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Nick

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,151
shmmeee said:
Any ideas why the deep state was laundering these killers lads?

Chilling never-before-seen photos of killer mom Susan Smith

Killer mom Susan Smith can be seen smiling sweetly in her yearbook photos just five years before she brutally murdered her two young sons aged three and 14 months.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Serial killer who was humiliated as a child before killing 17 people

Dubbed the 'Monster of Liguria' and the 'Riviera Killer' for his terrorising of the region in the late 90s, Bilancia murdered 17 people over the course of just six months.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Throwback snaps see serial killers in their yearbook photos

Just like your average college student, these twisted criminals also had to sit for their yearbook photos, and you'd be forgiven for thinking they were normal people just like everyone else.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Probably something to do with Muslims I’m sure.
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Why is it only you going on about deep state?

What are the time frames between these articles and the crime? I heard about the first one on a podcast and I can tell you that's a good 30+ years ago.

I'm sure you can see the difference in an article 30 years after the crime, probably if there's a book out or something about it and what happened in this case.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,152
Nick said:
Do they?

Damn I missed seeing Harold Shipman doing keepups with his U7's team.
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They do it all the time, build em up and then knock em down. Not a serious comment!
Do you happen to know more of the father's background, Warlord for which side?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,153
Nick said:
The point is that the flames were fanned with petrol.

Locals already knew who he was and were posting about him and things were getting deleted. People were getting the "He was a choir boy" thing thrown at them when people who knew him were saying he was calling for Genocides at school and was kicked out for bringing a knife into school and going back to attack somebody with a hockey stick. At this point, the police would have known full well he was producing ricin in his house ffs. He was known to police and they would have known all of this within minutes of the attack.

I get it, did they want to avoid community tensions? If anything they stirred them up much more.
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You getting riled up about a picture spread around by news outlets and social media isn’t exactly evidence of some deep state conspiracy.

What exactly did you expect was going to be different if we’s seen a slightly more sinister photo early doors?

Remember a small group of idiots demonstrated their outrage at the heinous crimes by doing over a Greggs.

Have you ever considered that the entire structure that should be able to pick up and intervene is understaffed, underfunded and under resourced? And that with all of these in place there is a possibility that some of these things could be addressed and stopped?

There are failings here for sure in this whole situation, but we go through this reflection process allowing the same failings to go on and on without doing anything differently, same with Baby P and the failing of social
workers etc.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,154
Nick said:
How wasn't it like that? What have I said in that that is wrong?
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The crime was unspeakably evil within hours there were rumours of it being an immigrant Muslim
The police confirmed his name and where he was from his age and then that he was from Rwandan parents
Then I think it’s countering narrative out
You saying the press were reporting what the government were peddling is where we misalign
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,155
PVA said:
Deliberately misleading or the only public photo of him? (think it was from a newspaper article or something)
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Only public photo, really?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,156
Captain Dart said:
I think you meant to say deliberately misleading with intent to present him as an innocent.
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Serious?? Who released the picture cooper??
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,157
Sky Blue Pete said:
The crime was unspeakably evil within hours there were rumours of it being an immigrant Muslim
The police confirmed his name and where he was from his age and then that he was from Rwandan parents
Then I think it’s countering narrative out
You saying the press were reporting what the government were peddling is where we misalign
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Can you quote me saying "the press were reporting what the government were peddling"?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,158
Captain Dart said:
Only public photo, really?
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I'm really not sure what you are moaning about.

Are you upset he wasn't photographed holding a knife or something?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,159
Ian1779 said:
You getting riled up about a picture spread around by news outlets and social media isn’t exactly evidence of some deep state conspiracy.

What exactly did you expect was going to be different if we’s seen a slightly more sinister photo early doors?

Remember a small group of idiots demonstrated their outrage at the heinous crimes by doing over a Greggs.

Have you ever considered that the entire structure that should be able to pick up and intervene is understaffed, underfunded and under resourced? And that with all of these in place there is a possibility that some of these things could be addressed and stopped?

There are failings here for sure in this whole situation, but we go through this reflection process allowing the same failings to go on and on without doing anything differently, same with Baby P and the failing of social
workers etc.
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It's hardly riled up and I can't remember saying anything about a deep state conspiracy, yeah there are people mentioning his dad and Starmer and all that but it's nothing I'd claim or mention as fact.

People were angry when it happened, can you really not see how it did anything but calm down any unrest by pushing him as a little choirboy after 3 kids had just been killed and many more attacked? It was painting his innocence from the start and the police knew from day one how sinister things really were. They had been called out to him multiple times in the week leading up to it hadn't they?

The entire structure seemingly had no issues picking up people for posting stuff online when needed? Again, this is what pisses people off. (This isn't saying that people shouldn't have punished, it's saying that the "funding cuts, no prison spaces" stuff doesn't seem to matter too much when it suits).
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,160
Captain Dart said:
Only public photo, really?
View attachment 40855View attachment 40856
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I’ve not seen any others have you??
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,161
Nick said:
Can you quote me saying "the press were reporting what the government were peddling"?
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You imply the press are reporting what the police and government are telling them to
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,162
Nick said:
It's hardly riled up and I can't remember saying anything about a deep state conspiracy, yeah there are people mentioning his dad and Starmer and all that but it's nothing I'd claim or mention as fact.

People were angry when it happened, can you really not see how it did anything but calm down any unrest by pushing him as a little choirboy after 3 kids had just been killed and many more attacked? It was painting his innocence from the start and the police knew from day one how sinister things really were. They had been called out to him multiple times in the week leading up to it hadn't they?

The entire structure seemingly had no issues picking up people for posting stuff online when needed? Again, this is what pisses people off. (This isn't saying that people shouldn't have punished, it's saying that the "funding cuts, no prison spaces" stuff doesn't seem to matter too much when it suits).
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Talk us through the rationale for painting him as an angel? Other than it makes a good tabloid story what else??
Police security services government??
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,163
Sky Blue Pete said:
Talk us through the rationale for painting him as an angel? Other than it makes a good tabloid story what else??
Police security services government??
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Because they wanted it to be as far from an Islamic attack as possible in the hope people wouldn't think it was and would pipe down?

Are you really that naive?

Starmer has just said this:

"Britain will rightly demand answers, and we will leave no stone unturned in that pursuit."

Do you believe that?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,164
Nick said:
Because they wanted it to be as far from an Islamic attack as possible in the hope people wouldn't think it was and would pipe down?

Are you really that naive?

Starmer has just said this:

"Britain will rightly demand answers, and we will leave no stone unturned in that pursuit."

Do you believe that?
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You really believe that it could be hidden!
Wtaf
How?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,165
PVA said:
I'm really not sure what you are moaning about.

Are you upset he wasn't photographed holding a knife or something?
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I assume there are other photos of him is the point. There is one video of him coming out the Tardis of course
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,166
Grendel said:
I assume there are other photos of him is the point. There is one video of him coming out the Tardis of course
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Why do you assume that?
Are you and Nick in agreement that the police and givenrmnet were hoping no one would notice he was black or maybe that there had been a murder at all ??
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,167
I assume the new photos of this scumbag won’t be printed anywhere tomorrow? We already have the choirboy photo after all, no need to upset the approved narrative.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,168
Nick said:
Because they wanted it to be as far from an Islamic attack as possible in the hope people wouldn't think it was and would pipe down?
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MI5 outwitted by DCI Karen of Special Facebook Division

No wonder Britain is going down the shitter
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,169
Sky Blue Pete said:
You really believe that it could be hidden!
Wtaf
How?
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That what could be hidden?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,170
Is wasn’t an Islamic attack? Why are we pretending it was and then pretending there was a cover up?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,171
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why do you assume that?
Are you and Nick in agreement that the police and givenrmnet were hoping no one would notice he was black or maybe that there had been a murder at all ??
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I have now idea what you are ranting on about. It’s rather like the picture of a smiling family man recently that was a woman beating gangster a policeman heroically dealt with
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,172
Grendel said:
I assume there are other photos of him is the point. There is one video of him coming out the Tardis of course
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Nearest I could find Google Image Result for https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kw85Seqk_n8/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLCQasSSGcJb4T2wTogTSuH8rPohhA
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,173
shmmeee said:
Is wasn’t an Islamic attack? Why are we pretending it was and then pretending there was a cover up?
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What was it then?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,174
wingy said:
Nearest I could find Google Image Result for https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kw85Seqk_n8/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLCQasSSGcJb4T2wTogTSuH8rPohhA
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I wasn’t joking

Children in Need video of Southport suspect Axel Rudakubana removed - BBC News

Axel Rudakubana, who is accused of murdering three girls this week, appeared in the advert age 11.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,175
Grendel said:
What was it then?
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A nutter with a knife.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,176
Grendel said:
What was it then?
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A horrific knife attack from a mentally ill kid obsessed with violence. Not every bad thing is brown people under the bed Grendel.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,177
torchomatic said:
A nutter with a knife.
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As was the Joe Cox murderer I assume?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,178
They also know he was obsessed with Hitler, Ghengis Khan and the IRA- but sure, focus solely on the Muslim angle.

He is a seriously disturbed psychopath who has a fascination with violence and weapons.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,179
shmmeee said:
A horrific knife attack from a mentally ill kid obsessed with violence. Not every bad thing is brown people under the bed Grendel.
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It seems we are now having a public inquiry - guess it’s a bit more important than what happened in Rochdale
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,180
Ring Of Steel said:
They also know he was obsessed with Hitler, Ghengis Khan and the IRA- but sure, focus solely on the Muslim angle.

He is a seriously disturbed psychopath who has a fascination with violence and weapons.
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No RoS the great detective duo Grendel and Nick know far more than the prosecutors of the case. They can smell a secret Muslim from 1000 yards. It was clearly the well worn terrorist tactic of leaving no message about your intentions whatsoever. That’s how you bring attention to your cause: by not talking about it at all.

4D chess mate. You wouldn’t understand the sneaky Muslims.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,181
Ring Of Steel said:
They also know he was obsessed with Hitler, Ghengis Khan and the IRA- but sure, focus solely on the Muslim angle.

He is a seriously disturbed psychopath who has a fascination with violence and weapons.
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It’s really odd you have no interest in politics but….
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,182
Grendel said:
I wasn’t joking

Children in Need video of Southport suspect Axel Rudakubana removed - BBC News

Axel Rudakubana, who is accused of murdering three girls this week, appeared in the advert age 11.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Just reading about this thing, found it enlightening especially the casting agency bit and the similarity of the event he turned up at?
Guess he thought he was going to be a star.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,183
Grendel said:
It’s really odd you have no interest in politics but….
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What does this murder have to do with politics?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,184
Grendel said:
As was the Joe Cox murderer I assume?
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I think it’s a little easier to ascribe political motivation to a murder when the murderer shouts out the name of a political party during the attack, and the victim is an MP.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2025
  • #3,185
Ring Of Steel said:
What does this murder have to do with politics?
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You have mentioned several political institutions in your post. You don’t know much about these things do you?
 
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