Sheffield United (Away) Match Thread (3 Viewers)

Londonccfcfan · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
Mowbray played fortune in wide right not as a striker.

Lol.if that's case....why???? I'm not sure he did! We are one nil down. You take a central midfielder off...bring on Fortune..who I'm sorry should never be on the wing! He plays back to goal. doesnt ever look like scoring has no pace...slows down the play.

Fortune is a target man. there's a time and place for bringing him on.

im sure no one was filled with confidence when he came on.
Fortune Strength is strong enough who should be playing up front and holding it up..mixing it up...long balls...bringing others quicker players..into the game.

What's happened to Tudgay...? Not getting a look in recently ahead of Fortune.

covcity4life · Dec 13, 2015

Londonccfcfan said:
Lol.if that's case....why???? I'm not sure he did! We are one nil down. You take a central midfielder off...bring on Fortune..who I'm sorry should never be on the wing! He plays back to goal. doesnt ever look like scoring has no pace...slows down the play.

Fortune is a target man. there's a time and place for bringing him on.

im sure no one was filled with confidence when he came on.
Fortune Strength is strong enough who should be playing up front and holding it up..mixing it up...long balls...bringing others quicker players..into the game.

What's happened to Tudgay...? Not getting a look in recently ahead of Fortune.

Are you suggesting fortune dismissed Mowbray's instructions and decided to play out wide himself????

stupot07 · Dec 13, 2015

He definitely came on the wing and didn't show any of that strength you speak of. Even the commentators picked up on that,

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sw88 · Dec 13, 2015

covcity4life said:
Are you suggesting fortune dismissed Mowbray's instructions and decided to play out wide himself????

Surprised he even came on at all. Didn't bother warming up at HT with the others and preferred to sit on the bench in a hat, scarf and coat. Probably safe to say he had gloves on too although that's just a guess (given the rest of his attire).

Didn't look interested when he came on.

fernandopartridge · Dec 13, 2015

Gazolba said:
According to BBC they had 7 shots 4 on target, we had 11 shots 3 on target.

On target I should have said. Genuinely can't remember them threatening our goal.

speedie87 · Dec 13, 2015

We need to sack off this joe Cole experiment

SlowerThanPlatt · Dec 13, 2015

Why do we seem intent on going short at every corner and every close range free kick?

Greenbow64 · Dec 13, 2015

Don't forget we're a struggling team with 20k average crowds , you are a team in form who struggle to get 10000. We are playing totally lacking in confidence but we beat you. As for your support. PATHETIC. At the end of the season and we are promoted and next season you are still playing in a 1/3rd full hockey stadium we'll see who are the better team.
ps never thought i'd go to a stadium that makes MK Dons seem like a football ground but the Ricoh really does it. Used to really enjoy Highfield Rd and went to the first ever top flight game there.

pw362 · Dec 13, 2015

Was at the game and fortune was ready to come on before they scored. So I don't think it was Mowbray reacting to us going one nil down

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 13, 2015

Greenbow64 said:
Don't forget we're a struggling team with 20k average crowds , you are a team in form who struggle to get 10000. We are playing totally lacking in confidence but we beat you. As for your support. PATHETIC. At the end of the season and we are promoted and next season you are still playing in a 1/3rd full hockey stadium we'll see who are the better team.
ps never thought i'd go to a stadium that makes MK Dons seem like a football ground but the Ricoh really does it. Used to really enjoy Highfield Rd and went to the first ever top flight game there.

lol good luck with promotion ointlaugh:

SlowerThanPlatt · Dec 13, 2015

Greenbow64 said:
Don't forget we're a struggling team with 20k average crowds , you are a team in form who struggle to get 10000. We are playing totally lacking in confidence but we beat you. As for your support. PATHETIC. At the end of the season and we are promoted and next season you are still playing in a 1/3rd full hockey stadium we'll see who are the better team.
ps never thought i'd go to a stadium that makes MK Dons seem like a football ground but the Ricoh really does it. Used to really enjoy Highfield Rd and went to the first ever top flight game there.

Not quite 20,000 there today. And how on earth are you going to get promoted? If it wasn't for a very poor ref we would have won today.

Londonccfcfan · Dec 13, 2015

covcity4life said:
Are you suggesting fortune dismissed Mowbray's instructions and decided to play out wide himself????

Nah just think he's crap. Should not be in squad next week.

maddison back. Maybe to resume his telepathic partnership with Rubén. Behind arma.

embarressment of riches.

Lets be brave next week.

how about this.

3 at the back.
Obrian and Murphy wing backs!!!

attack , attack attack! At home!

Martin, Turner, Stokes
vincelot , fleck
obrian, Rubén, murphy
maddison, Armstrong.

wont happen but can dream.

Deleted member 2477 · Dec 13, 2015

Just got back frm the game and like others have said the worst ref i have ever had to see in my life.
for the grace of god lameiras still has two unbroken legs and i dont think any would disagree it was a clear red.

we wernt at our best today with Murphy having a very poor first half and lets not mention the mistake for their goal which in all honesty is the only shot on target I remember them having.

For m Sheffield are the worst team i have seen this season. They lacked confidence, attacking options and at times their players seemed to not want the ball. As for their constant dirty play pulling players back as soon as we were in good positions was just disgusting.

from what i saw today utd will be lucky to remain the top half of the table at the end of the season and definately not top 6 they really are awful.

in my opinion tm got his team wrong today by taking off job and not playing kent.
as soon as job went off we lost the midfield and if he had played kent from the start i think utd would have found it impossible to cope with his pace resulting in more bookings and sending offs

Londonccfcfan · Dec 13, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Not quite 20,000 there today. And how on earth are you going to get promoted? If it wasn't for a very poor ref we would have won today.

Worst team in league one. I'm glad your overpaid players on championship wages are. Short changing you. Most our players have more skill in their tiny toe than your pathetic sorry whole squad has.

Your shit and in front of Sky cameras proved to the whole world how shit and lucky you are.

Sun really does shine on dogs Arse some days!

table doesnt lie.

Deleted member 4439 · Dec 13, 2015

Nick said:
Their goalie smiling and raising his eye brows, pretty much confirm it

letsallsingtogether · Dec 13, 2015

Greenbow64 said:
Don't forget we're a struggling team with 20k average crowds , you are a team in form who struggle to get 10000. We are playing totally lacking in confidence but we beat you. As for your support. PATHETIC. At the end of the season and we are promoted and next season you are still playing in a 1/3rd full hockey stadium we'll see who are the better team.
ps never thought i'd go to a stadium that makes MK Dons seem like a football ground but the Ricoh really does it. Used to really enjoy Highfield Rd and went to the first ever top flight game there.

You been on the Cherry?.
Merry Xmas BTW.

mechaishida · Dec 13, 2015

Greenbow64 said:
Don't forget we're a struggling team with 20k average crowds , you are a team in form who struggle to get 10000. We are playing totally lacking in confidence but we beat you. As for your support. PATHETIC. At the end of the season and we are promoted and next season you are still playing in a 1/3rd full hockey stadium we'll see who are the better team.
ps never thought i'd go to a stadium that makes MK Dons seem like a football ground but the Ricoh really does it. Used to really enjoy Highfield Rd and went to the first ever top flight game there.

Your team physically assaulted most of our forward line, then rode their incredible luck from the blatant red card incident, to the goal that never was for us, to the goal your lad scored off his shoulder.

To post so ignorantly and brazenly after such a 'victory' just shows your lack of class. Your team cannot bully and whinge their way to promotion, so start praying, lad.

georgehudson · Dec 13, 2015

watched the game on tv,
observations;

a total, & worrying, for footballs sake, home biased official, Iain Williamson 0/10, should never ref anything above sunday league,
the blatantly evil tackle on Lameiras was nothing short of criminal,
this needs to be reviewed with the option of a retrospective decision to ban McElverley,

he was aided and abetted by Joe Clarke, an assistant who with the benefit of being on the right side of the pitch, was unable to admit that the ball had crossed the line, an incompetent oaf, in any other job he would be summarily dismissed,

these events together with the overall blatant bias towards a side that were determined to kick CCFC off the pitch, only serve to enhance the hatred created towards individuals like Williamson & Clarke,

i would hope that the yellows to Ricketts would be contested & that Williamson would have the balls to admit to his BLATANT errors,

all he needs to do is look at the after match interviews, and LISTEN to the S.U. players response to questions,

i would further hope that CCFC never EVER have to put up with Williamson's dubious antics again,
PUSB & can we have fair & competent officials in future

Grendel · Dec 13, 2015

georgehudson said:
watched the game on tv,
observations;

a total, & worrying, for footballs sake, home biased official, Iain Williamson 0/10, should never ref anything above sunday league,
the blatantly evil tackle on Lameiras was nothing short of criminal,
this needs to be reviewed with the option of a retrospective decision to ban McElverley,

he was aided and abetted by Joe Clarke, an assistant who with the benefit of being on the right side of the pitch, was unable to admit that the ball had crossed the line, an incompetent oaf, in any other job he would be summarily dismissed,

these events together with the overall blatant bias towards a side that were determined to kick CCFC off the pitch, only serve to enhance the hatred created towards individuals like Williamson & Clarke,

i would hope that the yellows to Ricketts would be contested & that Williamson would have the balls to admit to his BLATANT errors,

all he needs to do is look at the after match interviews, and LISTEN to the S.U. players response to questions,

i would further hope that CCFC never EVER have to put up with Williamson's dubious antics again,
PUSB & can we have fair & competent officials in future

The tackle had no malice in it it was just very poor. The referee made 3 decisions wrong - he wasn't unfair and wasn't the reason we lost the game.

shmmeee · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
The tackle had no malice in it it was just very poor. The referee made 3 decisions wrong - he wasn't unfair and wasn't the reason we lost the game.

So if our goal had counted, you think we'd have conceded 2?

st john · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
The tackle had no malice in it it was just very poor. The referee made 3 decisions wrong - he wasn't unfair and wasn't the reason we lost the game.

Surely malice or otherwise doesn't come into it, the only decision the ref has to make is whether the tackle could be construed as serious foul play
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...ball-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx

Deleted member 4439 · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
The tackle had no malice in it it was just very poor. The referee made 3 decisions wrong - he wasn't unfair and wasn't the reason we lost the game.

You mean it wasn't the only reason we lost the game. If you really think otherwise, then you are simply wrong.

Deleted member 4439 · Dec 13, 2015

st john said:
Surely malice or otherwise doesn't come into it, the only decision the ref has to make is whether the tackle could be construed as serious foul play
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...ball-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx

yup

higgs · Dec 13, 2015

We look a good side pity about the result need to take it on the chin now and win the next 3 on the bounce

Grendel · Dec 13, 2015

dubed said:
You mean it wasn't the only reason we lost the game. If you really think otherwise, then you are simply wrong.

We lost the game, as Mowbray said, due to a poor bit of defending.

Grendel · Dec 13, 2015

st john said:
Surely malice or otherwise doesn't come into it, the only decision the ref has to make is whether the tackle could be construed as serious foul play
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...ball-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx

I never said it wasn't a red card offence - it wasn't an evil tackle as someone said.

Grendel · Dec 13, 2015

shmmeee said:
So if our goal had counted, you think we'd have conceded 2?

Technically it wasn't a goal. It was a penalty which we tend to miss.

st john · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
I never said it wasn't a red card offence - it wasn't an evil tackle as someone said.

So why even mention malice when it has no bearing on whether it was a sending off offence or not. From what I saw it looked like not just a very poor tackle but part of a plan to intimidate our forward line and should have been punished accordingly. Then it probably would have had an impact on the result. And to say we shouldn't expect to score from a penalty because we tend to miss them is silly.

martcov · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
Technically it wasn't a goal. It was a penalty which we tend to miss.

If the ball is in the net a splt second after the 'penalty' ( which you dont have Time to blow for ) do you take the ball out and have to kick it in again? Or is it "advantage" and Play on?

Joelly · Dec 13, 2015

Sheffield United had a plan, knowing they couldnt beat us man for man and resorted to playing frustrating niggly football.

I personally didnt think the ref had a bad game whilst I was there. Have since seen the sky highlights and it is 100% a red for their left back.

I think with the 'goal' there was no clear vision for ref or lino could happen the other way next week and we wouldnt care - thats football but so frustrating.

After they scored our heads went and we panicked, Ricketts getting stupidly booked that late on will now miss games. After watching highlights I know its debatable whether it was a second yellow or not but why even give that choice to the ref? Stupid decision to fly in that just highlights my point of losing our heads (first time I have seen this happen this season).

Sheffield United are a horrible team that play shit football and their fans wind me up always have.

However I fully believe that the team with Mowbray can move on and come back next week against Oldham and I think we will win comfortably and by next Saturday evening this game will be just a distant memory.

PUSB

Grendel · Dec 13, 2015

martcov said:
If the ball is in the net a splt second after the 'penalty' ( which you dont have Time to blow for ) do you take the ball out and have to kick it in again? Or is it "advantage" and Play on?

If the assistant was doing their job correctly they would immediately flag for the first offence and the referee would award the penalty.

At full speed it's easy to excuse the fact the goal wasn't given anyway. The keeper covered the view and even at slow speed and several camera angles only one really showed it over the line. One official should have spotted the penalty.

georgehudson · Dec 13, 2015

grendull, if you think the referee made only 3 decisions wrong then you are a bigger schmuk than i thought, i presume you'll find new pastures,

Grendel · Dec 13, 2015

georgehudson said:
grendull, if you think the referee made only 3 decisions wrong then you are a bigger schmuk than i thought, i presume you'll find new pastures,

You always slag of referees after every defeat.

Your knowledge of football is limited do I will excuse your ignorance on this occasion.

shmmeee · Dec 13, 2015

Grendel said:
Technically it wasn't a goal. It was a penalty which we tend to miss.

Was it not? I didn't know it had been settled.

Yeah, you've got a point about pens.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 13, 2015

shmmeee said:
Was it not? I didn't know it had been settled.

Yeah, you've got a point about pens.

He means because it should have been a penalty before, so the correct decision should have been a penalty and not a goal.

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