What is he not clear on? To check I wasn’t missing something I’ve shown it to a few people at work and everyone understood it to mean that the council won’t be providing financial support.
This seems to be his new tactic, keep saying everything isn't clear and there's confusion. Mentions it multiple times according to those minutes. Yet most other people seem to have no problem understanding all these points which leaves 2 options a) he's lying or b) he's not up to the job.
PW – there are plants all over the place. Weber Shandwick are paid to do this. They’ve been paid a lot but they’ve performed. They’vecaused you more problems than anybody.
Just out if interest James why are you so passionate about defending ACL and the councils position yet never seem to offer an opinion on nostalgic posts about the club at all?
This seems to be his new tactic, keep saying everything isn't clear and there's confusion. Mentions it multiple times according to those minutes. Yet most other people seem to have no problem understanding all these points which leaves 2 options a) he's lying or b) he's not up to the job.
It took 2 minutes for someone to start defending ACL.
Just out if interest James why are you so passionate about defending ACL and the councils position yet never seem to offer an opinion on nostalgic posts about the club at all?
with a pinch of salt. Your business activities may well be legal Labovitch, but I'm not sure they're something I'd use to lend credibility to Sisu as anything other than another money hungry, "networking", jobs for the boys type institution. (IMO)Labovitch said:I wouldn’t make myself unemployable by being a director of a company owned by an outfit that was dodgy.
James you summed it up perfectly.
It really amazes me how many times i hear someone from ccc, Acl, higgs slagging off Sisu/Otium to the point of confusion !!!!
Hell would freeze over before that happened wouldn't it?
See if you can come up with three ?
So you can't have any points to disagree on what he has posted then.
Fair enough. But what if they bought Higgs share and then the council refused to negotiate? They would have spent £5m and not really gained anything (I believe ACL has a 5-man board and the Higgs share would give them 2 board places - which would mean they could technically be outvoted on any decisions).
Who are the Long Distance Supporters that Jonathen Strange is representing?
Well one of James comments is that a comment is being made about ACL's accounts that suggests they may be experience financial difficulty. The motivation it is suggested is to create uncertainty and there is no evidence that such financial issues exist.
Is this a game?
Actions speak louder than words I think.
Administration, clumsily attempting to change owners, rejecting a CVA, charging 10 times the average rent, forcing the club to fund ACL in its infancy, offering subsequent reduced rental deals which when finer print is scrutinised appear not so attractive, employing expensive PR companies to carefully word all their statements....no you are right they are great.
Rejecting
My comments were about future as yet unpublished ACL accounts that Mr Labovitch is speculating on. How does he know what is going on in the ACL accounts any more than PWKH knows what is going on in the Otium accounts?
so apart from SP what have Sisu ever done for us?
Relieved the club from the super expensive 42year lease?
Relieved the club from the super expensive 42year lease?
Which they could have renegotiated or bought the ground but forgot "we batter people in court" :thinking about:
The JR could reveal a few nasty surprises for you.
The JR could reveal a few nasty surprises for you.
Absolving all the other parties responsible for this mess of any blame may make you feel better, but it achieves absolutely nothing.
Here's the thing my friend I don't care what the result of the Jr is my hatred and thats what it is I have for Sisu and in particular Tim Fisher is personal.
it also could not. the judge may make comments like this again
"Ms Seppala was the least satisfactory of all the witnesses. In making my general comments above, I said that no-one was deliberately lying. But I fear Ms Seppala has a distorted recollection of some events – particularly about what happened at the meetings in New York in January 2005 – and, with the benefit of hindsight, has introduced a "spin" (I am sorry not to be able to find a better word) which suits the Applicants' case. She is also prone to exaggerate – the Respondents would characterise it as lying, but I give her the benefit of the doubt on that – for instance her suggestion (eventually withdrawn by her) that Mr Wallace had "continually" represented to the Applicants that the RCF Banks had a strong direct claim against TXU Corp when in fact he never said that at all. She also recollects (and she may well have believed what she was saying) events which did not, as I conclude, take place (namely a conversation with Mr Wallace "in a small room" and Mr Olin reading and explaining a position paper in New York on 11 January 2005). She is, I am quite sure, an astute and effective business woman. I totally reject her description of herself as naïve. I am quite sure that she was closely involved in developments as the representative of SISU as a Committee Creditor. But she had many other business matters on her mind and when it came to producing her witness statement and giving her oral evidence, her recollection was not, I think, as accurate as she would like to make out."
none off us know, but hopefully it will be an end to the bluffing and finally everyone will put there cards on the table.
I take it that was for me? If it was what exactly are we achieving at the moment? I really want to know.
Here's the thing my friend I don't care what the result of the Jr is my hatred and thats what it is I have for Sisu and in particular Tim Fisher is personal.
I agree that Sisu will have seen the ACL books back in 2012 but that's a long time ago, and supposedly ACL have got it together since then. Again though we don't know all the facts, and possibly that includes Mr Labovitch.TBF sisu have already scrutinized ACL's books (did due dilligence back in 2012) and I don't think it's too difficult for their financial experts to guesstimate where ACL are financially today.
To be fair ACL as far as I know haven't speculated in publicon how much money the Club/Sisu have.ACL have never had access to the SBS&L group's books ... only the accounts which isn't the same.
So sisu are actually in a better position to speculate.
(It's up to you if you believe ML when he speculate that ACL may be short of cash or not).
Nothing. As I said. Until we scream blue murder at all the greedy self-interested tossers who got us into this mess we will achieve nothing. But no, we direct our ire at Sixfields scum and ACoLytes.
No need to explain.
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