Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (56 Viewers)

stupot07 · Apr 20, 2017

Participation in sport in australia 2015 study

8th Dec 2016

Football is comfortably the most popular club sport in Australia, boasting more than one million players across the country, a new survey has revealed.

The Australian Sports Commission’s landmark AusPlay report was unveiled on Thursday, examining a range of issues from what sports people play, how often they are active, their motivation for getting fit and how much Australians spend on being active.

The data is comprised of answers from more than 20,000 adults and 4000 children and is the first report of its ilk since the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) pulled the plug on sport data two years ago.

Football was streets ahead of its nearest rival, with 1.086 million players – based on population estimate – involved at club level in Australia.

Golf (685,732) was second, followed by Australian rules football (635,627) and netball (625,721) while cricket was sixth and rugby union did not feature at all.

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Sky Blue Kid · Apr 20, 2017

Nick said:
Or even just trying to find out more information about it.

It's exactly the same as when KCIC did that offer, anybody who asked any sort of question was defending SISU.

It's laughable.

Own up Nick.. When ever anyone has a dig at SISU you're on it like flies round shit mate.

Nick · Apr 20, 2017

Sky Blue Kid said:
Own up Nick.. When ever anyone has a dig at SISU you're on it like flies round shit mate.

Link to it then?

As I have said, this is exactly the same as the KCIC offer where anybody asking for information or anything about the "offer" is defending SISU.

It's the go to line. Again, it's laughable.

SkyBlueZack · Apr 20, 2017

Incredible that people are not willing to ask any questions just to get rid of SISU. Just a thought, but what if the new owners are just as bad. We have to be careful, we can't have shit owners again. We need to ask questions and find out details. Did we really do that when SISU took over? Or were we all just relieved at being 'saved'? I have always been taught to ask questions, not sure how it makes you a SISU fan. Asking questions broadens your knowledge, is that a bad thing?

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 20, 2017

Nick said:
Link to it then?

As I have said, this is exactly the same as the KCIC offer where anybody asking for information or anything about the "offer" is defending SISU.

It's the go to line. Again, it's laughable.

OK!... LINK....

Nick said:
Link to it then?

As I have said, this is exactly the same as the KCIC offer where anybody asking for information or anything about the "offer" is defending SISU.

It's the go to line. Again, it's laughable.

That good enough for you?

rybccfc · Apr 20, 2017

Sky Blue Kid said:
OK!... LINK....

That good enough for you?

Lol boom!

robbiekeane · Apr 20, 2017

Sky Blue Kid said:
OK!... LINK....

That good enough for you?

So hold on...an offer is made for the club, people want to know what the offer was and that's defending SISU?

torchomatic · Apr 20, 2017

robbiekeane said:
So hold on...an offer is made for the club, people want to know what the offer was and that's defending SISU?

That's the way it works with Tony and SBK the worst offenders for it.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 20, 2017

robbiekeane said:
So hold on...an offer is made for the club, people want to know what the offer was and that's defending SISU?

Well actually we don't know if an offer has been made and that's the beauty of it all.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 20, 2017

robbiekeane said:
So hold on...an offer is made for the club, people want to know what the offer was and that's defending SISU?

So hold on!.. I suggest you re-read my post again. #1648.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Apr 20, 2017

Anybody else heartened by the fact these rumours are being pushed by Simon Gilbert? Last time there was a rumour he was on here shooting it down...

I'm really grasping a straws here

Irish Sky Blue · Apr 20, 2017

SkyBlueZack said:
Incredible that people are not willing to ask any questions just to get rid of SISU. Just a thought, but what if the new owners are just as bad. We have to be careful, we can't have shit owners again. We need to ask questions and find out details. Did we really do that when SISU took over? Or were we all just relieved at being 'saved'? I have always been taught to ask questions, not sure how it makes you a SISU fan. Asking questions broadens your knowledge, is that a bad thing?

Do fans have a veto over who Sisu will sell to?
I think we are already the unluckiest set of fans over the last 10 years. How unlucky would we be to get owners worse than Sisu? Impossible in fact because no one is worse than Sisu.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 20, 2017

torchomatic said:
That's the way it works with Tony and SBK the worst offenders for it.

I suggest you do the same as robbiekeane.....

weecohawena · Apr 20, 2017

Heartened? He published an article last week that helped you avoid notorious charity collectors.

torchomatic · Apr 20, 2017

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Anybody else heartened by the fact these rumours are being pushed by Simon Gilbert? Last time there was a rumour he was on here shooting it down...

I'm really grasping a straws here

Not really. He needs clicks to survive under the Trinity Mirror model so I don't think he's bothered if there's any truth in an article or not.

weecohawena · Apr 20, 2017

Irish Sky Blue said:
Do fans have a veto over who Sisu will sell to?
I think we are already the unluckiest set of fans over the last 10 years. How unlucky would we be to get owners worse than Sisu? Impossible in fact because no one is worse than Sisu.

I bet there is.

Sir Phillip Green
Theresa May
Chairman Mao

to think of a few

CCFC88 · Apr 20, 2017

Sky Blue Kid said:
Does this help?......

League attendance of team sports
Competition Sport Total
spectatorship Average
attendance Year Ref
Australian Football League Australian football 6,872,005 33,198 2016 [96]
Big Bash League Cricket 1,053,997 30,114 2016–17 [97][98]
Super Rugby Rugby union 773,940 19,348 2012 [99]
National Rugby League Rugby league 3,227,436 16,057 2016 [100]
A-League Soccer 1,778,844 12,706 2015–16 [101]
National Basketball League Basketball 574,813 5,132 2013–14 [102]
National Rugby Championship Rugby union 87,704 2,249 2014
Total attendance by sport
Sport Total
spectatorship Average
attendance Year Ref
Australian football 7,150,586 30,044 2016 [103]
Cricket 1,756,131 24,734 2016–17 [104][105]
Rugby union 771,521 18,818 2016 [106]
Rugby league 3,589,789 16,619 2016 [107]
Soccer 2,502,789 13,242 2015–16 [108]
Basketball 316,018 6,724 2015–16 [109]

Some quite sketchy figures here. What is the rugby Union figure made up of? All Super Rugby league games or just the ones played in Australia? Only 5 Union teams in Aus compared to 16 in NRL so average attendance is bound to be diluted. There are 6 NRL teams in Sydney alone, more than Union teams in the whole of Australia competing in Super rugby.

Back to the initial point made by Voice of nonsense, nothing here shows me that Rugby U is "massive" in Australia. I expect he knows very little on the subject and just shouted out the first thing that came into his head because he saw Australia lose to England in the latest world cup.

torchomatic · Apr 20, 2017

Sky Blue Kid said:
I suggest you do the same as robbiekeane.....

Don't need to. Just glance at your posting history.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Apr 20, 2017

Like I said... I'm really grasping a straws here!

Irish Sky Blue · Apr 20, 2017

weecohawena said:
I bet there is.

Sir Phillip Green
Theresa May
Chairman Mao

to think of a few

Phillip Green I might concede. Can you call May and Mao owners?

Nick · Apr 20, 2017

Sky Blue Kid said:
I suggest you do the same as robbiekeane.....

Have a read of the KCIC offer thread, in there it's where people got told they were defending SISU constantly for asking basic logical questions to a member on here who had made an offer to buy the club.

Again, it's the go to line.

"The rent will be paid if attendances are below 5000"
"What happens if it is over?"
"stop defending SISU".

ovduk78 · Apr 20, 2017

Chairman Mao would take none of the shit from the fans, he's been dead since 1976!!!

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 20, 2017

CCFC88 said:
Some quite sketchy figures here. What is the rugby Union figure made up of? All Super Rugby league games or just the ones played in Australia? Only 5 Union teams in Aus compared to 16 in NRL so average attendance is bound to be diluted. There are 6 NRL teams in Sydney alone, more than Union teams in the whole of Australia competing in Super rugby.

Back to the initial point made by Voice of nonsense, nothing here shows me that Rugby U is "massive" in Australia. I expect he knows very little on the subject and just shouted out the first thing that came into his head because he saw Australia lose to England in the latest world cup.

Wiki.. go to "Spectator 5" and it shows you more clearly in their graphs
Sport in Australia - Wikipedia

Danceswithhorses · Apr 20, 2017

SkyBlueZack said:
Just a thought, but what if the new owners are just as bad.

Really-is that possible ?
That's a bit of a long shot my friend

Nick · Apr 20, 2017

Danceswithhorses said:
Really-is that possible ?
That's a bit of a long shot my friend

The same was probably said last time, while Italia was making Gifs about SISU Saving Us and shouting at everybody to back them.

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 20, 2017

torchomatic said:
Don't need to. Just glance at your posting history.

So you don't actually know what I said!... fair enough.

Liquid Gold · Apr 20, 2017

I love sisu. That's why I'm hoping this offer isn't a publicity stunt and is a decent offer and actually exists.

sky_blue_up_north · Apr 20, 2017

Voice_of_Reason said:
If it is the Aussie it might be attractive to them as Rugby Union is massive down under. They could well work in conjunction with Wasps, the Man Utd of Rugby Union regarding sharing the Ricoh on attractive terms ?

League is far bigger most Aussie are not fused about Union

SkyBlueZack · Apr 20, 2017

Irish Sky Blue said:
Do fans have a veto over who Sisu will sell to?
I think we are already the unluckiest set of fans over the last 10 years. How unlucky would we be to get owners worse than Sisu? Impossible in fact because no one is worse than Sisu.

No we don't. Does that mean we shouldn't ask questions though? Find out potential owners intentions and plans? Could we get worse owners? I'd say yes on the basis that there are other clubs with bad owners. We live in a world with more than a fair share of greedy, deceitful people, that are just like SISU. It would be really bad luck to have shit owners again. This is why asking questions and finding out details is necessary to ensure we try and avoid a repeat situation.

Voice_of_Reason · Apr 20, 2017

CCFC88 said:
Some quite sketchy figures here. What is the rugby Union figure made up of? All Super Rugby league games or just the ones played in Australia? Only 5 Union teams in Aus compared to 16 in NRL so average attendance is bound to be diluted. There are 6 NRL teams in Sydney alone, more than Union teams in the whole of Australia competing in Super rugby.

Back to the initial point made by Voice of nonsense, nothing here shows me that Rugby U is "massive" in Australia. I expect he knows very little on the subject and just shouted out the first thing that came into his head because he saw Australia lose to England in the latest world cup.

I apologise for my mistake made without research or thought.

SkyBlueZack · Apr 20, 2017

Danceswithhorses said:
Really-is that possible ?
That's a bit of a long shot my friend

That's why I put if. Not beyond the realms of possibility though. Clubs are seen as toys by most owners, an ego boost, the want to be adored and a hero etc. We need owners who care only about the club and the community it is within. Owners like that are few and far between.

CCFC88 · Apr 20, 2017

Voice_of_Reason said:
I apologise for my mistake made without research or thought.

Apology accepted, you too Sky Blue Kid

Skyblueweeman · Apr 20, 2017

This thread - Rumour, coy Italia, Aussie sports participation and viewing stat, Nick and [insert name here] arguing (again)!, more rumours, Mao, Dot Cotton, Polar Bears and Pregnant Fish.

Magic.

Grendel · Apr 20, 2017

So my guess is;

Takeover fronted by you know who
Agreement in principal to stay at the Ricoh
Ground sponsorship hand in hand with said "takeover"
Details of "takeover" confidential but zero funds upfront with payback on achievement
"takeover" already been rejected and we need to get pitchforks at the ready.

Irish Sky Blue · Apr 20, 2017

SkyBlueZack said:
No we don't. Does that mean we shouldn't ask questions though? Find out potential owners intentions and plans? Could we get worse owners? I'd say yes on the basis that there are other clubs with bad owners. We live in a world with more than a fair share of greedy, deceitful people, that are just like SISU. It would be really bad luck to have shit owners again. This is why asking questions and finding out details is necessary to ensure we try and avoid a repeat situation.

You can ask the questions but I still don't see how you you can avoid who Sisu will sell to. No harm in asking the questions however so long as you get honest answers.
With regard to whoever takes over from Sisu, they would have to be pretty gormless if they thought that there was a crock of gold at the end of our particular rainbow. Anyone taking us over for purposes of greed would have to put in so much money first before they would have a hope of any return that you would have to wonder why they would do it. I suppose we could get someone who is well intentioned but useless at running a club. However that is still an improvement on Sisu.

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