So who realistically are the teams left fighting for 5th and 6th (2 Viewers)

Chris1987

Well-Known Member
I've said exactly the same myself. They've been scraping results. A bit more difficult as it is at their place. Saw the same thing with Sunderland. 3-0 didn't do us justice.

Certainly a good time to play them.

Can you soften up Burnley for us please 😂
Sheff Utd fans saying that they're fine when playing sides which set up to defend against them but Wilder is tactically inept when teams set up to attack them.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
I've said exactly the same myself. They've been scraping results. A bit more difficult as it is at their place. Saw the same thing with Sunderland. 3-0 didn't do us justice.

Certainly a good time to play them.

Can you soften up Burnley for us please 😂

I can’t see why it’s a good time to play them. They’ve got an almost identical record to us over the last 10 games.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
Sheff Utd fans saying that they're fine when playing sides which set up to defend against them but Wilder is tactically inept when teams set up to attack them.

It’s a bit of an odd comment really as away from home they’ve won 6 in a row now.

They’ve got more points than any team in this league. I just can’t see them not get automatic promotion
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
I just hope this boring international break isn’t going to stop our momentum as it’s happened before.
I know many follow England all over but got to be honest Albania and Latvia on the tele isn’t floating my boat 💤💤
International football is dull, dull, dull.
 

wingy

Well-Known Member
suggests WBA and middlesbrough are easiest, however WBA still have to come here and go to Bristol
Sheffield Wednesday too quite ridiculous levels of the opposition, what have ours been throughout the season or am I interpreting it wrong, I mean Luton gave whoever it was a right game at the weekend, expect that could be tough, but it's all in the mindset really.
 

Chris1987

Well-Known Member
It’s a bit of an odd comment really as away from home they’ve won 6 in a row now.

They’ve got more points than any team in this league. I just can’t see them not get automatic promotion
I get the impression that they think the wins are coming because their squad is strong as opposed to anything Wilder does. The season ticket holders I know say that they aren't playing well but keep picking up the points. They certainly don't want Wilder being responsible for signing new players if they promoted.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
I get the impression that they think the wins are coming because their squad is strong as opposed to anything Wilder does. The season ticket holders I know say that they aren't playing well but keep picking up the points. They certainly don't want Wilder being responsible for signing new players if they promoted.
My mate is a big Blunt and basically tells me every week they've been shite but won again.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
Luton and Plymouth maybe down when we play them and Mboro could be well out of the play off hunt on final day.
Element of luck to how all teams fixtures fall.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
I can’t see why it’s a good time to play them. They’ve got an almost identical record to us over the last 10 games.
You said exactly the same about Sunderland to me and said they are the better team as they had 13 more points than us. You also stated how they got 18 points out of their last 30. That didn't go well.

I say it for the same reason as Sunderland. They are getting the results but are not playing well at all. Scraping results. Players are knackered as played constantly. They now have 7 players out injured. This isn't including Hamer who is playing with a muscle injury after not being given time to recover. Yes they have the points on the board. But they're nowhere near full strength. So yes it's a good time to play them.

But we are playing at their ground. So like I have said would be happy with a point.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
Why are the bookies offering big odds for the clubs Blackburn and below to make the playoffs?

We're 7 points and a better GD minimum above these teams with 8 games to go. So they need to average a point a game more than ourselves. Each time we win they need to win just to go a point behind the target.

4 wins for us from 8 games puts us on 71 points. 6 wins from 8 puts Blackburn on 70 points.

It's not really a shock that the teams further down the league have bigger odds.

Points per game is a very one dimensional way of looking at it. Yes, we are in a good place, but let's not get dizzy. There's still 8 games to go. One loss and that gap can close to practically a coin flip with 7 games left.

Hopefully we can get the job done early enough, and enjoy the journey along the way, but don't be naive to think we can't fuck it up.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
It's not really a shock that the teams further down the league have bigger odds.

Points per game is a very one dimensional way of looking at it. Yes, we are in a good place, but let's not get dizzy. There's still 8 games to go. One loss and that gap can close to practically a coin flip with 7 games left.

Hopefully we can get the job done early enough, and enjoy the journey along the way, but don't be naive to think we can't fuck it up.
So if we don't go by how many points we have on the board are we allowed to use present form? Our present form is excellent. The teams that were well above us just 12 games ago and are now 7 points or more below us are in poor form.

We only need 4 wins out of our last 8 games to be on 71 points. How many others can you see reaching 70 points?
 
Last edited:

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
So if we don't go by how many points we have on the board are we allowed to use present form? Our present form is excellent. The teams that were well above us just 12 games ago and are now 5 points or more below us are in poor form.

We only need 4 wins out of our last 8 games to be on 71 points. How many others can you see reaching 70 points?

Any team can go on a run of form, any team can fuck it up. We see it every year. We might be in a great position, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

What are you even arguing for? Calm down.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
That's an interesting "which would you prefer?". Grimes & Rudoni, or Hamer & O'hare. I'd prefer Hamer over Grimes, but Rudi over O'hare.

Grimes wants to play for us, Hamer doesn't.

On that basis I'd rather Grimey
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
Any team can go on a run of form, any team can fuck it up. We see it every year. We might be in a great position, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

What are you even arguing for? Calm down.
Arguing? Just replying to you saying points on the board don't matter. Replying to you saying teams in poor form could suddenly start winning and we could start losing.

Who has guaranteed anything?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
Arguing? Just replying to you saying points on the board don't matter. Replying to you saying teams in poor form could suddenly start winning and we could start losing.

Who has guaranteed anything?

I didn't say points on the board didn't matter. You're making that up to get angry about something that isn't there.

I'm saying we shouldn't be complacent and think teams below us can't go on a mad run and take advantage of others that might drop points. You are acting as if the gap is 15 points.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
Grimes wants to play for us, Hamer doesn't.

On that basis I'd rather Grimey
Hamer took the money and a shot at the Prem.

If we go up and they don't there's no doubt who he would prefer to play for. They're flogging him to death. They're not letting his injuries clear up. It looks with the extra weight he is carrying that he maybe isn't training 100%

But they would want too much for him and I don't think we should have him back.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
I didn't say points on the board didn't matter. You're making that up to get angry about something that isn't there.

I'm saying we shouldn't be complacent and think teams below us can't go on a mad run and take advantage of others that might drop points. You are acting as if the gap is 15 points.

I think its a question of likelihood. And with that its highly unlikely that more than one team below us is going to go on a mad run. Also normally when a play off team does that it starts earlier than this.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
Hamer took the money and a shot at the Prem.

If we go up and they don't there's no doubt who he would prefer to play for. They're flogging him to death. They're not letting his injuries clear up. It looks with the extra weight he is carrying that he maybe isn't training 100%

But they would want too much for him and I don't think we should have him back.

I've nothing against him, but he has to live by the decisions he made.

As far as I'm concerned we're no ones second best. You either want to play for us or you don't.
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
I didn't say points on the board didn't matter. You're making that up to get angry about something that isn't there.

I'm saying we shouldn't be complacent and think teams below us can't go on a mad run and take advantage of others that might drop points. You are acting as if the gap is 15 points.
7 points behind us with 8 games to go is massive especially for teams in poor form. Their GD is also not good. We win 4 out of 8. They would have to win 6 and draw the other 2 or win 7 out of 8.

That isn't being overconfident. That's just plain reality.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
7 points behind us with 8 games to go is massive especially for teams in poor form. Their GD is also not good. We win 4 out of 8. They would have to win 6 and draw the other 2 or win 7 out of 8.

That isn't being overconfident. That's just plain reality.

Well I hope you are right!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
Hamer took the money and a shot at the Prem.

If we go up and they don't there's no doubt who he would prefer to play for. They're flogging him to death. They're not letting his injuries clear up. It looks with the extra weight he is carrying that he maybe isn't training 100%

But they would want too much for him and I don't think we should have him back.

We all know what's causing his weight issues, and it's nothing to do with injuries
Can't remember who but a couple of players even joked about his lifestyle when he was here in a city unseen video
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
We all know what's causing his weight issues, and it's nothing to do with injuries
Can't remember who but a couple of players even joked about his lifestyle when he was here in a city unseen video

I remember after the Middlesboro play off game Robins said in his interview on Sky that Hamer was going to have them all out till 4am
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
We all know what's causing his weight issues, and it's nothing to do with injuries
Can't remember who but a couple of players even joked about his lifestyle when he was here in a city unseen video
He must have trained harder with us or his overindulgence has got worse.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
7 points behind us with 8 games to go is massive especially for teams in poor form. Their GD is also not good. We win 4 out of 8. They would have to win 6 and draw the other 2 or win 7 out of 8.

That isn't being overconfident. That's just plain reality.

At the current run rates, Sunderland are not out of reach. We could quite easily lose to Sheff U as well as Burnley and still catch up to Sunderland if we won the remaining 6 as that would put us on 77 points. They’ve got some tough opponents coming up where you wouldn’t expect them to lose but there’ll be a few draws in there.

I’m not a gambling man and wouldn’t bet on finishing 4th, it’s just not as impossible as it seems.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
At the current run rates, Sunderland are not out of reach. We could quite easily lose to Sheff U as well as Burnley and still catch up to Sunderland if we won the remaining 6 as that would put us on 77 points. They’ve got some tough opponents coming up where you wouldn’t expect them to lose but there’ll be a few draws in there.

I’m not a gambling man and wouldn’t bet on finishing 4th, it’s just not as impossible as it seems.

Its hard to predict what will happen. I think our two most difficult remaining games could be Plymouth & Luton away. They will be fighting for their lives
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
At the current run rates, Sunderland are not out of reach. We could quite easily lose to Sheff U as well as Burnley and still catch up to Sunderland if we won the remaining 6 as that would put us on 77 points. They’ve got some tough opponents coming up where you wouldn’t expect them to lose but there’ll be a few draws in there.

I’m not a gambling man and wouldn’t bet on finishing 4th, it’s just not as impossible as it seems.
I've been saying that for a couple of weeks. Now we have got the win against them it certainly is possible. Most people can't see it though.

Falling away from the top 2 then getting totally outplayed won't help their cause. I'd be happy with 5th though as long as they stay 4th.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top