Well yeah. But then his lordship could point out that the derisory offer you acceptedIf they did sell for a derisory offer they could also claim it was derisory because of the detrimental effect that the events covered in the JR had on the value of the club as any compensation claim.
Maybe it's a good indication that they don't expect to win the JR that they won't sell. Either that or GH's offers haven't been derisory enough for them to sell and then play the victim in any compensation claim.
I don't know I've never really seen it specified as to what is being bid on in any reports, only what you have continually told us when saying it was a terrible offer so I thought you knew for fact or was it just assumption?Any one actually clear as to what is being bid for? I am no longer certain
a) ownership of Otium
b) assets less football creditors
c) something else
I cannot see why anyone would buy Otium
The same way as now I guess Kid. CCFC has to be able to walk on is own two feet. Perhaps no difference - except the owners aren't taking interest on any loans?Just for arguments sake Hoffman has got that amount of money, but only just! What does he take the Club forward with if he gives it all to Sepalla?
The same way as now I guess Kid. CCFC has to be able to walk on is own two feet. Perhaps no difference - except the owners aren't taking interest on any loans?
Fisher is a **** but his vision of self sufficiency is valid. We can't rely on sugar daddys, or finding the next wonder kid from the youth team to sell at a healthy profit.
The trouble is - with CCFC there is so much money involved (owed) with such small asset & relatively little turnover, anyone investing is only ever going to have their own financial interests at heart.I would love the club to be taken over by no owners with
Unfortunately, GH & Co hasn't demonstrated it can meet either criteria. I've nothing to say thank you for, false hope is probably worse than no hope.
- the club's best interests at heart
- who wouldn't repeat the mistakes of the past.
Thats exactly what Joy said.I would love the club to be taken over by no owners with
Unfortunately, GH & Co hasn't demonstrated it can meet either criteria. I've nothing to say thank you for, false hope is probably worse than no hope.
- the club's best interests at heart
- who wouldn't repeat the mistakes of the past.
Best offer Sisu will ever get unless Hoffman ups his bid. Same as his last offer was.
There will be no new offer.
We remain hostage to Sisu.
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