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skybluecam · Dec 30, 2022

A few questions

1. Why are there empty seats there recently? Always used to be the first place to fill up.

2. As a ST holder for another seat in the stand is there anything stopping me from going to that block and finding a space? Usually go with family but they're not around Sunday so fancy going somewhere a bit more lively.

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 31, 2022

Two is less than a few - thought I'd end the year on a pedantic note.

shmmeee · Dec 31, 2022

Because they are policing it like the Gaza/Israel border and you have to have a ST in there to get in. Which should answer both your Qs

pusbccfc · Dec 31, 2022

Explained a lot on the Atmosphere thread.

They admitted removing every seat at the end of the row from sale. Hundreds of seats empty because of that.

You now cannot buy tickets in there so you either sneak up or you move elsewhere. Many familiar faces have given up getting up there and have moved elsewhere. Ruining the atmosphere.

CV22SBA · Dec 31, 2022

Cocaine Corner.

I’m sorry but it was a disaster waiting to happen and something needed to be done. You literally couldn’t see the gangways between blocks 14 & 17. Imagine someone was overdosing and needed medical attention.

Nick · Dec 31, 2022

pusbccfc said:
Explained a lot on the Atmosphere thread.

They admitted removing every seat at the end of the row from sale. Hundreds of seats empty because of that.

You now cannot buy tickets in there so you either sneak up or you move elsewhere. Many familiar faces have given up getting up there and have moved elsewhere. Ruining the atmosphere.

Probably to stop people acting like bellends.

Used to be over crowded. What did people expect?

Remember the game where the tannoy was telling people to go back to their actual seats because it was over crowded and the pricks just cheered and carried on?

shmmeee · Dec 31, 2022

CV22SBA said:
Cocaine Corner.

I’m sorry but it was a disaster waiting to happen and something needed to be done. You literally couldn’t see the gangways between blocks 14 & 17. Imagine someone was overdosing and needed medical attention.

Just keep an overflow block ready.

chiefdave · Dec 31, 2022

Nick said:
What did people expect?

Imagine if Boddy rocked up to a meeting with the safety group and took some of the suggestions on here. Storm in, tell them to fuck off and that we are going to have designated blocks for people who wanted to take class As at games

shmmeee · Dec 31, 2022

chiefdave said:
Imagine if Boddy rocked up to a meeting with the safety group and took some of the suggestions on here. Storm in, tell them to fuck off and that we are going to have designated blocks for people who wanted to take class As at games

Do you not think we’re over policed compared to other clubs?

chiefdave · Dec 31, 2022

shmmeee said:
Do you not think we’re over policed compared to other clubs?

I don't think we have a lot of choice in that. I doubt that the club are voluntarily paying out for a larger police presence than they have to. Some of the things that are done like that stupid fence defy all logic but what can we do

We have very little push back on this because people, particularly in that corner, are incapable of behaving themselves. We've had issues with overcrowding, people standing in walkways, people refusing to sit in the right seat, persistent standing, people trying to get across no mans land to the away supporters, smoke bombs being thrown, pitch invasions, underage drinkers and open drug taking

What is Boddy supposed to say at any meeting with the authorities that will negate all that? the easiest way to get the restrictions removed is to have no trouble

shmmeee · Dec 31, 2022

chiefdave said:
I don't think we have a lot of choice in that. I doubt that the club are voluntarily paying out for a larger police presence than they have to. Some of the things that are done like that stupid fence defy all logic but what can we do

We have very little push back on this because people, particularly in that corner, are incapable of behaving themselves. We've had issues with overcrowding, people standing in walkways, people refusing to sit in the right seat, persistent standing, people trying to get across no mans land to the away supporters, smoke bombs being thrown, pitch invasions, underage drinkers and open drug taking

What is Boddy supposed to say at any meeting with the authorities that will negate all that? the easiest way to get the restrictions removed is to have no trouble

Genuine question but are there complaints procedures or anything? The club is clearly losing revenue from the over the top policing.

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 · Dec 31, 2022

The club need to sort this for next season. Swap away fans with singers’ corner or put away fans in the corner where pay on the gate is and put our vocal fans behind the goal at the north stand

Hobo · Dec 31, 2022

Those blocks have always over rated themselves as fans. Probably driven a few proper fans out?

chiefdave · Dec 31, 2022

shmmeee said:
Genuine question but are there complaints procedures or anything? The club is clearly losing revenue from the over the top policing.

Not sure there would be a complaints procedure as such but it would all be down to the SAG so the club would get their chase to have a say at that. Although my experience of event licensing is that councils are very much you do what we say or you don’t get a license

The role of Coventry City Council’s event Safety Advisory Group (SAG) is to provide specialist advice to event organisers. It is the group’s main objective that all events held in Coventry uphold the highest standards of public safety and wellbeing of the public, operatives, participants etc.

The SAG is hosted by a Chair and an Executive Support Officer. The following teams have people who are core members of the SAG:

Coventry City Council

Events

Licensing

Environmental Health (health and safety & food safety)

Environmental Protection (noise)

Highways

Parks

Emergency Planning

Public Health

West Midlands Fire Service

West Midlands Ambulance Service

West Midlands Police

skybluecam · Dec 31, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Two is less than a few - thought I'd end the year on a pedantic note.

Fairly sure "a few" means a small number greater than 1 to be even more pedantic.

pusbccfc · Dec 31, 2022

Nick said:
Probably to stop people acting like bellends.

Used to be over crowded. What did people expect?

Remember the game where the tannoy was telling people to go back to their actual seats because it was over crowded and the pricks just cheered and carried on?

If it's overcrowded and the demand is there, they shouldn't have closed Block 13.

We aren't the only club with poor behaving fans. The way we deal with it seems to be inconsistent and makes matters worse.

pusbccfc · Dec 31, 2022

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
The club need to sort this for next season. Swap away fans with singers’ corner or put away fans in the corner where pay on the gate is and put our vocal fans behind the goal at the north stand

The way I'd solve it would be to open Block 13 up to meet demand.

I'd then make the Telegraph stand cheaper. Even at £1-2 less than the rest of the ground, it would be more appealing to younger fans and would fill it out a little more evenly.

I'd then also block off the front 2 rows of every stand and encourage fans to use it as a section to put flags up. Makes it more difficult to get in the pitch and makes it look a little more full.

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 · Dec 31, 2022

pusbccfc said:
The way I'd solve it would be to open Block 13 up to meet demand.

I'd then make the Telegraph stand cheaper. Even at £1-2 less than the rest of the ground, it would be more appealing to younger fans and would fill it out a little more evenly.

I'd then also block off the front 2 rows of every stand and encourage fans to use it as a section to put flags up. Makes it more difficult to get in the pitch and makes it look a little more full.

As much as I think that’s a good idea , I’m pretty sure the safety people and the WMP wouldn’t let them open block 13 - as they forced them to put netting over it last season when it wasn’t even open to buy tickets in

clint van damme · Dec 31, 2022

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
As much as I think that’s a good idea , I’m pretty sure the safety people and the WMP wouldn’t let them open block 13 - as they forced them to put netting over it last season when it wasn’t even open to buy tickets in

Which is ludicrous.

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 31, 2022

skybluecam said:
Fairly sure "a few" means a small number greater than 1 to be even more pedantic.

Fairy nuff

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jan 1, 2023

Should encourage fans in singers corner to move to the other end of the ground behind the goal. Create a new "West End" .
Let's face it, sitting in corners is crap and the view generally rubbish.

skyblue025 · Jan 1, 2023

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Should encourage fans in singers corner to move to the other end of the ground behind the goal. Create a new "West End" .
Let's face it, sitting in corners is crap and the view generally rubbish.

I had a season ticket in the Telegraph stand when we first moved to the Ricoh. Spent a lot of games with Sun in my eyes as it sets right behind the away fans. I wouldn't be going back in there.

Sky Blue Pete · Jan 1, 2023

skybluecam said:
Fairly sure "a few" means a small number greater than 1 to be even more pedantic.

1
Couple
Few
By definition a few has to be more than a couple

itsabuzzard · Jan 1, 2023

Sky Blue Pete said:
1
Couple
Few
By definition a few has to be more than a couple

With you on this.

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Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jan 1, 2023

skyblue025 said:
I had a season ticket in the Telegraph stand when we first moved to the Ricoh. Spent a lot of games with Sun in my eyes as it sets right behind the away fans. I wouldn't be going back in there.

It depends on the time of year. Both north and east stand views suffer from the sun at certain times and it also depends how high in the stand you sit.
Every stadium will have this problem to some degree.

MTK · Jan 1, 2023

The standing all game has spread into and down Block 16. I now struggle to see the game because I’m unable to stand For 45 minutes. At half time there is a steady stream of people coming across my row in block 16 heading up into the corner area. My ticket is checked coming up to my seat at start of the game but no one stops the half time migration into the corner that I can see. I’m contemplating moving next season but I don’t want to because I like the singing and atmosphere in 16 and it’s where I have sat since we moved to the Ricoh. But I can’t stand for 45 minutes straight. It’s actually been making me feel pretty fed up.

Ashdown · Jan 1, 2023

chiefdave said:
I don't think we have a lot of choice in that. I doubt that the club are voluntarily paying out for a larger police presence than they have to. Some of the things that are done like that stupid fence defy all logic but what can we do

We have very little push back on this because people, particularly in that corner, are incapable of behaving themselves. We've had issues with overcrowding, people standing in walkways, people refusing to sit in the right seat, persistent standing, people trying to get across no mans land to the away supporters, smoke bombs being thrown, pitch invasions, underage drinkers and open drug taking

What is Boddy supposed to say at any meeting with the authorities that will negate all that? the easiest way to get the restrictions removed is to have no trouble

It’s very lucrative for the police to paint a war zone picture in that corner. Yes there are some problems but the exaggeration to the right people gets them some nice easy highly paid overtime generally .

ccfc1234 · Jan 1, 2023

With respect to WPM I think they are a bit over zealous with how they police games at times and as a result the club have to be seen to be matching their outlook on such matters or risk looking like class A and hooligan sympathisers.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jan 1, 2023

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
It depends on the time of year. Both north and east stand views suffer from the sun at certain times and it also depends how high in the stand you sit.
Every stadium will have this problem to some degree.

Away fans should be at the other end of the stadium and then their coaches can get out quickly.

shmmeee · Jan 1, 2023

chiefdave said:
Not sure there would be a complaints procedure as such but it would all be down to the SAG so the club would get their chase to have a say at that. Although my experience of event licensing is that councils are very much you do what we say or you don’t get a license

I wonder if we as fans could petition the council on it? There’s got to be a better way that doesn’t involve killing all the atmosphere in the club.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Jan 1, 2023

chiefdave said:
Imagine if Boddy rocked up to a meeting with the safety group and took some of the suggestions on here. Storm in, tell them to fuck off and that we are going to have designated blocks for people who wanted to take class As at games

It seems like the more and more safety measures they put in like closing blocks, netting and the fence the worse the problems get.

As if it's giving those wanting to act hard even more confidence to do so because they're nice and safe behind all those protective measures. Put the people they're trying to antagonise right next to them and most wouldn't say a word.

But you'd have to be a brave person to suggest less measures given the problems. And there'd still be a handful of coked up idiots stupid enough to carry on.

maybe they need to be lenient up until the point where someone causes trouble and absolutely throw the book at each and every one of them - fines, criminal conviction, jail and a lifetime ban. No exceptions.

Evo1883 · Jan 1, 2023

Hobo said:
Those blocks have always over rated themselves as fans. Probably driven a few proper fans out?

Lol no

Dirk Turpin · Jan 1, 2023

Evo1883 said:
Lol no

To be fair I'd rather have a craft beer and be able to sit and clap all game

Evo1883 · Jan 1, 2023

Dirk Turpin said:
To be fair I'd rather have a craft beer and be able to sit and clap all game

And that's your choice

Dirk Turpin · Jan 1, 2023

Evo1883 said:
And that's your choice

I was being sarcastic lol, really enjoyed the atmosphere when I managed to get over that side.

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