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[Chipfat]

I would expect him to be a bit down after today's news as i'm sure whatever bids are on the table they are more attractive to the major parties in this than Sisu could ever offer..This all maybe taken out of TF hands as big business is in play here and talk of not only the club but investment in the area creating jobs, transport links and development of the city will have higher implications and parties involved when decisions are to be made...

 

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[valiant15]

What exactly did fisher say tonight that was out of order? Genuine question.

 

[wingy]

The rest of the Talk was pretty much what you'd expect at the upcoming forum MOONY CONVERSIONS,We did these deals the, Council ACL reneged on it all .Asked him if he was double dealing as they were in Heads of Terms with Higgs while signing the deal with the Council (Aug12th) quoted ,that would see them take over the YB debt whike they paid an agreed rent of £10k per match .

 

[Steve.B50]

CJ on the Brinner got threatened thread, and some other dickhead a few weeks ago as well(Can't remember who that was though).

Well nothing like that was said and plenty of witnesses.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

To be fair that is true he told Gary that he wouldn't speak to him because he didn't like him then accused Brinner of texting him then said we need to talk like adults as he turned his back on us. I was also their one of the 10 supporters that bothered to turn up people on here keep saying what are the trust doing apart from Myself and Brokenhearted who are ex members all the rest were in the trust yes we will be back tomorrow hopefully we will have more turn up it was quite embarrassing at the turn out Fisher must have been laughing.

I told him that there was no Trust in Sissu to which he agreed I also told him that as most us fans are fickle that can now not be changed but to be fair to him did face us face to face' but as usual was not any of their fault all down to ACL as for the argument of getting money from match day sales he as much admitted that was never an issue as ACL had sold all the rights to refreshments for £ 4 million to compass so did not have the option of giving it to them so looks like we were thrown a googly again.


DON'T FORGET 9.30 HILTON HOTEL WALSGRAVE TOMORROW

WE NE$ED YOU THERE

there was no personal abuse towards fisher tonight, apart from the personal abuse that came out of fishers own mouth.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Well nothing like that was said and plenty of witnesses.

Don't think that anybody was suggesting that anybody said it to Fisher tonight, or to him at all.

Just on the forum, which is bad enough.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well nothing like that was said and plenty of witnesses.

I think his point is, expect Fisher to behave perfectly is fine, but there's a responsibility in all of us to do the same wherever, be it in person or on here.

And if we don't we lose the right to complain.

 

[Steve.B50]

Lets just hope and prey TF can see the light and decides to walk away, or else gets down on his knees at the door of ACL and begs them talk to him again.

 

[skybluesam66]

why are people saying we need to be nice to tim
Formany on here(judging by time people spend on here) ccfc is like a family member

sisu and tim are killing ccfc - they should not be allowed to do this without is at least protecting our club
agreed- it is nothing to do with his family - but if he is going to spout such controversial , threatening stuff about our club - he has got to expect the same back

 

[Sky blue north east]

The thing is - if he goes...who next? The might get some real headache in who has closed businesses down in the face of much worse than TF is getting from some quarters. Some of these people actually get-off on riling large groups of dissenters up into a frenzy & STILL just getting on with their job. Be careful what you wish for!

Am careful what i wish for...so glad turned down chance to go on jim'll fix it years ago!!!!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

why are people saying we need to be nice to tim
Formany on here(judging by time people spend on here) ccfc is like a family member

sisu and tim are killing ccfc - they should not be allowed to do this without is at least protecting our club
agreed- it is nothing to do with his family - but if he is going to spout such controversial , threatening stuff about our club - he has got to expect the same back

You don't have to be personal.

You can protest the issues, not the man.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Yes you can protest the issue but the Man needs to listen?

You don't have to be personal.

You can protest the issues, not the man.

 

[torchomatic]

Well, once people start showing a decent standard of behaviour on here then maybe it will have a knock on effect. Look at the personal abuse thrown at Fisher, Linnell, etc.

As I said many on here are happy to throw insults and abuse at people then react like hysterical schoolgirls if the person they abuse bites back. They're human. I think some on here forget that Fisher, Linnell etc are real people not just names.

I can see where you're coming from here, but I think it's not unreasonable to expect a decent standard of behaviour from those paid to represent the club.

If you were there and TF behaved like this towards you, with no good reason, then I think you'd feel upset too.

Having said that, some of the personal stuff about TF is way OTT. I dislike what he's doing to our club intensely, but it's nothing to do with his wife, kids, dog, car or how fat he is (or possibly, isn't).

Once you get into the personal stuff, then it tends to diminish rather than strengthen your argument, imho.

 

[skybluesam66]

if the man doesnt listen, when the issues are protested- you get a dictator - and we all know where that ends

 

[ajsccfc]

The fast track to Godwin's Law by the sounds of it.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

That is true but he started with the angry remarks then in the next breath he said we need to talk like Adults!!!
First you need to act like an adult to get the same in return......

Well, once people start showing a decent standard of behaviour on here then maybe it will have a knock on effect. Look at the personal abuse thrown at Fisher, Linnell, etc.

As I said many on here are happy to throw insults and abuse at people then react like hysterical schoolgirls if the person they abuse bites back. They're human. I think some on here forget that Fisher, Linnell etc are real people not just names.

 

[hill83]

That is true but he started with the angry remarks then in the next breath he said we need to talk like Adults!!!
First you need to act like an adult to get the same in return......

So 99% of people can here can't complain when they get shit then.

 

[duffer]

Well, once people start showing a decent standard of behaviour on here then maybe it will have a knock on effect. Look at the personal abuse thrown at Fisher, Linnell, etc.

As I said many on here are happy to throw insults and abuse at people then react like hysterical schoolgirls if the person they abuse bites back. They're human. I think some on here forget that Fisher, Linnell etc are real people not just names.

Brinner's human too. You can't tell me you'd be happy if TF walked across and accused you of sending abusive texts to him, this in front of a load of other people. It's not behaving like a "hysterical schoolgirl" to complain about that sort of behaviour. TF should know better.

FWIW, if TF's got a gripe like that, it would make more sense to refer it to the police than throw out accusations in front of all and sundry. Malicious Communications Act covers this sort of thing, as I recall.

 

[Otis]

I wish I was as hard as you.

Guess you'll find out if you do go to Rainbows and then do suddenly become hard.

 

[lordsummerisle]

FWIW, if TF's got a gripe like that, it would make more sense to refer it to the police than throw out accusations in front of all and sundry. Malicious Communications Act covers this sort of thing, as I recall.

Maye he has, but if anybody got pulled in by the police for it you can imagine the outrage on here.

 

[torchomatic]

Look at some of the stuff he has written about Fisher.

Brinner's human too. You can't tell me you'd be happy if TF walked across and accused you of sending abusive texts to him, this in front of a load of other people. It's not behaving like a "hysterical schoolgirl" to complain about that sort of behaviour. TF should know better.

FWIW, if TF's got a gripe like that, it would make more sense to refer it to the police than throw out accusations in front of all and sundry. Malicious Communications Act covers this sort of thing, as I recall.

 

[valiant15]

Guess you'll find out if you do go to Rainbows and then do suddenly become hard.

Ill take a trip down there with brinner and lord:-(

 

[letsallsingtogether]

Read my post not what I said
he started on the offensive shouting but then said we should all be Adults.
He never came across like that himself

So 99% of people can here can't complain when they get shit then.

 

[Nick]

It is the same as Kilbane, outrage he told a fan to fuck off. After the fan abused him about his disabled child....Fella deserved more than a fuck off!

 

[hill83]

Read my post not what I said
he started on the offensive shouting but then said we should all be Adults.
He never came across like that himself

I read your post "First you need to act like an adult to get the same in return......"
is exactly what you said.

My post was in reference to that. The shit people kick off on here then get all sore when it comes back on them.

I understand your point though. But even that was in response to abuse spouted on here.

 

[VegetableSamosa]

I strongly disagree with attacking the person. He's just trying to do his job and he's got an utter shit one. Just imagine what effect this is having on his home life, his family's life. I mean, I love this club as much as the next man and I don't agree with any of SISU's recent proposal's. But I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And if we don't attack him, he can't attack us in return. Let's be adults.

Instead, attack the policies of SISU he is being made to spout. And if he ignores you, or you can't get through to him, then you need to improve the message and quality of the protest, not the volume. We had a controversial politician speak at my University and the 200 angry protesters outside did nothing to stop him speaking, but our questions destroyed his position and made him back peddle like a cyclist who just found himself on the ring road. We need to leave emotion at the door when dealing with them; anger and knee jerk reactions will only make things worse. We need to engage them in conversation and show why we think this is a terrible idea and back it up with some sort of evidence, because god knows how many people they've got working trying to prove it is a good one. Use the consultations to consult and get our position, as fans, across in an intelligent, concise way.

And remember, there's a reason we wear the Phoenix over our hearts in this city.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

I would walk away. Then hunt down the cunts who threaten to involve my wife & kids and rip their balls off.

Wasn't that one post about 4 months ago? I can't see how that can be used now as justification for accusing a person of texting him abuse. Do we even know what abuse he's allegedly been texted?

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

Anybody doing that deserves a court injunction on their record - despicable behaviour. I hope nobody on this forum has played any part. If they have - shame on them!!!

Seems that those threats are mainly mentioned in this thread and saying they're a bad thing! Can somebody please tell me whether there have been new threats, this week? If there have, fine, it's completely out of order, but it mostly seems to be conjecture and bluster over something somebody invoked from months ago on here to try and make a point!

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

I think his point is, expect Fisher to behave perfectly is fine, but there's a responsibility in all of us to do the same wherever, be it in person or on here.

And if we don't we lose the right to complain.

So now we're taking collective responsibility? One person says something once and it therefore represents all of us forever?


Isn't there a bit of a disconnect between one idiot punter saying something on a forum and a very well paid company director losing his rag with one of his customers at a meeting?

 

[bigfatronssba]

If Fisher has a problem with threats to his family or abusive text messages then he should go to the police.

What he shouldn't be doing is going round accusing innocent people.

 

[Flying Fokker]

I strongly disagree with attacking the person. He's just trying to do his job and he's got an utter shit one. Just imagine what effect this is having on his home life, his family's life. I mean, I love this club as much as the next man and I don't agree with any of SISU's recent proposal's. But I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And if we don't attack him, he can't attack us in return. Let's be adults.

Instead, attack the policies of SISU he is being made to spout. And if he ignores you, or you can't get through to him, then you need to improve the message and quality of the protest, not the volume. We had a controversial politician speak at my University and the 200 angry protesters outside did nothing to stop him speaking, but our questions destroyed his position and made him back peddle like a cyclist who just found himself on the ring road. We need to leave emotion at the door when dealing with them; anger and knee jerk reactions will only make things worse. We need to engage them in conversation and show why we think this is a terrible idea and back it up with some sort of evidence, because god knows how many people they've got working trying to prove it is a good one. Use the consultations to consult and get our position, as fans, across in an intelligent, concise way.

And remember, there's a reason we wear the Phoenix over our hearts in this city.

I agree with these comments. Not sure I would take £300k plus per annum as a salary.

 

[Flying Fokker]

I can see where you're coming from here, but I think it's not unreasonable to expect a decent standard of behaviour from those paid to represent the club.

If you were there and TF behaved like this towards you, with no good reason, then I think you'd feel upset too.

Having said that, some of the personal stuff about TF is way OTT. I dislike what he's doing to our club intensely, but it's nothing to do with his wife, kids, dog, car or how fat he is (or possibly, isn't).

Once you get into the personal stuff, then it tends to diminish rather than strengthen your argument, imho.

Tim Fisher lives in a bubble. It will burst. . If he assaults someone he will have lost his 'Moral High ground'. : /

 

[Skybluerevolution (Pt2)]

I strongly disagree with attacking the person. He's just trying to do his job and he's got an utter shit one. Just imagine what effect this is having on his home life, his family's life. I mean, I love this club as much as the next man and I don't agree with any of SISU's recent proposal's. But I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And if we don't attack him, he can't attack us in return. Let's be adults.

Instead, attack the policies of SISU he is being made to spout. And if he ignores you, or you can't get through to him, then you need to improve the message and quality of the protest, not the volume. We had a controversial politician speak at my University and the 200 angry protesters outside did nothing to stop him speaking, but our questions destroyed his position and made him back peddle like a cyclist who just found himself on the ring road. We need to leave emotion at the door when dealing with them; anger and knee jerk reactions will only make things worse. We need to engage them in conversation and show why we think this is a terrible idea and back it up with some sort of evidence, because god knows how many people they've got working trying to prove it is a good one. Use the consultations to consult and get our position, as fans, across in an intelligent, concise way.

And remember, there's a reason we wear the Phoenix over our hearts in this city.

I wish I had said this....spot on!!:claping hands:

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Still think its better to stand outside and not engage in the forums. Fine if they buy Ccfc LTD but the club I'd not fisher holdings or Sisu currently

 

[lordsummerisle]

Seems that those threats are mainly mentioned in this thread and saying they're a bad thing! Can somebody please tell me whether there have been new threats, this week? If there have, fine, it's completely out of order, but it mostly seems to be conjecture and bluster over something somebody invoked from months ago on here to try and make a point!

It was only a few weeks ago originally(can't remember who by), and CJ still seemed to think it was a good idea to protest outside Fishers kids school in the "Brinner had a finger wagged at him" thread.

Mind you CJ does have the strangest ideas all round!