mark82
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If you can send me over some examples I'll do that. I never go on off topic so don't see it.
If you can send me over some examples I'll do that. I never go on off topic so don't see it.If you want to clear up racism one place to start would be the off topic board and some proper bans in this place.
Society is rampant with it and it rears because it’s tolerated whether overt or ‘nudge nudge wink wink’ online.
If everyone saying how awful this is called-out the next act of racism they come across, at the football or not, that would be worth more and achieve more than any kind of one-off, group gesture on Fri night. Call it out or accept it. That's your choice.
I just cant get my head around this whole incident - all this is so vile and belongs in a world that is best forgotten
I will be wearing my 2 Tone kit !
Everyone singing ...I’d hope the decent Wednesday fans would want a chance to show their support as well TBF.
Everyone singing ...
If you all hate racists, clap your hands.
To the tune of coming round the mountain.
All decent fans can get involved, no matter who they support
Simply, it is everyone's civic duty to punch anyone they hear being racist.And this is the crux of it 100%. The modern world is full of tokenism. Clap for a minute, take the knee, change your FB profile picture. It is what’s called slacktivism. Not just on issues of race. This is the best take I have seen on this site in years. If you care about something then act. Stand up for what is right in every aspect of life and maybe just maybe the world will be a better place
We should absolutely support Palmer, but tbh I'd take him out of the firing line and give him a break from Friday's game. He'll unfairly feel under enormous pressure.
It's basically the difference between not being racist and being anti-racist one is passive not doing anything racist the other is challenging racism in all forms to educate and iradicate.And this is the crux of it 100%. The modern world is full of tokenism. Clap for a minute, take the knee, change your FB profile picture. It is what’s called slacktivism. Not just on issues of race. This is the best take I have seen on this site in years. If you care about something then act. Stand up for what is right in every aspect of life and maybe just maybe the world will be a better place
Hopefully with all the whining about virtue signalling and racism not existing anymore fucked off.Would be good to do it for the rest of the season.
As a 70 year old I’m sorry but I take exception to your comment Rob. I’m no racist and I am fully aware what constitutes racism.We should absolutely support Palmer, but tbh I'd take him out of the firing line and give him a break from Friday's game. He'll unfairly feel under enormous pressure.
It's also not just about him. He was the target, it was disgusting. But how do our other black and Asian players feel? What about our fans and friends too? What about the black Wednesday players and fans too? And that's before we even begin to take the moral highground and pretend we don't have racist fans of our own.
I've always said education is the way, I'm no longer even sure it is. I also always thought it was the older generation and in time would be gone, but the perpetrator yesterday didn't look particularly old again. We just have to keep calling it out. I know it only drives it underground but I actually think I'd rather have that now than see players and fans being made to feel like they will have again this weekend and accept that cunts will always be cunts.
Wouldn’t it be good to show our support for Palmer on Friday in the best way we can.
Firstly 45 mins solid of the Kasey Palmer song for our number 45, even if he isn’t playing.
Secondly, it would be a fitting show to get us playing in the 2tone kit.
Let’s show them vile individuals how to really show support.
It's not about YOU so no need to make it so. At no point does my post say all old people are racist. This place will always look for something different to what clearly isn't the important part of any post.As a 70 year old I’m sorry but I take exception to your comment Rob. I’m no racist and I am fully aware what constitutes racism.
Yes some are confused about what words are acceptable eg black,coloured, but that’s still not racism.
I agree people of my generation find it somewhat difficult when we hear boys say I identify as a girl,and young girls say they identify as boys.
And sometimes we even chuckle amongst ourselves when they identify as neither. But that’s because by then we are totally lost.
But if we were going to have a bet for a pint, I would bet more more young men shout racist abuse than any other group.
As a 70 year old I’m sorry but I take exception to your comment Rob. I’m no racist and I am fully aware what constitutes racism.
Yes some are confused about what words are acceptable eg black,coloured, but that’s still not racism.
I agree people of my generation find it somewhat difficult when we hear boys say I identify as a girl,and young girls say they identify as boys.
And sometimes we even chuckle amongst ourselves when they identify as neither. But that’s because by then we are totally lost.
But if we were going to have a bet for a pint, I would bet more more young men shout racist abuse than any other group.
It's not about YOU so no need to make it so. At no point does my post say all old people are racist. This place will always look for something different to what clearly isn't the important part of any post.
Its clearly a problem across all of our society and in our own fanbase so I don't see what chanting at Wednesday fans achieves.
A cov 'fan' on the overground after wembley loudly used the n word about Dabo and was rightly put in his place however I still see the guy posting on twitter, attending cov and England games etc.
Well he was called out in person at the time and shit himself. Fair few witnesses to it and comments on social media afterwards I recall.not called out or reported though?
Well he was called out in person at the time and shit himself. Fair few witnesses to it and comments on social media afterwards I recall.
But it just shows he can carry on supporting city and England as if nothing happened.
There's no obvious repercussions unless you happen to be caught on camera and the authorities get involved.
@rob9872 I can see what you are saying, but no need to get aggressive with your post - @Warwickshire lad was merely making a point he feels strongly about - he isn’t racist (I assume) and wasn’t standing on the terrace berating KP on Saturday, so maybe calm down a tad eh?
Wouldn’t it be good to show our support for Palmer on Friday in the best way we can. Firstly 45 mins solid of the Kasey Palmer song for our number 45, even if he isn’t playing. Secondly, it would be a fitting show to get us playing in the 2tone kit. Let’s show them vile individuals how to really show support.
Onthis occasion cant we get the EFL tgo agree we can wear the two tone kit?I will be wearing my 2 Tone kit !
Aggressive?? Ffs really? He completely took one small irrelevant point of my post and chose to comment on that rather than the more important aspect and even then was inaccurate. This place is bonkers.
no and the logistics don't work eitherOnthis occasion cant we get the EFL tgo agree we can wear the two tone kit?
It’s an FA competition so it’s nothing to do with the EFLOnthis occasion cant we get the EFL tgo agree we can wear the two tone kit?
Onthis occasion cant we get the EFL tgo agree we can wear the two tone kit?
Something I've wondered, quite sapping on the energy scale of any human being I'd think, even rest of squad!We should absolutely support Palmer, but tbh I'd take him out of the firing line and give him a break from Friday's game. He'll unfairly feel under enormous pressure.
It's also not just about him. He was the target, it was disgusting. But how do our other black and Asian players feel? What about our fans and friends too? What about the black Wednesday players and fans too? And that's before we even begin to take the moral highground and pretend we don't have racist fans of our own.
I've always said education is the way, I'm no longer even sure it is. I also always thought it0 was the older generation and in time would be gone, but the perpetrator yesterday didn't look particularly old again. We just have to keep calling it out. I know it only drives it underground but I actually think I'd rather have that now than see players and fans being made to feel like they will have again this weekend and accept that cunts will always be cunts.
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