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shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,676
Captain Dart said:
A bit left field this but I just read a book about indigenous peoples living traditionally . One interesting fact that struck me is that the author noted the village communities they lived in did not have prisons, delinquents or mental health problems. I tend to think social workers are a sticking plaster on a gaping wound caused by the way we live, there are many problems, poor diets, materialism, lack of family cohesion, lack of purpose etc. etc.
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Ignore the non PC language, this was written in 1938.
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Grendel

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,677
Sky Blue Pete said:
Wow really
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The one that was really bugging me as I couldn’t remember his name was Ronnie Alcala

He appeared on The Dating Game - the same as Blind Date here and was chosen by the female contest but she thought he was creepy and refused the date.

He was already on the child sex offender register and had served time. He intended to kill the winner after raping her.

Alcala was found guilty of 12 murders but has 100’s of photos of people who were in a distressed state and it’s believed he killed around 130

Surprise Suprise
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,678
Grendel said:
The one that was really bugging me as I couldn’t remember his name was Ronnie Alcala

He appeared on The Dating Game - the same as Blind Date here and was chosen by the female contest but she thought he was creepy and refused the date.

He was already on the child sex offender register and had served time. He intended to kill the winner after raping her.

Alcala was found guilty of 12 murders but has 100’s of photos of people who were in a distressed state and it’s believed he killed around 130

Surprise Suprise
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Wow unbelievable
We’re so shit at dealing with risk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,679
The tragic events in Southport have deeply affected the community and the nation.

Merciful God, we come before You with heavy hearts, mourning the innocent lives lost in Southport. We entrust the souls of the departed into Your loving embrace. Grant peace and healing to the injured, strength to their families, and comfort to all who grieve. Guide the community to unity and resilience in the face of this tragedy. May Your light dispel the darkness of violence and lead us all toward paths of peace. Amen.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,680


Think this really says something about our media environment
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,681
The percentage in this thread has got to be way higher, surely?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,682
Didn't he plead guilty to charges under the terror act? Literally a terrorist.

Has it categorically been confirmed he was in no way Muslim through it all? That's a genuine question

If people had believed this thread months ago he had just finished his bell ringing class, church studies and a wave of mental illness made him do it.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,683
Nick said:
Has it categorically been confirmed he was in no way Muslim through it all? That's a genuine question

If people had believed this thread months ago he had just finished his bell ringing class, church studies and a wave of mental illness made him do it.
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Nick

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,684
Ian1779 said:
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My point was, why not say at the time "he's not even Muslim" or "there's nothing to suggest he is" When people were kicking off?

And yeah. He's a convicted terrorist.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,685
Nick said:
My point was, why not say at the time "he's not even Muslim" or "there's nothing to suggest he is" When people were kicking off?

And yeah. He's a convicted terrorist.
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He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,686
Ian1779 said:
He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?
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Has that been confirmed? I'm on about now, not the choirboy stuff.
 

Como

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,687
torchomatic said:
If the Southport murderer had been white then this thread would have gone the same way as the Kyle Clifford Crossbow murderer thread.
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I assume it is because he is Welsh and a Choir Boy

 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,688
Nick said:
My point was, why not say at the time "he's not even Muslim" or "there's nothing to suggest he is" When people were kicking off?
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Because they were looking to establish the facts?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,689
Como said:
I assume it is because he is Welsh and a Choir Boy

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151 days since a Coventry City related post
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,690
Nick said:
Didn't he plead guilty to charges under the terror act? Literally a terrorist.

Has it categorically been confirmed he was in no way Muslim through it all? That's a genuine question

If people had believed this thread months ago he had just finished his bell ringing class, church studies and a wave of mental illness made him do it.
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No. He plead guilty to possessing terrorist material. And there’s no evidence he’s Muslim no.
 

Harry Krishner

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,691
"And there’s no evidence he’s Muslim no."

Other than using a style of attack popular among Islamists...and the al Qaeda manual.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,692
Harry Krishner said:
"And there’s no evidence he’s Muslim no."

Other than using a style of attack popular among Islamists...and the al Qaeda manual.
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So no evidence. He was obsessed with violence and had all kinds of violent material it’s just we only class the Al Queda stuff as terrorist material. It’s not hard to grasp unless you’re trying desperately not to.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,693
Ian1779 said:
He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?
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He was certainly raised as a Christian
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,694
shmmeee said:
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Maslow hierarchy of needs.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,695
shmmeee said:
So no evidence. He was obsessed with violence and had all kinds of violent material it’s just we only class the Al Queda stuff as terrorist material. It’s not hard to grasp unless you’re trying desperately not to.
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You accuse everybody of desperately trying to prove something when you are equally as desperately trying to disprove the same thing.

He was known to the authorities who should and could have surely done something to protect the public. But they didn’.t.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,696
Ian1779 said:
He is a Christian - why are you desperate for that not to be true?
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Doesn’t being a Christian involve living your life in a certain way which doesn't include stabbing little girls to death?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,697
MalcSB said:
Doesn’t being a Christian involve living your life in a certain way which doesn't include stabbing little girls to death?
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There’s a game on malc
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,698
MalcSB said:
Doesn’t being a Christian involve living your life in a certain way which doesn't include stabbing little girls to death?
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So does Islam and Judaism - doesn’t mean there aren’t fuckheads that proscribe to the religion and manipulate it for their own pernicious ends.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,699
Ian1779 said:
So does Islam and Judaism - doesn’t mean there aren’t fuckheads that proscribe to the religion and manipulate it for their own pernicious ends.
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So he could be a Christian terrorist?
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,700
MalcSB said:
So he could be a Christian terrorist?
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I didn't dispute the terrorist comment.

His religion is not really relevant - it’s only Nick trying to make it into something it isn’t.
 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 25, 2025
  • #3,701
Ccfcisparks said:
There’s a game on malc
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Yes, if only the fucking stream was working
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,702
Does this help at all Nick?

Southport: Axel Rudakubana’s parents asked police four times for help with teen

Police were repeatedly called and teachers raised fears over teen researching terror attack on school computer in a string of missed opportunities to halt killer
www.independent.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,703
Hadn’t seen this either

Alder Hey Hospital issue new update about Southport killer Axel Rudakubana

Following the sentencing of Axel Rudakubana for the killings of three girls in July 2024, Alder Hey Children's Hospital have said the killer was under its care
www.walesonline.co.uk
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,704
Ccfcisparks said:
There’s a game on malc
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Delayed reaction - hark who is talking.

Why is it that the page that says Error404, page can't be found never gets lost?
MalcSB said:
Yes, if only the fucking stream was working
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Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So we shouldn't do any checks then ?
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Hard to do in practice when most of the people arriving by irregular means have disposed of their paperwork and then some claim to be 14.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,705
Nick said:
It isn't the answer though, is it? "we have no money, can't do it" isn't an answer.

What next, you are going to imagine you're a mind reader and determine how much tax I am willing to pay and for what causes?

"Some of us want to fix this?" Yeah course, while you're acting like his parents had zero clue what was going on.
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It now appears that they knew about the Ricin and said they’d make sure the seeds were no longer delivered to the neighbour
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,706
It’s all a bit Gibbo, Burnsy and Cheeks
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,707
Ccfcisparks said:
152 days without commenting on Coventry city
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The account he’s linking up there suggests that black people are stupid but are very good at jumping; that Africans can’t build civilisations because all they can do is run fast, and he calls for the military to be white only.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,708
If people have got to him, why only give him a bit of a slap and not kill him?
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,709
Think the rumour has been debunked. Unfortunately.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 26, 2025
  • #3,710
Ring Of Steel said:
The account he’s linking up there suggests that black people are stupid but are very good at jumping; that Africans can’t build civilisations because all they can do is run fast, and he calls for the military to be white only.
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Enjoy the game yesterday?
 
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