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Solutions to complete the Season (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 13, 2020
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Alkhen

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #71
How about continue until we can't, then promote the teams in 1st and 2nd. No relegation and just have larger leagues next year. Could reduce league by a team by 1 a year over the next two to get back to normal
 
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DionDublinsJockstrap

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #72
Lots of good suggestions in this thread. I personally would go with postponing the competition for as long is appropriate, and then conclude. There would then need to be a catch up period which would be a combination of
Cancellation of Euros
Two matches a week on resumption
Behind closed doors on resumption (earlier resumption?)
Changes to next season (no EFL trophy / League Cup / reduced number of fixtures)
Reduced fixtures could be done on a seeding basis based on this seasons performance. This could ensure a fair balance of fixtures for all teams. Crickets county championship has dealt with this in the past. Not the same I know.

Big big issue is cash flow for football clubs particularly in the lower leagues. Perhaps now is the time for Sky and The Premier League to show a bit of philanthropy. (Pig has just flown past my window)
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #73
They can do promotions and no relegations on current standings
 
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DionDublinsJockstrap

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #74
One final point - will the league have rules in place to deal with this type of situation?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #75
skyblue1991 said:
We've had a great season and I would be frustrated if it was cancelled, suspended, delayed etc

However...

In times like this you have to realise its only a game and theres more on life, like ours and everyone associated with a football club's health.

Best case is every single game is played behind closed doors with free iFollow for season tickets, discounted rate for members and standard fee for everyone else.

Worst case is the season becomes void and we just have to accept it.

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It is only a game, but they are also businesses. No games equals no money coming in, which could cause some teams serious trouble as staff/players still need to be played.

Also, how would you compensate teams like us/Leeds/West Brom that are so close to promotion and the improved finance that would bring? We get about £6.5m just for competing next year if we're in the Championship, expect we'd request that as compensation as a minimum of the league was voided. I can't see it happening.

I think we'll get a couple more weeks of games in, then it might be postponed until after the peak. Really can't see any form of cancellation as the compensation that would need paying would be significant.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #76
Alkhen said:
How about continue until we can't, then promote the teams in 1st and 2nd. No relegation and just have larger leagues next year. Could reduce league by a team by 1 a year over the next two to get back to normal
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Not going to happen. What if Cov and Rotherham play 37 games and go up....say Oxford play 36 and are behind Rotherham by 2 points. How is that fair?

People need to start thinking about legal implications of all options. It's great coming up with these hypothetical options but they simply are ludicrous due to the lack of fairness and potential for legal action.
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #77
The common sense way if they have to stop the season altogether is to give everyone their average points earned over the full allocation of games or up to the point where everyone has 'played' the same amount of games.
They can't void and write off the season, there is way too much money at stake in the championship/premier league level and if they cant do it there then it stands to reason that they can't void l1 and l2 season off either.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #78
Grendel said:
They can do promotions and no relegations on current standings
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No they cant. That would open the EFL up to legal action by teams who will say that they could've got promoted had they played all their games.
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #79
Grendel said:
They can do promotions and no relegations on current standings
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Wouldn't be fair.

1. Some teams may have played fewer games (Swindon/Crewe in L2)
2. Some teams may have a higher proportion of difficult games remaining.

Pools panel would be fairer, albeit still imperfect.
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #80
Just finish the season behind closed doors then nothing has to get cancelled. Tbh I dont want my summer ruined because ofsome Chinese twats
 
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Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #81
eastwoodsdustman said:
The common sense way if they have to stop the season altogether is to give everyone their average points earned over the full allocation of games or up to the point where everyone has 'played' the same amount of games.
They can't void and write off the season, there is way too much money at stake in the championship/premier league level and if they cant do it there then it stands to reason that they can't void l1 and l2 season off either.
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Again, they can't do your first suggestion because it's not fair. What if a team is lower down the league but had an 'easier' run in against lower sides and could've picked up a higher average PPG compared to their PPG average so far? What about teams coming into form the past few weeks?

It just can't be fair for a few reasons.

Your second sentence is correct though.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #82
Skyblueweeman said:
No they cant. That would open the EFL up to legal action by teams who will say that they could've got promoted had they played all their games.
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They can there are clauses in the league rules which all teams have signed up to as members
 
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The coventrian

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #83
Grendel said:
They can there are clauses in the league rules which all teams have signed up to as members
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Just do it now then . Job done.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #84
Grendel said:
They can there are clauses in the league rules which all teams have signed up to as members
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Can you show me them? Not trying to be difficult...I just find it incredulous that they would have those rules in place (and that teams would agree to them) when it would be massively open to scrutiny in terms of screwing teams over.

Happy to be proven wrong.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #85
mrtrench said:
Wouldn't be fair.

1. Some teams may have played fewer games (Swindon/Crewe in L2)
2. Some teams may have a higher proportion of difficult games remaining.

Pools panel would be fairer, albeit still imperfect.
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You could just do it on points per game.

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Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #86
Two things in this thread which I must comment on.

Firstly, this system that I use assumes it is the final day of the season and where the team will finish. If the season cuts off for some reason you would expect whatever position the teams are in this rating league to be their final positions.

However, with all threads, the genius is often lurking somewhere else...

Travs said:
Play all remaining games on Sensible Soccer on the Amiga...
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This, of course, is the correct and only right thing to do.

I would definetly offer my services but my demands would be to buy Asprilla from Newcastle to partner Ndlovu, and Mark Draper from Villa in an attacking midfielder role.

Already transfer listed John Salako to get extra money.

 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #87
mrtrench said:
Wouldn't be fair.

1. Some teams may have played fewer games (Swindon/Crewe in L2)
2. Some teams may have a higher proportion of difficult games remaining.

Pools panel would be fairer, albeit still imperfect.
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They can equalise the season with each team getting a point a game until the end
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #88
Mcbean said:
The problem is that the numbers effected (virus) will be massive in two months time - need some immunity building up
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Exactly, there's no guarantee how long this will go on for is there?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #89
Grendel said:
They can equalise the season with each team getting a point a game until the end
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I am fine with that.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #90
Looks like PL and EFL suspended until 4th April.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #91
Ooh fook I thing this season could end in tears.
Logic walks out the door when Clubs/ money and emotions come in to play.

SISU’s lawyers are likely to be switched on already.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #92
torchomatic said:
Looks like PL and EFL suspended until 4th April.
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Where is this info from. Plausible but let’s see what happens.

I’m peed of that we may lose momentum if there is a long break.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #93
Sensible and only option (fair option) is suspend and play remaining games when it’s safe to do so. Delay start of the 20/21 season to October if you have to. Also transfer window doesn’t open in summer until 19/20 season has finished and allow any current loans to be extended.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #94
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #95
standupforcity said:
Promote top two and go straight to play offs behind closed doors. And same with bottom four. Desperate I know but better than voiding the season. Hate this idea personally... so fingers crossed there's a fairer solution. Glad I'm not making the decisions..
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I think the decision is easy if it is the right one for us.
After 34 games we are only 4 short of the Prem season anyway.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #96
mark82 said:
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Poo. What about tomorrow. Please be on.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #97
And maybe for this season only dispense with the play offs. Straight fight and top three go up from each division. It will be a nightmare as it is fitting all the games it without having extra matches for the play offs and a Wembley final.
 
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100 miles from Cov.

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #98
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Sensible and only option (fair option) is suspend and play remaining games when it’s safe to do so. Delay start of the 20/21 season to October if you have to. Also transfer window doesn’t open in summer until 19/20 season has finished and allow any current loans to be extended.
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What about the cashflow? No games will mean minimal income. Players will still need their wages. Club staff will still need their wages.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #99
League will have to cover wages im guessing?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #100
SkyBlueDom26 said:
League will have to cover wages im guessing?
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Spanish league were saying they have no spare funds for wages cos they give it all to the clubs. I wouldn’t bank on the leagues having the cash to cover hundreds of player wages.
 
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Cigarfingers

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #101
Could you not just award all the teams their points per game for every unplayed game that is left? So if we're on 1.97 PPG then we get 9x that added to our current total.
Should be a fair way to do it IMHO
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #102
Skyblueweeman said:
Not going to happen. What if Cov and Rotherham play 37 games and go up....say Oxford play 36 and are behind Rotherham by 2 points. How is that fair?

People need to start thinking about legal implications of all options. It's great coming up with these hypothetical options but they simply are ludicrous due to the lack of fairness and potential for legal action.
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The league have standard protection clauses which will allow them the final say
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #103
If they did go down the simulation route, for reference I simulated the run-in last night on FIFA 20 and the result was 'EA Catalog Update Error, Please Restart' so get a couple of quid on that, hot tip
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #104
Can't believe no one has mentioned this, but Sunderland currently sit in 7th outside the playoffs.

End the season as it is lads!

 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 13, 2020
  • #105
Grendel said:
The league have standard protection clauses which will allow them the final say
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Again, as per me asking you earlier on...have you seen those in writing or are you making an assumption? Please show me if the former.

To repeat, I'm not being difficult with you G, I would just be astounded if they allowed some of the situations mentioned above, to happen.
 
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