torchomatic
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No me too. I just hope Hoff keeps improving the offer until SISU finally accept rather than just give up and wait another three years before the next one.
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No me too. I just hope Hoff keeps improving the offer until SISU finally accept rather than just give up and wait another three years before the next one.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Because it's the only chance I can see us ever getting rid of SISU. I'm not saying there shouldn't be a discussion, we absolute should be going through this with fine comb as much as possible. I'm just saying there is a massive over-scrutinisation from a few on here who are behaving as if they want the bid to fail.
I think it's only fair to ask questions of Hoffman/Elliott and their offer.
We should after all remember that Hoffman and Elliott were two of the directors on the first board after SISU came in. They wasted the golden opportunity to spend the first many, many milions to bring us forward.
They failed.
Their strategy was
1) Stabilize the finances - they failed!
2) Secure promotion to the PL - they failed!
3) Buy 50% of the stadium - they failed!
In fact - their failure laid the foundation the to hatret towards SISU. And they don't seem to have any decency to at least admit they carry some responsibility.
Why would anyone simply accept they are 'better' than SISU when they were 'acting as SISU' (just like Fisher is now) back when there was money and good will in abundance. They screwed up!
We should after all remember that Hoffman and Elliott were two of the directors on the first board after SISU came in. They wasted the golden opportunity to spend the first many, many milions to bring us forward.
They failed.
Their strategy was
1) Stabilize the finances - they failed!
2) Secure promotion to the PL - they failed!
3) Buy 50% of the stadium - they failed!
In fact - their failure laid the foundation the to hatret towards SISU. And they don't seem to have any decency to at least admit they carry some responsibility.
Why would anyone simply accept they are 'better' than SISU when they were 'acting as SISU' (just like Fisher is now) back when there was money and good will in abundance. They screwed up!
Nick
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Hobo
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It wouldn't be the same without all his adverts all over his posts. He seems to attract more sponsorship than SISU can?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Asking questions is fine. Belittling everything said for 76 pages not so much.
That's right, you don't need to.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Now you're arguing with me, why?
The two things are different.
Asking questions: fine.
Scrutinsing and belittling everything whilst acting as if you want the bid to fail: not fine.
Nick
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I was replying to somebody mentioning me directly?
Moff
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Mines CCFC. Is yours Wasps?
torchomatic
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No they are not hoping the bid will fail. There isn't one person who wants that. Your "as if" is as bad as Irish Sky Blues' "It's almost like..." statement.
Saying fans want the bid to fail because they are asking questions is ridiculous.
On one hand you say we should be going through this with a fine tooth comb yet in the next breath accuse people of wanting it to fail.
Maybe we can go through it with a fine tooth comb as long as we don't ask anything controversial or question anything in case we are labelled as someone who wants the bid to fail.
I repeat: it is out of our hands. Nothing we day on here will influence the outcome.
Moff
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I was thinking of a Hurricane Warrior Water Blaster, if only I could work out where to find one?
Hobo
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Well we should at least worry about potential new owners and what that will entail. However I can't see Fisher holding a fan's forum and asking "Are you guys happy for us to go ahead with this deal? If it's right for the club we will sell."
No if they are happy with the money they will be gone.
Liquid Gold
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I'm questioning the bid because I'm so desperate for sisu to go I want the bid to be as good as possible so they will take and be gone by sunrise.
What does that make me?
What does that make me?
skybluebeduff
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He knew 2 weeks ago that a bid was coming in and got mocked for it, until yesterday when everyone who mocked him got to eat humble pie. He has been bang on the money everytime, even said the first bid will be rejected knowing that the bidders had something up their sleeves. Simon Gilbert has completely embarrassed himself trying to mock it for the past 2 weeks and then who broke news of a bid? fucking Simon.
John doesn't get anything from this.
Moff
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You're being really over sensitive on this. I've not said anything like some of the comments some twatty people have thrown around earlier on like 'SISU lover' or whatever else. I'm just pointing out that there looks to be some people that are criticising for the sake of criticising.
I'm not saying we cannot ask questions, but there is a clear few that have consistently bashed this bid from page one until now.
Have some balance man and it will be taken seriously.
skybluetony176
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Post of the day.
#Jinxed
hutch1972
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7 figure sum up front with add ons of 25 mill , allegedly!
Edgey95
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Yeah I'm the only person whos mentioned new owners... my mistake
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That makes you completely fair game, you have the clubs interests at heart.
You've already highlighted clearly that you want the owners to go but for the bid to be credible.The point I'm making is that I'm finding some people consistently overly negative and unable to even show (in 76 pages) that they want the bid to succeed. I think however, due to some of the shitty comments thrown around earlier, some people are mudding my stance with the same people who were pointing the 'sisu lover' finger.
fernandopartridge
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Any incoming board would also have to strictly manage costs, it isn't something specific to SISU, it is a fact of life. Different to SISU, I hope they'd have a coherent plan for generating income, though I suspect that will take a long time to fully implement due to the various outsourced contracts etc. The group putting money in won't have a bottomless pit, I would be rather concerned if they came in and went on a splurge but then had to significant cut costs again due to running out of money.
What did he do while on the board is probably a better question.
I see where the username comes from. Just messing.
MusicDating
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What I'd like to hear about the bid is - commitment to level 2 academy...
ricoh extension agreed in principle...
increased playing budget...
rather than soundbites such as 'seven figures' and 'hard to turn down'.
And can't help feeling Wasps are going to be involved somehow...
ricoh extension agreed in principle...
increased playing budget...
rather than soundbites such as 'seven figures' and 'hard to turn down'.
And can't help feeling Wasps are going to be involved somehow...
He said a deal had been agreed? It hasn't...
torchomatic
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Over sensitive? I guess I could say the same when you accuse people of wanting the bid to fail. Let's just agree to disagree.
covcity4life
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agree on the first pts although they could be revealed later on?
not sure wasps involvement is a bad thing? we could become big alongside them perhaps? ricoh revenue etc from concerts blah blah
covcity4life
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no hes right torch
you,nick and others kind of wear it like a badge of honour
we love ccfc sooo much we back sisu and hate council wasps and we will do anything for ccfc no matter what and anyone that dont better not mcok us because we love ccfc!!!!!!!
Captain Dart
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Simple, if the bonus payment lapses after a few years and most of the payout mentioned is conditional on the club getting to the Premier league (or maybe even top half of PL).
In the absence of conditions being made public the headline figure means very little, it may simply be virtually unachievable.
skybluebeduff
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He told you all a bid was coming.... it did... twice...
Brylowes
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Nick will be leading a protest, throwing rubber Tim Fishers and Whistling like fuck.
