Was it? He was convicted of encouraging violent disorder and criminal damage, he wasn't sent down for "misinformation".
Was it? He was convicted of encouraging violent disorder and criminal damage, he wasn't sent down for "misinformation".Because part of his crime was spreading misinformation....
It is comparing other crimes with similar sentences when asked if it was a fair sentence, of course other cases and crimes will be mentioned.
Was it? He was convicted of encouraging violent disorder and criminal damage, he wasn't sent down for "misinformation".
Sentencing him, Judge Neil Flewitt KC said the defendant was 'prominent' among people responsible for spreading misinformation following the Southport attack.
MaybeTo be fair, he should have done it in the name of Islam and encouraged people to carry out terror offences and he would have got less:
Birmingham Daesh supporter convicted of terror offences following friend's prison sentence
A 19-year-old man from Birmingham has today been found guilty of terrorism offences following a trial at Birmingham Crown Court.www.counterterrorism.police.uk
Yes, thank you, I saw that the first time - it's not what he was convicted for though, is it?
This is nonsense - everything that is "part of" a crime isn't a crime in itself.Well yeah, it's part of what the crime was in trying to stir things up ...
This is nonsense - everything that is "part of" a crime isn't a crime in itself.
I assume you're suggesting Hope Not Hate should be prosecuted for spreading misinformation - good luck proving that they were encouraging violent disorder and criminal damage.
Do you ever get tired running all this interference and whataboutism any time someone gets convicted after attending or organising a far-right racist protest?They don't need to be, the spreading misinformation part is enough to at least start off with an arrest.
Do you ever get tired running all this interference and whataboutism any time someone gets convicted after attending or organising a far-right racist protest?
Yes - "whataboutism" in other words"Running all this interference"
You asked if I thought his prison sentence was fair, you got an answer with other crimes that got the same or less.
I clearly said he deserved prison but wasn't sure about the length of sentence.
Yes - "whataboutism" in other words
Your consistency in standing up for him, and those who share his views, is well noted
In fairness they arguably did encourage the mob to mentality to protect when they said the far right grouping in Birmingham. If you remember it was outside that pub and the idiot that came out got beaten up by herd mentality. Surely their actions incited that in the same way this guy suggesting mobbing up outside the hotel.This is nonsense - everything that is "part of" a crime isn't a crime in itself.
I assume you're suggesting Hope Not Hate should be prosecuted for spreading misinformation - good luck proving that they were encouraging violent disorder and criminal damage.
You would have to prove that Hope Not Hate deliberately spread misinformation with the intention of creating violent disorder - no-one could argue that with a straight face.In fairness they arguably did encourage the mob to mentality to protect when they said the far right grouping in Birmingham. If you remember it was outside that pub and the idiot that came out got beaten up by herd mentality. Surely their actions incited that in the same way this guy suggesting mobbing up outside the hotel.
I bet I could, Im a member of the Labour party. From top to bottom, we can argue anything with a straight face.You would have to prove that Hope Not Hate deliberately spread misinformation with the intention of creating violent disorder - no-one could argue that with a straight face.
How can he plead not guilty to carrying a bladed weapon?Southport stabbings: Not guilty pleas entered for Axel Rudakubana
Not guilty pleas were entered on charges of murdering three girls and attempting to kill 10 others.www.bbc.co.uk
Pleading Not guilty to all charges.... unbelievable tbh.
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