Southport Stabbing (10 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.

People like you need a carer who manages your internet access. Any thicker and you’d set.

 

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[alexccfc99]

All went off in Hartlepool last night as well

 

[Otis]

notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.

The police have said so

The BBC have merely reported what the police have said.

 

[Otis]

notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.

I asked you, quite sincerely and have now checked myself, as to where this notion the guy is in his 30's has been reported.

I genuinely would like to know, because I can find nothing.

And on the other point, that of it being a conspiracy and the BBC hiding the truth and being biased .....if so, then, why, why, why would they report that the parents of the attacker are Rwandan?

It makes no sense. In saying they are Rwandan, doesn't that fuel some up even more in the notion that it was a migrant that did it?

 

[Ian1779]

Although it has widely been reported this scum is 17, doesn't mean he is, on certain other media sites saying more like in his 30s

no picture release why, to protect him or to cover up,

you could also blame the media for these protests what are happening because of there false and inaccurate information they are spouting.

and they wonder why the public are angry, yes the public, not the far right as the media would have you believe, just goes to show how out of touch with reality these in government are.

how can the families even begin to have closure with no release of picture, tell you why that is, he is not 17..

 

[Otis]

Might be worth checking the law.

He might yet still be named and I do actually think he will be, but as we have already had a completely false named banded about, I don't blame the pause before deciding.

 

[torchomatic]

Although it has widely been reported this scum is 17, doesn't mean he is, on certain other media sites saying more like in his 30s

no picture release why, to protect him or to cover up,

you could also blame the media for these protests what are happening because of there false and inaccurate information they are spouting.

and they wonder why the public are angry, yes the public, not the far right as the media would have you believe, just goes to show how out of touch with reality these in government are.

how can the families even begin to have closure with no release of picture, tell you why that is, he is not 17..

You're fucking thick, mate. An utter fool.

 

[torchomatic]

notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.

LOL, the irony in calling someone brainwashed. How old are you? If your answer is anything older than 12 then I don't believe you.

 

[Grendel]

There's a lot of pensioners who don't need it though. It needs streamlining.

I actually know a few pensioners and all but one said they don't need it.

We have to help the ones really struggling.

The policy will impact a lot who are struggling. It’s impossible to streamline through income which is why it’s a sledgehammer approach.

 

[torchomatic]

I asked you, quite sincerely and have now checked myself, as to where this notion the guy is in his 30's has been reported.

I genuinely would like to know, because I can find nothing.

And on the other point, that of it being a conspiracy and the BBC hiding the truth and being biased .....if so, then, why, why, why would they report that the parents of the attacker are Rwandan?

It makes no sense. In saying they are Rwandan, doesn't that fuel some up even more in the notion that it was a migrant that did it?

It's like Clint said in his post. This lot have a list. When something is disproved on their list they cross it off and move onto the next conspiracy theory. Sylus is the kind of fucking idiot that hangs on to every word from Robinson, Farage, Fox, Tate, etc.

It's really sad, but the fact this is all so dangerous, makes me dispise them rather than feel sorry for them.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Conspiracy shit to incite anger is fair game eh?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You're fucking thick, mate. An utter fool.

Racist and dangerous too.

This thread is an embarrassment.

 

[torchomatic]

Conspiracy shit to incite anger is fair game eh?

Seems fine on here. Join SBT and discuss your team selection for Saturday and spread racist conspiracy theories. All welcome.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Seems fine on here. Join SBT and discuss your team selection for Saturday and spread racist conspiracy theories. All welcome.

The likes of stylus and GIMOC are why people have gathered to riot, and this thread is as culpable for that as any.

Shame on them, it, and us for allowing it to stand.

 

[Otis]

Racist and dangerous too.

This thread is an embarrassment.

It's not the way it should have gone for sure, but I can't say I am surprised.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It's not the way it should have gone for sure, but I can't say I am surprised.

I'm ashamed to be part of this board. It's a disgrace.

 

[Otis]

The likes of stylus and GIMOC are why people have gathered to riot, and this thread is as culpable for that as any.

Shame on them, it, and us for allowing it to stand.

True

It's very concerning. It's the same fake news and lies Trump peddles to fire people up.

Wrong name, wrong information, wrong age, possibly even the wrong religion

 

[Otis]

I'm ashamed to be part of this board. It's a disgrace.

Ain't what it used to be.

Honestly thinking of just sticking to football threads in future.

Never put anyone on ignore before, but I am severely tempted.

 

[David O'Day]

I feel we may well be getting close to the earth is flat and the Democrats eat babies territory.

Would love to know who is saying he's in his 30's.

Same people who said he was a muslim who came on a small boat last year

Lying cunts

 

[PVA]

It's quite impressive to be so knowledgeable and clever to instantly know the name, age, immigration status and MI5 watchlist status of an attacker whilst also changing that information every 5 minutes.

Are brave Patriots r cleva.

 

[ccfctommy]

What?

Why would they say he is 17, if he's in his 30's?

Which certain media sites?

Only a couple of days ago, he was a migrant that only arrived here on a boat a year ago and was already on the MI5 watchlist.

Where are you getting your info from?

He read it on Facebook no doubt

 

[AOM]

notice you are so quick to believe he is 17, why is that ? because the BBC told you so, you really are brainwashed.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I'm ashamed to be part of this board. It's a disgrace.

Yes. Why is our moderator allowing it?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Yes. Why is our moderator allowing it?

I can only assume Boosh is trolling when they claim to be banned, because otherwise chatting shit about reality TV, calling people losers and making up football rumours is worse!

 

[Otis]

He read it on Facebook no doubt

Oh. He's convinced me then. .

BBC are part of the conspiracy! The police are part of the conspiracy, plus Sky News, ITV News, Al Jazeera, ABC, BBC, the Washington Post, Mirror, Sun, Guardian, Times etc.

They must all know this bloke IS in his 30's, but are just keeping it quiet.

 

[Grendel]

He is clearly 17 but I do think he should be named

 

[Grendel]

Yes. Why is our moderator allowing it?

Suppression of debate and opinion is not the correct approach

 

[Deleted member 5849]

He is clearly 17 but I do think he should be named

He will be soon!

It's backwards logic anyway - like being 17 excuses it so he needs to be older?!?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Suppression of debate and opinion is not the correct approach

You reckon all out racism, falsehoods and conspiracy theory nonsense is?

 

[Otis]

He is clearly 17 but I do think he should be named

I agree.

As has been said, some people will know exactly who he is anyway. They would know him.

I think he should be named

 

[Grendel]

You reckon all out racism, falsehoods and conspiracy theory nonsense is?

If its directed personally at individuals then no

If its generalised the views are still there if you see them or not and then there is an opportunity to debate it,

I have always said the BNP were bought down as they were allowed a voice and with a voice comes scrutiny.

The marginalisation of people with different views creates more problems not reducing them

 

[Deleted member 5849]

If its directed personally at individuals then no

If its generalised the views are still there if you see them or not and then there is an opportunity to debate it,

I have always said the BNP were bought down as they were allowed a voice and with a voice comes scrutiny.

The marginalisation of people with different views creates more problems not reducing them

What has actually happened however it's it's emboldened some to think they're right, and encouraged the impressionable to take on some of those views.

There's a difference between a different view and dangerous falsehoods and lies.

 

[AOM]

I agree.

As has been said, some people will know exactly who he is anyway. They would know him.

I think he should be named

I think he probably should too at this point. As you say, many will know who it is anyway and there has already been a few mistaken identities going around online which some will be stupid enough to act upon

 

[Otis]

If its directed personally at individuals then no

If its generalised the views are still there if you see them or not and then there is an opportunity to debate it,

I have always said the BNP were bought down as they were allowed a voice and with a voice comes scrutiny.

The marginalisation of people with different views creates more problems not reducing them

So tricky these days, because things have clearly changed with the onset of social media.

I have never known this level of misinformation out there now, before.

And one person can post something online. Another will take it as fact and they post it too and then when you hear that same thing from 20 different sources, you start to believe it to be true.

Deepfaking and photoshopping is a major problem as well. Just adds fuel to the fire and you can make anything false, seemingly appear true.

It can be very dangerous. As we have seen. It can result in false information, the wrong people being named and all the main facts about the case being wrong

By then it's too late, as everyone is already fired up.

 

[Grendel]

What has actually happened however it's it's emboldened some to think they're right, and encouraged the impressionable to take on some of those views.

There's a difference between a different view and dangerous falsehoods and lies.

I don't think anyone will be influenced on here. The views are still their views.

I have been labelled the biggest racist on the forum by a certain somebody. Don't agree but he won't change his opinion.