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Otis

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Even the BBC have said he is Rwandan. So not sure where the speculation is.

Southend I do know about and has been used as a dumping ground so not that surprising and it does have history.
I can't see that anywhere, the BBC saying he's Rwandan.

Where did you see that? I can only see them saying his parents are Rwandan.
 

Saddlebrains

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The police say EDL were involved.

I guess we just have no idea how many.

39 police officers injured is a hell of a lot. Only 6 arrests

Hope they nab more of the rioters, once they trawl through the video footage.


People correctly talking about misinformation.

A massive piece of misinformation however that the press are peddling is that the EDL were involved.

The EDL hasn't even existed for over a decade
 

clint van damme

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People correctly talking about misinformation.

A massive piece of misinformation however that the press are peddling is that the EDL were involved.

The EDL hasn't even existed for over a decade

The police have issued a statement saying they believe the EDL were involved.
Obviously 'believe' doesn't mean they think they definitely were.
 

Saddlebrains

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The police have issued a statement saying they believe the EDL were involved.
Obviously 'believe' doesn't mean they think they definitely were.


Very lazy from the police tbh

I hope I'm not sounding like GIMOC here, but it's very easy to say the EDL (who don't even exist) or 'far right' were involved, however when Muslims were rioting and setting fire to Leeds 2 weeks ago it was described as 'locals'

A lot said regarding 2 tier policing, but we certainly have a 2 teir press in this country now also
 

torchomatic

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Very lazy from the police tbh

I hope I'm not sounding like GIMOC here, but it's very easy to say the EDL (who don't even exist) or 'far right' were involved, however when Muslims were rioting and setting fire to Leeds 2 weeks ago it was described as 'locals'

A lot said regarding 2 tier policing, but we certainly have a 2 teir press in this country now also
I hope I'm not sounding like...it wasn't Muslims in Leeds two weeks ago.
 

Saddlebrains

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I hope I'm not sounding like...it wasn't Muslims in Leeds two weeks ago.

If I'm wrong on that then so be it and il of course retract

Still feel the press are culpable with stirring things up however, the way even a riot gets reported differently is strange for me
 

skybluetony176

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People correctly talking about misinformation.

A massive piece of misinformation however that the press are peddling is that the EDL were involved.

The EDL hasn't even existed for over a decade
Not sure that’s true either. They existed on mainstream platforms like facebook right up until 2019 when they bowed to pressure. Since then they’ve ran on platforms like GAB. They may not be in the mainstream or as organised as they once were but at the very least people still claim to be part of it and represent it.

Either way what happened last night fits their MO, hijack a cause as an excuse for violence and attack a mosque. Whoever they were last night they were scumbags taking a dump on the victims of an awful crime. They’re an embarrassment.
 

TomRad85

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Not sure that’s true either. They existed on mainstream platforms like facebook right up until 2019 when they bowed to pressure. Since then they’ve ran on platforms like GAB. They may not be in the mainstream or as organised as they once were but at the very least people still claim to be part of it and represent it.

Either way what happened last night fits their MO, hijack a cause as an excuse for violence and attack a mosque. Whoever they were last night they were scumbags taking a dump on the victims of an awful crime. They’re an embarrassment.
Good performance last night hey? What are your thoughts on the game?

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shmmeee

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Outright racists aside it feels like people talking past each other a lot.
Very lazy from the police tbh

I hope I'm not sounding like GIMOC here, but it's very easy to say the EDL (who don't even exist) or 'far right' were involved, however when Muslims were rioting and setting fire to Leeds 2 weeks ago it was described as 'locals'

A lot said regarding 2 tier policing, but we certainly have a 2 teir press in this country now also

Locals say it’s not locals but people who have come in. Whatever gay name they call themselves it’ll be the same twats.
 

torchomatic

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People correctly talking about misinformation.

A massive piece of misinformation however that the press are peddling is that the EDL were involved.

The EDL hasn't even existed for over a decade

Ironic. You talk about misinformation yet blamed Muslims for the riots in Leeds a couple of weeks back. Misinformation.

Misinformation is dangerous and helps to spread hate and fan the flames of hatred.

Maybe they should have just said "White British Christians" then rather than EDL?
 

torchomatic

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Outright racists aside it feels like people talking past each other a lot.


Locals say it’s not locals but people who have come in. Whatever gay name they call themselves it’ll be the same twats.

They play with semantics so they can back up their arguments whatever the outcome. It doesn''t matter what these right-wing scum label themselves as (or not), they're still right-wing scum. It has been widely acknowledged that far-right activists were promoting this protest online. A couple of days ago they were bleating about "the poor police" not being able to protect themselves at Manchester airport, yet given any excuse they hurl bricks, bottles and wheely bins at them.
 

torchomatic

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If I'm wrong on that then so be it and il of course retract

Still feel the press are culpable with stirring things up however, the way even a riot gets reported differently is strange for me
You are. Research and retract. I'm interested in why you think the press are culpable in stirring things up?
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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The rioters are no more Christian than the Dalai Lama. They are xenophobic, misinformed hooligans, end of story!
Attacking the mosque puts them on a par, for me, with the intelligence level of the pitchfork brigade who fire-bombed the house of a paediatrician a few years back, mistaking him for a paedophile!

Saying "the EDL doesn't exist" is like saying the IRA gave up their weapons when the Good Friday accord was signed. It may have changed its name, but it still has a following in some form (generally people who are too stupid to realise that it *doesn't* exist anymore).
 

Otis

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The rioters are no more Christian than the Dalai Lama. They are xenophobic, misinformed hooligans, end of story!
Attacking the mosque puts them on a par, for me, with the intelligence level of the pitchfork brigade who fire-bombed the house of a paediatrician a few years back, mistaking him for a paedophile!

Saying "the EDL doesn't exist" is like saying the IRA gave up their weapons when the Good Friday accord was signed. It may have changed its name, but it still has a following in some form (generally people who are too stupid to realise that it *doesn't* exist anymore).
Yup. The police probably said EDL because they weren't sure of the name of the day at that moment.

I believe what they are going with at the moment is Christians Unite Now To Survive

Also known as CUNTS
 
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One we can all agree on with no buts

Patrick Hurley said:
they were "utterly disrespecting the families of the dead and injured children, and utterly disrespecting the town".

For those people to attack the first responders who had been on the scene on Monday with bricks, Hurley says, "there is no way to describe this - other than to say it is utterly reprehensible".
 

shmmeee

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They play with semantics so they can back up their arguments whatever the outcome. It doesn''t matter what these right-wing scum label themselves as (or not), they're still right-wing scum. It has been widely acknowledged that far-right activists were promoting this protest online. A couple of days ago they were bleating about "the poor police" not being able to protect themselves at Manchester airport, yet given any excuse they hurl bricks, bottles and wheely bins at them.

He’s right tho: 2 tier policing in this country.

I haven’t seen a single bald Darren or man bag wearing roadman getting kicked in the head while tased.

Mores the pity.
 

Saddlebrains

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You are. Research and retract. I'm interested in why you think the press are culpable in stirring things up?


They always have been. Not just on the issue of culture.

We've all seen the difference in treatment of Meghan Markle compared to Kate Middleton for example.

Back in the Euros for example, the press couldn't wait for England fans to be involved in a ruckus to report 'England fans shame' or whatever, but when Albania and Turkey were kicking lumps out of each other in the stadium on live TV barely a mention.

Even with the climate change divide, those who believe in it those who don't, sensationalist articles like "Britain to roast in 28° heatdome" when wildfires etc from temperatures just a few hundred miles away in southern France for example from 40° temperatures barely get a look in

Papers taking a political view has always been wrong in my book also. Journalists shouldn't be telling someone how they should vote


Just my view 🤷
 

CCFCSteve

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I’ve steered clear of the thread as it’s veered so far away from the original topic, just devastated for the poor families

The riots/violence last night was totally unacceptable though. What is wrong with people ? What did it achieve apart from bring more fear and upset to the local community 🤷‍♂️

Ps I hope this was from last night
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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I’ve steered clear of the thread as it’s veered so far away from the original topic, just devastated for the poor families

The riots/violence last night was totally unacceptable though. What is wrong with people ? What did it achieve apart from bring more fear and upset to the local community 🤷‍♂️

Ps I hope this was from last night

How about insulting the memory of the poor children and those still fighting for their lives?

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not having a go at you, Steve.
 

skybluetony176

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Good performance last night hey? What are your thoughts on the game?

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I know you think you’re being clever but you’re coming across as a bit of a dick. Especially on this thread of all threads. Why don’t you keep your petty little obsession with me of this thread at least. Fishing for likes means nothing if you have to be a dick to do it.
 

TomRad85

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I know you think you’re being clever but you’re coming across as a bit of a dick. Especially on this thread of all threads. Why don’t you keep your petty little obsession with me of this thread at least. Fishing for likes means nothing if you have to be a dick to do it.
Yeh the thread was having a totally normal one before i took a gentle poke at you, you plum. You really need to log off here, log off Twitter and get out more. I dunno, watch some football or something, i hear its fun.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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How about insulting the memory of the poor children and those still fighting for their lives?

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not having a go at you, Steve.
The poor police officers who had to deal with the stabbings, some might never get over it, they are human beings after all with families of their own then get pelted with bricks. I just don't get the point of this.
 

skybluetony176

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Yeh the thread was having a totally normal one before i took a gentle poke at you, you plum. You really need to log off here, log off Twitter and get out more. I dunno, watch some football or something, i hear its fun.
I don’t have a twitter/x account and I watch plenty of football thanks. I’ll post on whatever thread I like thanks, it’s a free country. Given you’re the one who’s made stalking me a full time hobby it’s probably best you log off and find something else to do, like having a hard long think about your life and how you reached the point of being so obsessed with someone’s posting history on a forum. It’s pathetic.
 

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