I think Tony would like to know It was a Fisherism about the trust.
Apart from it being total bollocks, it was a reference to a description of the British Generals in WWI, actually they won that war, so whatever one might think about the means their strategy worked.
Apart from it being total bollocks, it was a reference to a description of the British Generals in WWI, actually they won that war, so whatever one might think about the means their strategy worked.
Can someone please explain to me the donkey and lion reference?
Lions: Typically-foot soldiers, the brave, the working class, union members etc
Donkeys: Typically-Generals, management, government etc
Tony Woodley used it on the "Save Jaguar Browns Lane" march in the city centre rally back in 2004(?) I recall, when he referred to the bench mark,quality award winning Browns Lane staff being Lions, led by the Ford management (donkeys) to a point where closure was inevitable....
Can't disagree with it from the past but getting better I think
According to the Higgs Trust Joy doesn't pay legal bills!
Maybe we should copy and paste this to Andrew Pomfrett @thefootballleagueenquiries and keep bombarding them, asking how much more crap the FL will let them get away with.
This is a very disturbing development.
If Sisu are now eroding even the principles of free speech it is time to say enough!
These bastards are beneath contempt.
Shame on you - CET
The CET forum was full of sisu lovers or plants.
True, but they should have been separate arrangements.
WHY ?
Some thoughts.
A national newspaper journalist wrote an article detailing our plight in the respected Guardian.
Something in that article spooked SISU and obviously enough to get all lawyered up (if they weren't already) and start sending letters to the supporters trust and possibly (although it hasn't been proven) to The Guardian.
The article doesn't seem to contain anything that we didn't already know except the offer from ACL via the FL.
So the question is what spooked SISU and why?
I don't think it can have been the offer via the Football league unless we get sub 1000 attendance against Crewe.
Was it wider knowledge of our plight and highlighting the fact that SISU/Seppala are involved. Again I think this is unlikely because there have been many articles in the press that mention that, although the Guardian is getting a lot of exposure thanks to the Snowden revelations.
Is it because it mentions the areas that investors come from such as European and Asian pension funds, and American universities' endowment funds. Possible but then you'd think they'd keep tabs on where they're invested i.e. which funds in which hedge.
Is it because Joy was misquoted in the article? Possible but then this is an award winning journalist for an award winning newspaper - so unlikely.
Is it because it mentions figures allegedly spent and questions our league record since they took over given this large amount of money.
So I've run out of ideas based on the content of the article as I don't understand what there is that's possibly actionable or even objectionable.
Has anyone spotted anything I've missed that they could have taken badly?
I very much doubt it Nick. They would see it as opening themselves up to more trouble.Think that they have really been spoked by this whole sorry affair.Is the letter going to be posted up?
If the letter had the intention of silencing them then it really did have the desired effect!
My guess, is that its the latest offer that has pissed them off. They started out providing a weak type of denial which everyone saw straight through (offer not made directly). I would guess that they believe it weakens their position, as ACL are using the FL to show there is a clear alternative to Northampton. For some reason, they still believe there remain people who dont know they are trying to distress ACL and CCC to get the Ricoh at a knock down price. Some may even have more respect for SiSue if they confirmed their real plans and exit strategy. I do agree that the CCC need to stop playing politics, and if they really have no intention (or ability?) to sell the Ricoh at a discounted price to allow for SiSue to gain a return on their investment (or reduce their losses), they should come out and say so in very clear language. No to the sale of the freehold, but the offer is there for short, medium and long term lease. It really forces SiSue's hand then.
A very true comment, they are quiet now.
With good reason I would have thought.
What I find quite disturbing in all this, while certain folk are salatiously calling for the letter to be printed (it seems to find some twisted spin to justify SISU's action)
no one has asked the question why single out the Trust
What I find quite disturbing in all this, while certain folk are salatiously calling for the letter to be printed (it seems to find some twisted spin to justify SISU's action) no one has asked the question why single out the Trust, even Les Rieds article bleats about the Sky Blue Trust "publishing" when in fact they didn't publish anything, only provide a link to the said article, but let's not let facts get in the way when written by a world renowned award winning journalist eh?
Why hasn't this forum been sent a letter? Or those linking the article on Facebook, Twitter, or other various media outlets who have linked the article?
Certain folk seemed to have chosen to ignore this fact, including Reid.
First they came for the communists...
What I find quite disturbing in all this, while certain folk are salatiously calling for the letter to be printed (it seems to find some twisted spin to justify SISU's action) no one has asked the question why single out the Trust, even Les Rieds article bleats about the Sky Blue Trust "publishing" when in fact they didn't publish anything, only provide a link to the said article, but let's not let facts get in the way when written by a world renowned award winning journalist eh?
Why hasn't this forum been sent a letter? Or those linking the article on Facebook, Twitter, or other various media outlets who have linked the article?
Certain folk seemed to have chosen to ignore this fact, including Reid.
First they came for the communists...
An interesting point, now my mind (simple it may be) is starting to ask why ?
The article was and still is available to view in a number of places but why single out the Sky Blue Trust ?
An interesting point, now my mind (simple it may be) is starting to ask why ?
The article was and still is available to view in a number of places but why single out the Sky Blue Trust ?
I know this may be an unpopular thing to say but...
Isn't that letter effectively saying 'we don't want to sue you as collatoral damage, so here's a heads up'?
Actually scrub that, you'd just offer a nod and w ink rather than a formal letter, wouldn't you.
I know this may be an unpopular thing to say but...
Isn't that letter effectively saying 'we don't want to sue you as collatoral damage, so here's a heads up'?
Actually scrub that, you'd just offer a nod and w ink rather than a formal letter, wouldn't you.
I dont think it is a "heads up" at all. It is a clear threat.
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