Southport Stabbing (11 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

A bit left field this but I just read a book about indigenous peoples living traditionally . One interesting fact that struck me is that the author noted the village communities they lived in did not have prisons, delinquents or mental health problems. I tend to think social workers are a sticking plaster on a gaping wound caused by the way we live, there are many problems, poor diets, materialism, lack of family cohesion, lack of purpose etc. etc.
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Ignore the non PC language, this was written in 1938.

 

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[Grendel]

Wow really

The one that was really bugging me as I couldn’t remember his name was Ronnie Alcala

He appeared on The Dating Game - the same as Blind Date here and was chosen by the female contest but she thought he was creepy and refused the date.

He was already on the child sex offender register and had served time. He intended to kill the winner after raping her.

Alcala was found guilty of 12 murders but has 100’s of photos of people who were in a distressed state and it’s believed he killed around 130

Surprise Suprise

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The one that was really bugging me as I couldn’t remember his name was Ronnie Alcala

He appeared on The Dating Game - the same as Blind Date here and was chosen by the female contest but she thought he was creepy and refused the date.

He was already on the child sex offender register and had served time. He intended to kill the winner after raping her.

Alcala was found guilty of 12 murders but has 100’s of photos of people who were in a distressed state and it’s believed he killed around 130

Surprise Suprise

Wow unbelievable
We’re so shit at dealing with risk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The tragic events in Southport have deeply affected the community and the nation.

Merciful God, we come before You with heavy hearts, mourning the innocent lives lost in Southport. We entrust the souls of the departed into Your loving embrace. Grant peace and healing to the injured, strength to their families, and comfort to all who grieve. Guide the community to unity and resilience in the face of this tragedy. May Your light dispel the darkness of violence and lead us all toward paths of peace. Amen.

 

[shmmeee]

Think this really says something about our media environment

 

[SBT]

The percentage in this thread has got to be way higher, surely?

 

[Nick]

Didn't he plead guilty to charges under the terror act? Literally a terrorist.

Has it categorically been confirmed he was in no way Muslim through it all? That's a genuine question

If people had believed this thread months ago he had just finished his bell ringing class, church studies and a wave of mental illness made him do it.

 

[Ian1779]

Has it categorically been confirmed he was in no way Muslim through it all? That's a genuine question

If people had believed this thread months ago he had just finished his bell ringing class, church studies and a wave of mental illness made him do it.

 

[Nick]

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My point was, why not say at the time "he's not even Muslim" or "there's nothing to suggest he is" When people were kicking off?

And yeah. He's a convicted terrorist.

 

[Ian1779]

My point was, why not say at the time "he's not even Muslim" or "there's nothing to suggest he is" When people were kicking off?

And yeah. He's a convicted terrorist.

He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?

 

[Nick]

He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?

Has that been confirmed? I'm on about now, not the choirboy stuff.

 

[Como]

If the Southport murderer had been white then this thread would have gone the same way as the Kyle Clifford Crossbow murderer thread.

I assume it is because he is Welsh and a Choir Boy

 

[SBT]

My point was, why not say at the time "he's not even Muslim" or "there's nothing to suggest he is" When people were kicking off?

Because they were looking to establish the facts?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I assume it is because he is Welsh and a Choir Boy

151 days since a Coventry City related post

 

[shmmeee]

Didn't he plead guilty to charges under the terror act? Literally a terrorist.

Has it categorically been confirmed he was in no way Muslim through it all? That's a genuine question

If people had believed this thread months ago he had just finished his bell ringing class, church studies and a wave of mental illness made him do it.

No. He plead guilty to possessing terrorist material. And there’s no evidence he’s Muslim no.

 

[Harry Krishner]

"And there’s no evidence he’s Muslim no."

Other than using a style of attack popular among Islamists...and the al Qaeda manual.

 

[shmmeee]

"And there’s no evidence he’s Muslim no."

Other than using a style of attack popular among Islamists...and the al Qaeda manual.

So no evidence. He was obsessed with violence and had all kinds of violent material it’s just we only class the Al Queda stuff as terrorist material. It’s not hard to grasp unless you’re trying desperately not to.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?

He was certainly raised as a Christian

 

[MalcSB]

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Maslow hierarchy of needs.

 

[MalcSB]

So no evidence. He was obsessed with violence and had all kinds of violent material it’s just we only class the Al Queda stuff as terrorist material. It’s not hard to grasp unless you’re trying desperately not to.

You accuse everybody of desperately trying to prove something when you are equally as desperately trying to disprove the same thing.

He was known to the authorities who should and could have surely done something to protect the public. But they didn’.t.

 

[MalcSB]

He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?

Doesn’t being a Christian involve living your life in a certain way which doesn't include stabbing little girls to death?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Doesn’t being a Christian involve living your life in a certain way which doesn't include stabbing little girls to death?

There’s a game on malc

 

[Ian1779]

Doesn’t being a Christian involve living your life in a certain way which doesn't include stabbing little girls to death?

So does Islam and Judaism - doesn’t mean there aren’t fuckheads that proscribe to the religion and manipulate it for their own pernicious ends.

 

[MalcSB]

So does Islam and Judaism - doesn’t mean there aren’t fuckheads that proscribe to the religion and manipulate it for their own pernicious ends.

So he could be a Christian terrorist?

 

[Ian1779]

So he could be a Christian terrorist?

I didn't dispute the terrorist comment.

His religion is not really relevant - it’s only Nick trying to make it into something it isn’t.

 

[MalcSB]

There’s a game on malc

Yes, if only the fucking stream was working

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Does this help at all Nick?

Southport: Axel Rudakubana’s parents asked police four times for help with teen

Police were repeatedly called and teachers raised fears over teen researching terror attack on school computer in a string of missed opportunities to halt killer

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Hadn’t seen this either

Alder Hey Hospital issue new update about Southport killer Axel Rudakubana

Following the sentencing of Axel Rudakubana for the killings of three girls in July 2024, Alder Hey Children's Hospital have said the killer was under its care

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[MalcSB]

There’s a game on malc

Delayed reaction - hark who is talking.

Why is it that the page that says Error404, page can't be found never gets lost?

Yes, if only the fucking stream was working

So we shouldn't do any checks then ?

Hard to do in practice when most of the people arriving by irregular means have disposed of their paperwork and then some claim to be 14.

 

[Grendel]

It isn't the answer though, is it? "we have no money, can't do it" isn't an answer.

What next, you are going to imagine you're a mind reader and determine how much tax I am willing to pay and for what causes?

"Some of us want to fix this?" Yeah course, while you're acting like his parents had zero clue what was going on.

It now appears that they knew about the Ricin and said they’d make sure the seeds were no longer delivered to the neighbour

 

[SBT]

It’s all a bit Gibbo, Burnsy and Cheeks

 

[Ring Of Steel]

152 days without commenting on Coventry city

The account he’s linking up there suggests that black people are stupid but are very good at jumping; that Africans can’t build civilisations because all they can do is run fast, and he calls for the military to be white only.

 

[Nick]

If people have got to him, why only give him a bit of a slap and not kill him?

 

[Tommo1993]

Think the rumour has been debunked. Unfortunately.

 

[Grendel]

The account he’s linking up there suggests that black people are stupid but are very good at jumping; that Africans can’t build civilisations because all they can do is run fast, and he calls for the military to be white only.

Enjoy the game yesterday?