So it ties nothing up in the meantime? They can just laugh, go about their everyday business, and they don't have to assess a risk, divert to analysing a risk, potentially have to set aside for a risk, and then go to sponsors with all this bad publicity and say that in this case, the smoke is without fire so give us what you would anyway?If, as we have repeatedly been assured, the council did not wrong then there will be no consequence to Wasps, will not involve Wasps, and is a total irrelevance to Wasps.
Its simple, Wasps put a condition in place. The club and SISU met that condition. The condition was changed.
So it ties nothing up in the meantime? They can just laugh, go about their everyday business, and they don't have to assess a risk, divert to analysing a risk, potentially have to set aside for a risk, and then go to sponsors with all this bad publicity and say that in this case, the smoke is without fire so give us what you would anyway?
Of course there's a consequence, regardless of right or wrong!
That also, incidentally, applies to Otium...
Again, the aha, so look over here at something completely different doesn't make my point invalid.Do you think they were worried about the football club's sponsors when their bloke was trying to encourage protests do you think?
Again, the aha, so look over here at something completely different doesn't make my point invalid.
What does it tie up? Its for the EC to decide if they will investigate CCC. It has nothing to do with Wasps. If they decide an investigation should proceed it will be against CCC not Wasps and any defence and associated costs will be the councils.So it ties nothing up in the meantime? They can just laugh, go about their everyday business, and they don't have to assess a risk, divert to analysing a risk, potentially have to set aside for a risk, and then go to sponsors with all this bad publicity and say that in this case, the smoke is without fire so give us what you would anyway?
Of course there's a consequence, regardless of right or wrong!
That also, incidentally, applies to Otium...
The council have nailed their flag on the wasps project - can’t afford it to fail.Why do so many people give a shit about Wasps? If they didn't put the appropriate indemnity in place with CCC on buying the stadium lease, then quite frankly they deserve all the shit coming to them if there is a case to be answered for with EC.
Again, the aha, so look over here at something completely different doesn't make my point invalid.
I don't give a shit about Wasps. if they die, it'll be a glorious moment.Why do so many people give a shit about Wasps?
If they didn't put the appropriate indemnity in place with CCC on buying the stadium lease, then quite frankly they deserve all the shit coming to them if there is a case to be answered for with EC.
I don't give a shit about Wasps. if they die, it'll be a glorious moment.
It's a sheer act of stupidity to not understand their position however.
When it came to Northampton, there was a simplistic narrative that it was all SISU's fault. This was patently untrue. It's a bit of a simplistic narrative, however, to suggest that SISU's actions have had nothing whatsoever to us ending up where we are. The 'need' for an indeminity didn't just appear, after all.
This I agree with entirely FWIW. It'd show a massive glaring error on their part if that were the case, and would be rash and irresponsible Knowing their was legal action ongoing when you bought the stadium, you'd hardly be surprised when it goes on, and on... and on. I'm not sure I'd have any faith whatsoever in the competence of a business that didn't consider that risk when buying the stadium, it'd be immensely stupid!
Nope.That is exactly the tactic you are employing.
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As ever, from where we sit as fans it's very hard to see the truth. It's a bit like trying to follow a high ball from the back of the old West End!
There's enough in her interview to suggest a perfectly valid reading that she wanted it open for Otium to continue to pursue action.
I've no doubt there'd end up legal action over what constituted legal action too, tbh.
Hope they put the full video up rather than 30-40 second clips here and there.
What is there to argue about?!? It's about as uncontroversial as you can get!!
Especially if we're on a board where we're balanced, and blame all sides(!)
My loyalty to the Club overrides any other stance or view I have on the owners, CCC, Wasps or anyone else connected with this sorry saga. IMHO I'd hope this would be same for ALL CCFC supporters.The council have nailed their flag on the wasps project - can’t afford it to fail.
The above stance is geared towards the fans who hate sisu more than they love the club
It has no consequence for Wasps/ Really?It has nothing to do with Wasps
You’d be surprised... some members of the clubs own trust want us to go bustMy loyalty to the Club overrides any other stance or view I have on the owners, CCC, Wasps or anyone else connected with this sorry saga. IMHO I'd hope this would be same for ALL CCFC supporters.
( Allegedly)Isn't their position that they want the club, SISU and also individuals to provide indemnity in case there are any damages that arise from the EU stuff?
It has no consequence for Wasps/ Really?
Really?
I don't give a shit about Wasps. if they die, it'll be a glorious moment.
It's a sheer act of stupidity to not understand their position however.
When it came to Northampton, there was a simplistic narrative that it was all SISU's fault. This was patently untrue. It's a bit of a simplistic narrative, however, to suggest that SISU's actions have had nothing whatsoever to us ending up where we are. The 'need' for an indeminity didn't just appear, after all.
This I agree with entirely FWIW. It'd show a massive glaring error on their part if that were the case, and would be rash and irresponsible Knowing their was legal action ongoing when you bought the stadium, you'd hardly be surprised when it goes on, and on... and on. I'm not sure I'd have any faith whatsoever in the competence of a business that didn't consider that risk when buying the stadium, it'd be immensely stupid!
Maybe you can tell me how, if CCC have done no wrong as we have repeatedly been told, any complaint to the EC about the council is going to have consequences for Wasps?It has no consequence for Wasps/ Really?
Really?
He was asked a question and replied. Where is the fetish for drama and attention?
What does it tie up? Its for the EC to decide if they will investigate CCC. It has nothing to do with Wasps. If they decide an investigation should proceed it will be against CCC not Wasps and any defence and associated costs will be the councils.
Why would Wasps need to set aside for a risk, what is the risk? Can't be the council losing as we've been repeatedly told its not possible for that to happen as everything is above board. If you're saying Wasps fear the council will be found to be in the wrong then trying to blackmail the clubs owners and get any future costs covered by the the clubs owners or the club itself is disgraceful behaviour.
Joking aside from my earlier post...
I honestly wish Joy Sepella spoke earlier and a lot more regular to the fans during SISU's tenure. Already I feel a better connection, even with a three minute video
We may not always like what we hear but we would much rather that than faceless owners.
It sounds like a portion of our fans have been complete and utter arseholes attacking her home, that is simply disgusting.
I feel for SISU a little as they have been shafted by both CCC and Wasps, however they cannot be excused for being poor owners overall.
Perhaps this is a chance for them to redeem themselves. Back Robins, get back to the Championship and possibly sell up and you can say that will suit all parties. The sticking point is obviously the stadium and unfortunately with either Wasps or SISU as they are now I can't see us back at the Ricoh unless Wasps are really fucking desperate.
This could get very interesting, there's more that meets the eye to this interview.
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What does it tie up? Its for the EC to decide if they will investigate CCC. It has nothing to do with Wasps. If they decide an investigation should proceed it will be against CCC not Wasps and any defence and associated costs will be the councils.
Why would Wasps need to set aside for a risk, what is the risk?
Isn’t the point that if council found of giving state aid the party benefitting has to pay I.e wasps
Exactly, so It can only be an issue for Wasps if the council are found to be in the wrong, something we have been repeatedly told isn't the case. That would mean the taxpayer has been deprived of tens of millions.Isn’t the point that if council found of giving state aid the party benefitting has to pay I.e wasps
Exactly, so It can only be an issue for Wasps if the council are found to be in the wrong, something we have been repeatedly told isn't the case. That would mean the taxpayer has been deprived of tens of millions.
Should that be the case why would anyone take issue with Wasps being ordered to pay the shortfall or believe that it should be down to the football club to cover any such payment?
I wonder if people would be as supportive of SISU as they are of Wasps if they demanded indemnity from Wasps and / or the council
Exactly, so It can only be an issue for Wasps if the council are found to be in the wrong, something we have been repeatedly told isn't the case. That would mean the taxpayer has been deprived of tens of millions.
Should that be the case why would anyone take issue with Wasps being ordered to pay the shortfall or believe that it should be down to the football club to cover any such payment?
I wonder if people would be as supportive of SISU as they are of Wasps if they demanded indemnity from Wasps and / or the council
It therefore appears that CCC and Wasps are to blame for today's situation not SISU
Again, CCC and Wasps being cunts doesn't mean SISU aren't. Of course they are to blame for the situation as well.
Only needed two weekly at the Ricoh?I think I can confidently predict the outcome of the EC's findings - Monthly bin collections.
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